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Old 06-15-15, 12:23 PM
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San Francisco, The Embarcadero

Hi all,

I have been debating weather to post this or not. But i think i need to speak out as a fellow cycler and somebody who walks to work from the Ferry building up the Embarcadero in SF.

To all the Cyclists who use the side walk on the Embarcadero please think about what you are doing. I have been in and have seen so many close calls with cyclists and peds. I know why everybody uses the sidewalk and not the perfectly good bike lane and that is.....No Stop lights. On the sidewalk you can ride as fast as the pedestrian traffic allows you (many times faster). But Think really THINK!!!! How would you feel about yourself if your actions caused a child or one of the hundreds of tourists that come to our city harm? Please use the bike lanes, they are what we asked for after all.

If we want/ask/demand respect and our place on the streets from motorist then, we need to live up to the law and follow it. I mean do we respect any motorist who cuts us off or does not give us our legal right of way?

I'm asking everybody to take the time and do what is right, not what is eaisiest. Thank you for your time reading this.
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Old 06-15-15, 12:25 PM
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Old 06-15-15, 12:28 PM
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Old 06-15-15, 02:00 PM
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Maybe I'm misinterpreting your post as saying bikes shouldn't be ridden on the embarcadero promenade. While of course users should be courteous bikes are allowed there.

"The Promenade is a multiuse pathway for maritime functions, vehicle and pedestrian access to piers, recreation, and bicycle transportation"
San Francisco Port Department : Embarcadero Promenade

"Why a bikeway?Isnít there already a green bicycle lane?
The existing conditions include a narrow on-street bike lane for portions of the Embarcadero in each direction as well as a mixed-use Promenade shared between people walking and biking"
https://www.sfbike.org/our-work/stre...e-embarcadero/
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Old 06-15-15, 02:48 PM
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You're never going to change people's behavior by complaining about it, as I'm sure you already know. People who ride on the sidewalk even in the presence of an on-street bike lane are probably doing so because they're afraid of riding in the street. Your efforts would be more productive if you focused on removing the factors, both in the built environment and in the cultural milieu, that cause people to fear using the bike infrastructure.
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Old 06-15-15, 03:12 PM
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Okay well that is good to know. I didn't know that bikes were allowed with a bike lane so close. Rest of what i said still stands. Seems to me that we should still avail ourselves of the bike lane as the safe alternative. It's 3 feet away with no pedestrians to worry about.




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Maybe I'm misinterpreting your post as saying bikes shouldn't be ridden on the embarcadero promenade. While of course users should be courteous bikes are allowed there.

"The Promenade is a multiuse pathway for maritime functions, vehicle and pedestrian access to piers, recreation, and bicycle transportation"
San Francisco Port Department : Embarcadero Promenade

"Why a bikeway?Isnít there already a green bicycle lane?
The existing conditions include a narrow on-street bike lane for portions of the Embarcadero in each direction as well as a mixed-use Promenade shared between people walking and biking"
https://www.sfbike.org/our-work/stre...e-embarcadero/
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Old 06-15-15, 03:59 PM
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meh I prefer to ride in the bike lane if other riders have a different preference for that stretch that's okay too. Doesn't matter if a knucklehead's riding in the bike lane or the promenade, still a knucklehead.
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Okay well that is good to know. I didn't know that bikes were allowed with a bike lane so close. Rest of what i said still stands. Seems to me that we should still avail ourselves of the bike lane as the safe alternative. It's 3 feet away with no pedestrians to worry about.
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Old 06-15-15, 05:32 PM
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I bike/run the Embarcadero all the time, pretty much everyday...far too often cyclists treat that stretch as their own personal stretch of TT road. It's pretty pathetic.
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Having ridden both on the promenade and the bike lane, here is the reason I prefer to go slowly on the promenade around the Ferry Building versus using the bike lane: cars, taxis, ubers, buses, clueless tourists taking pictures all pull over around the Ferry building and they block the bike line. Meaning instead of a semi-safe lane we have to veer into the traffic to avoid the car sitting in the bike lane. So the choice is between going slow and dodging people or dodging faster moving and heavier cars in traffic. I think the real complaint is with those who block the bike lanes. If they were open I bet more people would use them. Overall it is a congested area, so everyone, bikers and walkers need to slow down and pay attention.
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I was waiting to catch a ferry to Alcatraz and watched the bike rentals for a little bit. It was scary seeing some of the noobs getting on tandems and heading straight towards clueless crowds. You may be preaching to the choir here...
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