Long Time Forum Member gw_12 Injured in Crash
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Long Time Forum Member gw_12 Injured in Crash
I wasn't with him, this is from his report when I spoke to him today.
Great guy, and super strong rider, gw_12 crashed yesterday.
He hit a shade obscured tree root/raised asphalt hump on the Iron Horse trail.
He went over the bars and landed on his hip with a loud "pop."
Result: broken pelvis at the socket, and broken femur at the ball.
He will have surgery soon to repair the damage and won't walk for a couple months.
Please send him your thoughts, love and prayers.
He is one of the best of the best, as a man, a cyclist, and a friend.
Great guy, and super strong rider, gw_12 crashed yesterday.
He hit a shade obscured tree root/raised asphalt hump on the Iron Horse trail.
He went over the bars and landed on his hip with a loud "pop."
Result: broken pelvis at the socket, and broken femur at the ball.
He will have surgery soon to repair the damage and won't walk for a couple months.
Please send him your thoughts, love and prayers.
He is one of the best of the best, as a man, a cyclist, and a friend.
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Healing vibes going out. Hope you beat the doctors' time estimates. If you want someone slow to ride with when you get back on the bike, gw_12, I'm your guy. Lanceoldstrong knows how to reach me.
I've gone down because of an object hidden just inside the shade on an alternating sun/shade/sun/shade road. As was said by atg the end on roll call in "Hill Street Blues": "Let's be careful out there."
I've gone down because of an object hidden just inside the shade on an alternating sun/shade/sun/shade road. As was said by atg the end on roll call in "Hill Street Blues": "Let's be careful out there."
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Heal up My friend
I am so sorry to hear about this unfortunate crash. I wish you well and a speedy recovery.
If you need anything you can reach out to me. I have been down this road before as you know. Take your time and do the PT is the best thing for getting back on the bike.
If you need anything you can reach out to me. I have been down this road before as you know. Take your time and do the PT is the best thing for getting back on the bike.
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Sorry to hear of the crash and hope his surgery goes well and leads to a complete recovery. Has the location of the crash been reported to the East Bay Regional Park District so that hopefully they can smooth that trail hazard? In the interim a little bright paint could be useful in warning other cyclists. (Did that recently on the Iron Horse in San Ramon just south of Alcosta for the roots there.)
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Crash location
sorry about your friend, hope he heals up soon. Would you care to share the location? I for one would be interested for my own safety. Re paint: some one recently outlined with white a couple big dips near Walden Park in WC. Very helpful. Written sitting on the bench where IHT dips under Willow Pass in Concord. It'l be hot soon!
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Wishing your friend a speedy recovery. Active people generally take lesser time to heal than the doctor's estimates.
I encountered quite a few raised asphalt bumps on the Nashua River Rail Trail here yesterday, but managed to stay upright, probably due to the 32mm tires.
I encountered quite a few raised asphalt bumps on the Nashua River Rail Trail here yesterday, but managed to stay upright, probably due to the 32mm tires.
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Crushed to hear this. All the best Glenn. God Speed on recovery and rehab. Daniel and I will keep in contact and want to help in any and all ways.
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Scary and painful. Broken pelvis is painful, although Glen's is clearly a lot worse than mine.
Hey, did you see Dr. Coufal in the ER? He's treated more than one of us in the BF broken bone club.
Hey, did you see Dr. Coufal in the ER? He's treated more than one of us in the BF broken bone club.
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I am so sorry to read this. I know healing is a long slow process. I wish you the best.
And, as Rich suggested, do let us know when you're ready for your maiden relaunch. You came to mine after I was well enough to ride again, and it meant a lot.
Peace be with you. Along with effective healing.
I am so sorry to read this. I know healing is a long slow process. I wish you the best.
And, as Rich suggested, do let us know when you're ready for your maiden relaunch. You came to mine after I was well enough to ride again, and it meant a lot.
Peace be with you. Along with effective healing.
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Always sorry to hear about crashes like this. Especially because the outcome was far worse than average. Best wishes for a speedy and FULL recovery.
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Awful to hear. I can't imagine the recovery time let alone the pain of the injury. I wish all the best in the recovery process, hopefully it is sooner rather than later.
Many times I hit shade obscured ruts and potholes, those damn things always seem to lurk in places like that.
Many times I hit shade obscured ruts and potholes, those damn things always seem to lurk in places like that.
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sorry to hear this...healing mojo sent.
Further reason to hate all things Iron Horse Trail.
Further reason to hate all things Iron Horse Trail.
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Best wishes for a full recovery.
If you have nothing to do but watch TdF, you might call a PI attorney. If the bump is big enough and neglected there may be a claim against WC or EBRP. It's a shame, but that seems to be the remedy to focus attention on the problems areas with that trail, some of the really bad spots along IHT in WC and Concord seem to just get worse.
My friend broke his hip riding with me, it's been a few years but he is a regular rider these days; patience is rewarded.
"between the Las Lomas High School sports fields and Rudgear Road". I keep telling my spouse I hate, hate, hate riding IHT. Wish there was a better way of getting around through the downtown WC area.
If you have nothing to do but watch TdF, you might call a PI attorney. If the bump is big enough and neglected there may be a claim against WC or EBRP. It's a shame, but that seems to be the remedy to focus attention on the problems areas with that trail, some of the really bad spots along IHT in WC and Concord seem to just get worse.
My friend broke his hip riding with me, it's been a few years but he is a regular rider these days; patience is rewarded.
"between the Las Lomas High School sports fields and Rudgear Road". I keep telling my spouse I hate, hate, hate riding IHT. Wish there was a better way of getting around through the downtown WC area.
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Filing such a claim is a prerequisite to any court action. By law in California, you cannot file a tort case against a public entity unless you have first brought that claim against the public entity(ies) and it/they tell you to pound sand - and they will. The deadline for filing such a claim 3 to 6 months, if I recall correctly (do not quote me on this - this is from memory and I did not look it up). That is much, much shorter than the deadline for filing a lawsuit. But if you don't file the claim, your lawsuit will be tossed. That much I know for certain.
Gt well; that is your main focus. But do not neglect your legal rights here.
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Maybe because I grew up and started cycling in an area with trolley tracks, potholes, uneven pavement, bridge expansion joints, and (back then) parallel sewer grates. That was on the good roads. So I'm a bit baffled by the "blame the pavement" attitude.
Yes, there was a root and a ripple, but it's not like it reached out and grabbed anyone. It was there, and an attentive rider watching where he was going would have seen it and been ready to handle it safely.
I don't blame the victim here, because crap happens to the best of us, but I don't get blaming anyone else either.
Yes, there was a root and a ripple, but it's not like it reached out and grabbed anyone. It was there, and an attentive rider watching where he was going would have seen it and been ready to handle it safely.
I don't blame the victim here, because crap happens to the best of us, but I don't get blaming anyone else either.
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The thing is, if we want these things fixed, and I think we do, you need to get the attention of the public agency first. They notice money.
And really, that path sucks. To call something a bike path, with the relative safety that implies, an dthen let it go to hell... that's just wrong. It's like they are tricking you into riding it.
And really, that path sucks. To call something a bike path, with the relative safety that implies, an dthen let it go to hell... that's just wrong. It's like they are tricking you into riding it.
Maybe because I grew up and started cycling in an area with trolley tracks, potholes, uneven pavement, bridge expansion joints, and (back then) parallel sewer grates. That was on the good roads. So I'm a bit baffled by the "blame the pavement" attitude.
Yes, there was a root and a ripple, but it's not like it reached out and grabbed anyone. It was there, and an attentive rider watching where he was going would have seen it and been ready to handle it safely.
I don't blame the victim here, because crap happens to the best of us, but I don't get blaming anyone else either.
Yes, there was a root and a ripple, but it's not like it reached out and grabbed anyone. It was there, and an attentive rider watching where he was going would have seen it and been ready to handle it safely.
I don't blame the victim here, because crap happens to the best of us, but I don't get blaming anyone else either.
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The thing is, if we want these things fixed, and I think we do, you need to get the attention of the public agency first. They notice money.
And really, that path sucks. To call something a bike path, with the relative safety that implies, an dthen let it go to hell... that's just wrong. It's like they are tricking you into riding it.
And really, that path sucks. To call something a bike path, with the relative safety that implies, an dthen let it go to hell... that's just wrong. It's like they are tricking you into riding it.
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.... Of course that should not relieve the user of ALL responsibility, but that path has been on a course of deterioration for decades. Even if you ride it every day, there is no way to memorize every problem area, and even if you are paying attention, you may see one bad area and while you are avoiding that one, another one will pop up right in front of you. The bottom line is that path is in TERRIBLE condition, and it's been that way for a very long time. .....
This might be different if a novice, who we don't expect to know better, gets hurt, but it'll be hard to rally jury sympathy, when the victim" is knowledgeable and experienced, and aware of the path's condition.
I'm all for pressing agencies to maintain paths under their jurisdiction, but am not convinced this is the right approach. They may counter with reduced speed limits "in the name of safety", while they postpone the repairs or "study" the problem.
Tactics aside, I also see a certain hypocrisy in here. When cyclists are injured by motorists, (even when the cyclist is clearly in the wrong) there's all sorts of noise about what the motorist could or should have done. But when something like this happens, it's blame the road. So, a question---- to what extent are we responsible for our own safety?
To be clear, none of this is to assign blame to the rider here. Even with care stuff happens because we're riding an inherently unstable two wheeled vehicle. Likewise, what I say about a potential lawsuit doesn't attach to him either because he hasn't (so far as I know) made any attempt to blame anyone else. That's coming from other folks here on BF.
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Update: One Surgery done, front side of hip socket bolted back together with titanium upgrades. It went well.
Surgery #2 tomorrow, to fix the back side of the hip socket. Expect some more titanium upgrades.
Good news: upon further review the ball of the femur has no break.
... and now for a little levity, this keeps going through my mind:
Surgery #2 tomorrow, to fix the back side of the hip socket. Expect some more titanium upgrades.
Good news: upon further review the ball of the femur has no break.
... and now for a little levity, this keeps going through my mind:
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Update: One Surgery done, front side of hip socket bolted back together with titanium upgrades. It went well.
Surgery #2 tomorrow, to fix the back side of the hip socket. Expect some more titanium upgrades.
Good news: upon further review the ball of the femur has no break.
... and now for a little levity, this keeps going through my mind: For goodness sake, I got the hippy hippy shakes.
Surgery #2 tomorrow, to fix the back side of the hip socket. Expect some more titanium upgrades.
Good news: upon further review the ball of the femur has no break.
... and now for a little levity, this keeps going through my mind: For goodness sake, I got the hippy hippy shakes.
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PROKOP v. CITY OF LOS ANGELES | FindLaw
Another reason for riding on roadways rather than paths.
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Unfortunately I believe the precedent set by the Prokop v. LA decision would preclude this since the court granted public entities immunity from liability regarding bike paths and trails.
PROKOP v. CITY OF LOS ANGELES | FindLaw
Another reason for riding on roadways rather than paths.
PROKOP v. CITY OF LOS ANGELES | FindLaw
Another reason for riding on roadways rather than paths.