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Old 04-15-23, 10:12 AM
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Long continuous climb routes?

I did a great 30 mile ride yesterday that featured a 12 mile continuous climb of over 3700í. Can anyone tell me of any climbs exceeding that in the N Ca area? Iím only interested in pure continuous climbs that at no point descend even briefly.

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There is a website devoted to answering this question: https://pjammcycling.com
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Does Oregon count?

I'm not sure about the continuous, not even a brief reprieve.

Note, much of Crater Lake will be snowed in this time of year with NO access other than using skies.

Here is the "What Goes Up Must Come Down" ride. You can think of it backwards if you wish.

https://www.strava.com/activities/718263879

From Steamboat Oregon, Elevation: 1,155 feet up to Crater Lake, Elevation: 7,731 feet. Covering about a Metric Century.

While not completely monotonous, it is pretty unrelenting.

A little earlier in that ride, the road between Culp Creek Oregon to Steamboat Oregon was pretty intense, and almost devoid of cars. Combine these two segments.

https://www.strava.com/segments/28476750
https://www.strava.com/segments/1764946

The climb was most intense on the north side of the hill (loaded touring). But, longer and far more gradual on the south side of the hill.

The McKenzie Pass, HWY 242 is pretty good. Much longer and steeper from the West side than the East side. It is closed to all traffic this time of year, but bikes may be able to get through. It is probably best to head up there late May or early June after a long sunny week, especially with all the rain and snow we've gotten this year. But, get up there before it is opened to traffic.

https://www.strava.com/segments/4296595

Not super steep, but about 20 miles of climbing.
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Oh, if you get tired of RAINY CALIFORNIA, I've heard that Mauna Kea, Hawaii is supposed to be quite spectacular.
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Check out Mt Ashland. I don't know if I've seen a profile but Ashland to the ski area is 5000' and there's another 1000' I haven't seen but I'm pretty certain you won't see any respite there. I did it 11 years ago for Cycle Oregon and remember the climb from the lower road to the ski area being a considerably longer and higher Mt Diablo. (Granted, my analog and fully biological "computer" might have had its setting warped by the 10,000' and 5600' days preceding that climb. The 10,000' number was a mistake. I accidentally rode down the North Entrance from Crater Lake and had to ride back up.)
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Oh, if you get tired of RAINY CALIFORNIA, I've heard that Mauna Kea, Hawaii is supposed to be quite spectacular.
Haleakala on Maui, too.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
Another fantastic graphic from DiabloScott.

Note that South Gate on Diablo has an ever-so-brief slight descent in the Rock City. It is really short, but it is there and it might disqualify South Gate from your consideration. North Gate has no such descent, and neither does Summit Road.

I'd suggest Mt Hamilton (~20 miles from bottom to top) but it has two descents that seem short on the way up to the observatory but seem unpleasantly long as ascents on your way back.

If you like hair shirts, mortification of the flesh and that sort of thing, you might try the east side of Patterson Pass Road (going from Tracy to Livermore). I don't think it is 10 miles long, but it does not have descents. at least not until you reach the top. What it does have is a 13% or so pitch to the Mother of All False Summits (this is not an exaggeration) from which you get a soul-crushing view of the actual summit and the ~20% stairsteps to it. For real fun, do it in the late afternoon in August, when it is 100* out (there's no shade) and the afternoon wind is howling over the pass and into your face.
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
If you like hair shirts, mortification of the flesh and that sort of thing, you might try the east side of Patterson Pass Road (going from Tracy to Livermore). I don't think it is 10 miles long, but it does not have descents. at least not until you reach the top. What it does have is a 13% or so pitch to the Mother of All False Summits (this is not an exaggeration) from which you get a soul-crushing view of the actual summit and the ~20% stairsteps to it. For real fun, do it in the late afternoon in August, when it is 100* out (there's no shade) and the afternoon wind is howling over the pass and into your face.
Thanks for the nostalgia; I grew up in Tracy, directly east of Corral Hollow Rd. I remember the wind; the only time it wasn't windy it was 110F.
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer
Another fantastic graphic from DiabloScott.

Note that South Gate on Diablo has an ever-so-brief slight descent in the Rock City. It is really short, but it is there and it might disqualify South Gate from your consideration. North Gate has no such descent, and neither does Summit Road.

I'd suggest Mt Hamilton (~20 miles from bottom to top) but it has two descents that seem short on the way up to the observatory but seem unpleasantly long as ascents on your way back.

If you like hair shirts, mortification of the flesh and that sort of thing, you might try the east side of Patterson Pass Road (going from Tracy to Livermore). I don't think it is 10 miles long, but it does not have descents. at least not until you reach the top. What it does have is a 13% or so pitch to the Mother of All False Summits (this is not an exaggeration) from which you get a soul-crushing view of the actual summit and the ~20% stairsteps to it. For real fun, do it in the late afternoon in August, when it is 100* out (there's no shade) and the afternoon wind is howling over the pass and into your face.
The east side of Patterson Pass is indeed much less than 10 miles, more like 5 miles from the substation.

I have made the mistake of doing it on a 100 degree day, and also done it while the wind was howling over the pass and into my face so strong that gusts brought my already slow speed to a virtual stop, but I haven't experienced both at the same time. If there is much breeze on a 100 degree day, in my experience it is more often than not coming out of the east, so giving a slight boost up the hill. Not that it is very much help. When I'm stupid enough to be there on a 100 degree day, I at least am smart enough to have enough water to occasionally douse myself a little. I have told people complaining about the howling wind in 80 degree weather to be happy about the wind, because otherwise it would be 100 degrees.

I went down the east side a handful of times before I ever went up it. My first time up the east side I was on a group ride doing a counterclockwise loop going Livermore to Tracy via Corral Hollow and back via Patterson Pass. I made the mistake of trying this when I was just getting back in shape after being off the bike with a broken hand. As I was struggling to get to the Mother of All False Summits, the group leader "encouraged" me by pointing out it was only 1/4 mile to the summit. The leader questioned my assertion that it was a false summit. I assured him I had been down that way enough to know I was correct, he still wasn't quite believing me, and he sheepishly apologized when we got there and looked ahead to what we had left. I felt a little better when another rider in our group up ahead was walking the last pitch, so when I caught up, I did the same, but I have not walked it since.

My dim recollection is that sometime in the past, DiabloScott has shown us the profiles of east side of Patterson Pass compared to Diablo from the junction to the summit, and Diablo is a little worse, but I could be wrong. Diablo junction to summit generally feels worse to me, mostly because I've already gone up either North Gate or South Gate, but when the wind is really howling from the west over Patterson, that last pitch feels worse than the wall at Diablo.
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Originally Posted by blt
The east side of Patterson Pass is indeed much less than 10 miles, more like 5 miles from the substation.

I have made the mistake of doing it on a 100 degree day, and also done it while the wind was howling over the pass and into my face so strong that gusts brought my already slow speed to a virtual stop, but I haven't experienced both at the same time. If there is much breeze on a 100 degree day, in my experience it is more often than not coming out of the east, so giving a slight boost up the hill. Not that it is very much help. When I'm stupid enough to be there on a 100 degree day, I at least am smart enough to have enough water to occasionally douse myself a little. I have told people complaining about the howling wind in 80 degree weather to be happy about the wind, because otherwise it would be 100 degrees.

I went down the east side a handful of times before I ever went up it. My first time up the east side I was on a group ride doing a counterclockwise loop going Livermore to Tracy via Corral Hollow and back via Patterson Pass. I made the mistake of trying this when I was just getting back in shape after being off the bike with a broken hand. As I was struggling to get to the Mother of All False Summits, the group leader "encouraged" me by pointing out it was only 1/4 mile to the summit. The leader questioned my assertion that it was a false summit. I assured him I had been down that way enough to know I was correct, he still wasn't quite believing me, and he sheepishly apologized when we got there and looked ahead to what we had left. I felt a little better when another rider in our group up ahead was walking the last pitch, so when I caught up, I did the same, but I have not walked it since.

My dim recollection is that sometime in the past, DiabloScott has shown us the profiles of east side of Patterson Pass compared to Diablo from the junction to the summit, and Diablo is a little worse, but I could be wrong. Diablo junction to summit generally feels worse to me, mostly because I've already gone up either North Gate or South Gate, but when the wind is really howling from the west over Patterson, that last pitch feels worse than the wall at Diablo.
Yeah, you're right about the wind. Out of the west, it's coming from the ocean and, although warm by the time it gets to Livermore (where I grew up) and/or the Central Valley, it doesn't go with real scorching temps. Heck, that's the breeze that makes most nights bearable in Livermore, Tracy, Stockton and Sacto. (Redding and Bakersfield usually miss out on any cooling effect, though). Out of the east or northeast, though, it is coming downslope which makes it "heat by compression" (thus sayeth the TV weather folks), not to mention it is hot to start with because it is coming from further inland where it is also hot. When there is no wind and no clouds, it's just effin' hot. I worked on a landscaping crew (installing, not maintaining) in the Livermore/Pleasanton summer. It inspired me to go to college and not have to swing a pick in the heat (or cold, or rain, or wind, or fog).

I'm so glad I live in Berkeley now. I've become a weather wimp, without regret or apology.

BTW, referring to climbing the east side of Patterson Pass, you could have just said "I made the mistake of doing it" and stopped there. It almost doesn't matter what the weather is - it's a tough climb and the Mother of All False Summits is a soul-crusher even if you know it is coming. More so if you don't know it's coming, but still . . . .
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Aahh, nostalgia. I rode it once long ago, with a buddy who had read about the ride and planned our route. We had the full blast wind but only moderate 80deg heat.

I think my "I can make it, I'm going to make it!" had started to be out loud instead of just internal, when my friend says "I wonder if this is the false summit?"
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Originally Posted by Tomm Willians
I did a great 30 mile ride yesterday that featured a 12 mile continuous climb of over 3700í. Can anyone tell me of any climbs exceeding that in the N Ca area? Iím only interested in pure continuous climbs that at no point descend even briefly.

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have a strava route for this?
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[QUOTE=sean.hwy;22907798]have a strava route for this?[/https://strava.app.link/WMWNE20yfAb

There you go !
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[QUOTE=Tomm Willians;22907913]
Originally Posted by sean.hwy
have a strava route for this?[/https://strava.app.link/WMWNE20yfAb

There you go !
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https://www.strava.com/segments/6893019


Full Toomes Climb

  • Distance11.96mi
  • Elevation Gain3,927ft
  • Avg Grade5.9%
  • Lowest Elev1,031ft
  • Highest Elev4,781ft
  • Elev Difference3,750ft


that looks painful
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There are probably plenty of railroad grades that climb like that in the coast range and the Sierras. Maybe not all of them bicycle friendly. Kingsbury Grade from State Line to Carson City is the one that comes first to mind
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ok, from the Foothill park and ride to the top of Tramway is 9.3 miles and 2900+ feet. Also, high altitude! Probably terrifying, it's a big road
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