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Old 02-25-08, 01:17 PM
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BF Other Ride - Saturday, 3/1

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Gee, a hundred and twenty miles, eight thousand feet of climbing, and a start time of seven in the morning, a two-hour drive away from my house? I'll have to consult with the Ouija board and the Magic 8-Ball on this one...
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When: Saturday, March 1, 9 AM
Where: Pleasant Hill BART Station
1365 Treat Blvd.
Walnut Creek, CA 94597
Meet at the south east corner, along Treat Blvd.
What: No-drop, social ride
Route: Martinez - 3 Bears
Mileage: 54
Climbing: 4200 ft

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Originally Posted by gpelpel
This ride includes most of the North Loop of the Grizzly Peak Century being held on May 4.
It may be started in Orinda (BART), Concord (BART), or Martinez (AmTrak). The ride is very scenic and rural for the most part except the smelly Rodeo part that goes through the refineries.

The Alhambra Valley is a long, steady, but not steep uphill that finishes with a steeper section at Pig Farm Hill. The descent that follows is short and fast, that's where I have established my fastest speed on a bike so far (49.5mph). The Bears are not steep, Mama is the steepest but only half a mile long, Baby is very short, Papa is a long and steady grind.
Then it's mostly rollers along San Pablo Reservoir followed by a short climb out of El Sobrante and flatter terrain and rollers through Pinole and Hercules. The pavement though Rodeo is famously awful but seemed to be worked on during last year Grizzly Peak ride. Thankfully it's not long. The ugliest and smelly part of the ride then leads through the refineries, not long either. Once past them the ride along the north bay is beautiful with a couple of hills and then there's the CLIMB, McEwen Road is not too long (1.5 mile) but steep. I read that it was one of Greg Lemond's favorite training climb in the Bay Area. The key is too find a comfortable pace and try to summit without stopping, the toughest part is at the beginning of the climb then the grade eases. The reward is the long descent that follows on Franklin Canyon Road.

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Originally Posted by msincredible
Hey if you're down I'll meet you somewhere near a BART station for a shorter ride that starts later instead.
Hmm, now that could motivate me to get off my arse. Whereabouts, whenabouts, and howabouts?
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Originally Posted by x136
Hmm, now that could motivate me to get off my arse. Whereabouts, whenabouts, and howabouts?
Well the only place I really know off of BART (besides SF) is the Berkeley hills, but I'm also game for going out to Pittsburgh or Dublin/Pleasanton if that works better and you know any good routes. I think I could do either Saturday or Sunday.

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Haha, I just re-read this and realized it sounded kind of bad
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Originally Posted by msincredible
Well the only place I really know off of BART (besides SF) is the Berkeley hills, but I'm also game for going out to Pittsburgh or Dublin/Pleasanton if that works better and you know any good routes. I think I could do either Saturday or Sunday.
Why don't you guys give the Diablo - Morgan Territory route a try?

Here's a route https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...rgan-Territory
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Originally Posted by msincredible
Well the only place I really know off of BART (besides SF) is the Berkeley hills, but I'm also game for going out to Pittsburgh or Dublin/Pleasanton if that works better and you know any good routes. I think I could do either Saturday or Sunday.
I barely know any routes around here, let alone in the Bay area. So I think what's convenient for you goes. I could probably drive directly to the BART station, if that helps.

Either Saturday or Sunday works for me, with a slight preference toward Sunday.

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Why don't you guys give the Diablo - Morgan Territory route a try?
You're a funny, funny guy.
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Originally Posted by x136
I barely know any routes around here, let alone in the Bay area. So I think what's convenient for you goes. I could probably drive directly to the BART station, if that helps.

Either Saturday or Sunday works for me, with a slight preference toward Sunday.

You're a funny, funny guy.
Do I look like I'm kidding?

I'm serious. Hell, I'll go with you guys. I've been itching for a ride.
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Originally Posted by mtnwalker
Do I look like I'm kidding?
The alternative is that you want me dead. I was hoping it was the kidding part...
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Originally Posted by x136
The alternative is that you want me dead. I was hoping it was the kidding part...
I don't want you dead. Just near death.

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Ok, X, here is a "flatter" and shorter that will take you from Pittsburgh to some very scenic areas in the Antioch area.

https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...rgh-to-Antioch
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Originally Posted by mtnwalker
Ok, X, here is a "flatter" and shorter that will take you from Pittsburgh to some very scenic areas in the Antioch area.

https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...rgh-to-Antioch
That looks like a good option, thanks! Are you joining us? Do you have a preference for Saturday or Sunday?
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Yeah, that one looks a bit more doable than Diablo to this Inhabitor of Flat Lands.
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Here's another very scenic and enjoyable east bay ride, that can be easily modified to start at the Martinez Amtrak station:

https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...ckett-To-rodeo
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Originally Posted by msincredible
That looks like a good option, thanks! Are you joining us? Do you have a preference for Saturday or Sunday?
I'm in for a Saturday, weather permitting. Bigbossman's route looks good too and shorter.

Which one? Time and place?
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Originally Posted by mtnwalker
I'm in for a Saturday, weather permitting. Bigbossman's route looks good too and shorter.

Which one? Time and place?

You guys need to start a new thread for this ride....
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Originally Posted by bigbossman
Here's another very scenic and enjoyable east bay ride, that can be easily modified to start at the Martinez Amtrak station:
That looks nice as well.

By the way, Bikely's KML download plus Google Earth's "Tour" function make for really neat video tours.

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You guys need to start a new thread for this ride....
Whatever do you mean?
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Originally Posted by x136

Whatever do you mean?
Wait a sec... did a new thread happen retroactively? Is that possible?

Anyway, I need a ride on Saturday, and from Antioch i don't need a 2 hour drive to start.
So, I'm keeping an eye on this one.

I'd do some flavor of Diablo, or that route out past Port Costa (though teh traffic in some of those areas looks frightening) or maybe something else. The idea of going up Marsh Creek road with all the crazy drivers concerns me, but if you all will block for me.....
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I'd be down for a sunday ride. it would have to start near a train station though.
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The weather report was for lightning and gale force winds in the east bay through the weekend! They say the San Mateo coast is supposed to be some of the best weather this century! It's really amazing the micro climates in the bay area... I also heard that they'll be a half off cost for everything on route 1 for cyclists! I'm sure glad I picked Alan's ride
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Oh I heard wild mountian lions spotted in the Morgan Territories!
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Why don't you guys do this ride on Saturday, then join us on Sunday along the Coast?
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Originally Posted by SesameCrunch
Why don't you guys do this ride on Saturday, then join us on Sunday along the Coast?
Yeah then I can do the Sat ride maybe if the weathers good.. I'll tell the wife I have a buisness meeting on Sat
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Ohhh, I had an idea. I've been hearing a lot about 3 Bears in the Martinez area.
Then I saw Bigbossman's route and I figured, why not put the two together for a nice longish route with some respectable climbing.

So how about this route https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...-Crocket-Rodeo
either on Saturday or Sunday.

X, Ms I? Anyone?
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Originally Posted by mtnwalker
Ohhh, I had an idea. I've been hearing a lot about 3 Bears in the Martinez area.
Then I saw Bigbossman's route and I figured, why not put the two together for a nice longish route with some respectable climbing.

So how about this route https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path...-Crocket-Rodeo
either on Saturday or Sunday.

X, Ms I? Anyone?
That looks like a good option. I looked on a map and it is a short ride (~ 4 miles) from the Concord BART station to either the Glacier / Muir intersection or Glacier / Center intersection on your route. Both look like they have parking lots, is either one a good place to meet?

Seems like right now there are more votes for Saturday.

When's a good time for people? 9? 10?
I'd prefer no later than 10 myself.
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That's real close to me. How hilly is the route? I'm carrying about 15lb more than I did last year.
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Go to the bikely page, then click on "Show" > "Elevation Profile".

Or I'll try to attach a screenshot.
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