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Old 02-11-09, 06:48 PM
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Tour of California, rain or shine?

Whose smart idea was it to have a major bicycle race in the middle of the California rainy season. The racers will be there, but will any spectators go out to watch?

The National Weather Service has posted a weather hazard warning for San Francisco for next week, including heavy rain, thunderstorms, hail, flooding, and high surf along Hwy 1. We're going to get more showers Thursday and Friday, then a serious storm starts on Saturday with a possibility of 1.5 inches of rain per day.

https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/warnings.php...eather+Outlook

HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA
219 PM PST WED FEB 11 2009

CAZ006-505-509-529-530-122230-
SAN FRANCISCO-
COASTAL NORTH BAY...INCLUDING POINT REYES NATIONAL SEASHORE-
SAN FRANCISCO PENINSULA COAST-NORTHERN MONTEREY BAY-
SOUTHERN MONTEREY BAY AND BIG SUR COAST-
219 PM PST WED FEB 11 2009

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR COASTAL AREAS OF THE SAN
FRANCISCO BAY AREA AND MONTEREY BAY AREA.

.DAY ONE...WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT

A HIGH SURF ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT ALONG THE COAST FROM 6 PM
WEDNESDAY UNTIL 6 PM THURSDAY FOR BREAKERS BETWEEN 15 AND 20 FEET.
PERSONS PLANNING ON BEING AT LOCAL BEACHES ARE URGED TO USE
EXTREME CAUTION.

* HIGH SURF ADVISORY - SEE SFOCFWMTR - WHUS46 KMTR *

IN ADDITION...SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE POSSIBLE
THROUGH THIS EVENING. SMALL HAIL CAN ALSO BE EXPECTED IN SOME OF
THE STORMS.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY

THE HIGH SURF ADVISORY CONTINUES ALONG THE COAST UNTIL 6 PM THURSDAY.

MULTIPLE STORM SYSTEMS WILL SPREAD RAIN ACROSS THE AREA OVER THE
NEXT SEVEN DAYS. ALTHOUGH IT IS STILL A FEW DAYS AWAY...PRELIMINARY
ESTIMATES SHOW THAT MANY COASTAL AREAS CAN EXPECT UP TO AN INCH OF
RAIN SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY WITH ISOLATED SPOTS POTENTIALLY
GETTING AN INCH AND A HALF.

THERE IS INCREASING CONCERN THAT SIGNIFICANT RAINFALL COULD OCCUR
IN AT LEAST ONE OF THE STORMS OVER THE NEXT SEVEN DAYS WHICH COULD
CAUSE HYDROLOGICAL PROBLEMS. ANYONE NEAR BURN AREAS...SMALL
STREAMS...OR RIVERS SHOULD CLOSELY MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

.SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT..

WEATHER SPOTTERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO REPORT SIGNIFICANT WEATHER
CONDITIONS PER STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.WEATHER SPOTTERS ARE
ENCOURAGED TO REPORT SIGNIFICANT WEATHER CONDITIONS PER STANDARD
OPERATING PROCEDURES.
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Old 02-11-09, 07:23 PM
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Still beats Belgium in the Winter.

Seriously, it would be nice if they could move it somewhere in the schedule to take advantage of the Sierras. Don't know if you'd get the same quality riders in the peak racing season though.
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Old 02-11-09, 07:48 PM
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Same type weather as last year, and they still had record crowds. Meanwhile, here I am looking for rain jacket and rain pants ... I'm gonna get soaked out there. Maybe I should bring a canoe?
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Old 02-11-09, 08:00 PM
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There is a possibility of snow at the 2000 foot level this weekend. Dress warmly.

I think last year was only rainy in Southern California. The 2 stages I saw up here were sunny and cool.
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Originally Posted by johnny99 View Post
There is a possibility of snow at the 2000 foot level this weekend. Dress warmly.

I think last year was only rainy in Southern California. The 2 stages I saw up here were sunny and cool.
the coastal stage to san luis obispo saw a horrible storm. we saw elephant seals on the side of the road when we drove through san simeon.

the next day in solvang i asked chris horner if he saw the elephant seals and he looked at me like i was crazy and then smiled and said he didn't see them this year but saw them last year.

levi said it was the stage was in the top three worst days on the bike for him.

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Old 02-11-09, 08:36 PM
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Yeah, the weather is a crap shoot for the ToC. However, the weather has been pretty good for the race for the most part. I know the weather during the first run of the race was uniformly spectacular, sandwiched between two period so fraging storms. But as someone said, it still beats Belgium this time of year. Heck, February here beats Belgium in April most of the time.

So why do it now? Because it is when the promoters can get the largest number of EuroPro teams over to the West Coast for a stage race. Once Paris-Nice and Tirenno-Adriatico happen, the Big Boys are pretty well consumed by the Spring Classics, the Giro, the Dauphine Libere, the Tour of Switzerland, the TdF, the Worlds, and the Tour of Spain. That takes you to late September. It might be possible to get some folks out then, but there is still competition from the Fall Classics, especially the Tour of Lombardy.

You'll notice that the Tour of Georgia and the Tour of Missouri don't draw talent the way the ToC does. That's because they are competing with higher profile races in Europe. The ToC, by contrast, pretty muich has only the Tour of Langkawi to go up against. As promoter, I'd much rather take that on instead of going head-to-head with Paris Roubaix or the Tour of Switzerland.
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Old 02-11-09, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by spingineer View Post
Same type weather as last year, and they still had record crowds. Meanwhile, here I am looking for rain jacket and rain pants ... I'm gonna get soaked out there. Maybe I should bring a canoe?
May be not a canoe, but the following... definitely:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/ima...407211&sr=1-16
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Old 02-11-09, 09:00 PM
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Johnny, I've been wondering the same thing. The top dogs will be in Europe during the spring and summer, but what about an October date? Great weather, days still fairly long, could be part of series which would include city races, such as a revived San Francisco Grand Prix.
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Old 02-11-09, 09:38 PM
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...Rainy season?
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Originally Posted by erader View Post
levi said it was the stage was in the top three worst days on the bike for him.
I believe it. I was cold and miserable just watching them online.
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Old 02-11-09, 10:25 PM
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There was a decent crowd along 128 at Pleasant's Valley Rd. last year to see them ride to Sacramento. I rode my bike out there and by coincidence met some friends who had a pick up with a shell, where we hung out when it rained.

This year I'll tuck an umbrella in my pocket and ride up to the top of Cardiac for the KOM. Rain, shmain. Sure, sun would be better, but I can deal with some inclement weather to watch the event. For me it's just a small fraction of my day. For the pros, it's a day of misery.
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Old 02-11-09, 11:10 PM
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I'm racing the 14th, probably in the rain, and I have to work the 15th or I would be out there rain or shine to see the riders go by. Yake some pictures for me, Red Rider. Maybe I'll see them next year. I'm not made of sugar, I won't melt from a little rain.
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Old 02-11-09, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by subframe View Post
I believe it. I was cold and miserable just watching them online.
I was cold and miserable waiting for them at the finish line in SLO. Lucky there wasn't a crash at the final corner.
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I'm still holding out hope for Saturday. WeatherUnderground still says 40% of rain. Which I take to mean 60% chance of not.

Rain and a heavy crosswind would be spectacularly ugly for the Prologue. TT bikes, tight 180 turn, and disc wheels don't make for a good mix in the weather.
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Old 02-12-09, 08:13 AM
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Wow, that forecast doesn't sound so great. I still plan to hit the local stages (2 & 3) but looks like I'll be doing some wardrobe adjustments. Have to keep a close eye on things I guess and play it by ear.

I hope it doesn't suck too badly for the riders!
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Ok i'll say it.... the spectators need to just HTFU it is only some rain... granted i love the water or i wouldn't be in the Coast Guard. But still it is only some water. Put on some gore-tex (one of the few times i advocate it because it is like an oven inside) and you will be warm AND dry.
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Well said trinity.
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It rained last year during the Sacramento stage.

It didn't stop the spectators (myself included) from attending.
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Old 02-12-09, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nachomc View Post
It rained last year during the Sacramento stage.

It didn't stop the spectators (myself included) from attending.

Yup it was pretty crowded. I was at the final turn before the finish line. Remember seeing Boonen dialing it up. I called it too!

Saturday is looking somewhat promising.....
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The biggest problem with the rain is that the racers are much less aggressive in bad weather. The peloton is drier and warmer. Break aways have little enough chance on flat stages (like most of the ToC stages) and even less chance in windy conditions.
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So who is officially in for Monday's stage somewhere along Tunitas Creek? Rain, fog and general misery is one thing at sea level but at Skyline level where it's always 10 to 15 degrees colder, that's another level of htfu.
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I always thought October would be a much better month for the tour of CA.
Our weather is always spectacular in October, definitely much better than Europe, and as far as I know most of the pro road racing in Europe is done by Septmeber, so why not have the Tour of CA in the first half of October?
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Originally Posted by johnny99 View Post
The biggest problem with the rain is that the racers are much less aggressive in bad weather. The peloton is drier and warmer. Break aways have little enough chance on flat stages (like most of the ToC stages) and even less chance in windy conditions.
except last year heading down the coast when the break stuck. How quickly we forget.
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Originally Posted by Bostic View Post
So who is officially in for Monday's stage somewhere along Tunitas Creek? Rain, fog and general misery is one thing at sea level but at Skyline level where it's always 10 to 15 degrees colder, that's another level of htfu.
I may be out there, but I'll be racing in the rain in Fresno on both Saturday and Sunday, so I may not be up for another long ride in the rain, but I'm planning on being out there somewhere.
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So who is officially in for Monday's stage somewhere along Tunitas Creek? Rain, fog and general misery is one thing at sea level but at Skyline level where it's always 10 to 15 degrees colder, that's another level of htfu.
I suck, but I am waiting for a critical mass to form to go up there so I can tag behind. It's easier to suffer in number than in solo.
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