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Old 07-01-09, 05:03 PM
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Woodside Crackdown

Don't ride Tandems in Woodside. Or don't "ride tandem" whatever the hell that means. Or blow snot rockets, there might be something in the CVC about that.

http://holierthanyou.blogspot.com/20...k-down-on.html
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Old 07-01-09, 09:24 PM
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Apparently a cyclist doesn't need to be riding with those ne'er-do-wells in Critical Mass to run afoul of a community of drivers. Perhaps what Woodside needs is a Critical Mass ride! But wait, maybe that's what they think they have now.

But seriously, aren't the police there violating the civil rights of free cyclists using the road in a legal manner, when they arbitrarily issue nuissance tickets to a targeted group?
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Old 07-02-09, 09:06 AM
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I hope these "tandem" bicyclists fight their tickets in court.
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Old 07-02-09, 09:35 AM
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As long as they were riding as far right as practicable, and they weren't interfering with traffic, then there was no violation and the officers were misled as to what was, and wasn't, a violation. Probably some AH cyclists hogging the lane and pissing off the rich folks in the area, who complained getting ALL cyclist in trouble and making the officers do something they'd rather not.
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Old 07-02-09, 09:44 AM
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I think that's about the size of it HIPCHIP. There is a vast spectrum of cyclist behaviour, and that area, plus the Alpine/Portola/Sandhill loop sees all of them in large numbers at times.

There has been a lot of police presence at the Alpine/Portola intersection during the last few days, so be on your best behaviour
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Old 07-02-09, 11:22 AM
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It's not clear from the link, but there are a lot of cyclists riding 2- or even 3-across on those roads. There's not enough room for that, you just get in the way of cars and piss off the drivers.
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That was my point in the recent CM thread. From a driver's perspective, we're all just bicycles in the way. Not pro racers, not commuters, not hipsters on fixies, not buzzed rowdies with an FY attitude. Just a bike or bikes in the way.

I wonder if there's a push for more and better bike rights and safety education for those taking driving school as a result of tickets?
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Old 07-02-09, 05:21 PM
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I find it hilarious that a motorcycle cop -- who is very familiar with lane sharing -- tickets cyclists for doing the same (in fact, not even the same, since only one was on the roadway).
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Just an observation ... it seems that the ones who crack down on cyclists the most are in those areas that cyclists love to ride in. When you know an area is cracking down, just be a little more cautious.
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spingineer, I'd add modify your observation thus

"it seems that the ones who crack down on cyclists the most are in those affluent areas that cyclists love to ride in. When you know an area is cracking down, just be a little more cautious."
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Maybe we should open a bike shop at the four corners . While this may seem like a slap in the face I'm sure the locals would appreciate some business revenue coming in. Maybe thats all they want.. in the end, just some cash for their "troubles".
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Maybe we should open a bike shop at the four corners . While this may seem like a slap in the face I'm sure the locals would appreciate some business revenue coming in. Maybe thats all they want.. in the end, just some cash for their "troubles".
I'm kind of surprised there isn't one in that location already. There should be, on principle, or maybe they should start selling tubes/CO2 at The bakery.
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spingineer, I'd add modify your observation thus

"it seems that the ones who crack down on cyclists the most are in those affluent areas that cyclists love to ride in. When you know an area is cracking down, just be a little more cautious."
The affluent areas call the cops.
The non-affluent areas might just run you down instead.
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Old 07-06-09, 07:51 PM
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Maybe we should open a bike shop at the four corners . While this may seem like a slap in the face I'm sure the locals would appreciate some business revenue coming in. Maybe thats all they want.. in the end, just some cash for their "troubles".
Haha, I like the idea of a local bike shop.

However, let me explain the perspective of the locals.

It takes us a long time to get anywhere (work, shopping, etc). For me it takes 30 minutes to get to 280, then add on driving time from there. All it takes one slow driver who doesn't pull over to let faster cars pass to add at least 10 minutes to that time. There are very few spots where a car can pass another car and often there's a car coming in the other direction, so you are trapped.

Now, if the front car is trapped behind a bicycle, everybody is going even slower and it's very frustrating. It's one thing taking the lane where there is an extra lane for cars to pass in, and it's another on a road that is a single lane in both directions and full of blind corners.

If I'm going at a decent speed, I may hold the lane for a few corners until there's a place for cars to pass, but at that point I will move over as far as possible, slow down, and wave them through to let them pass. This is reasonable and I do see others out there doing that, thank you.

However, there is a lot of thoughtless behavior as well. Riding 2- or 3-across on these kinds of roads, or taking the left side of the lane (a motorcycle should be able to pass in the same lane), or not moving aside if the car behind you seems unable to pass after there's an opportunity. Someone in the road forum posted recently about finally pulling over and seeing there were 26(!) cars lined up behind him. In general if there are several cars stuck behind you, no matter what kind of vehicle you are in/on, you should pull over.

Sharing the road goes both ways.
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Amen!
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Originally Posted by msincredible View Post
Sharing the road goes both ways.
Ding!

Treat others as you'd like to be treated on the road. Let people by when it's safe. Take the lane when you need to. Communicate. If it's safe for someone behind you to pass, signal as such. If it's not safe for them to pass, signal as such! Most people get it, and appreciate it. I think I've gotten more waves from cars I've let pass than I have from other cyclists, and I make sure to return the favor when someone lets me by, no matter what I'm piloting at the time.

There are cars on the road, there are motorcycles on the road, there are bicycles on the road, and there are pedestrians on the road. None of them are going away, so we might as well all try to get along.

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Extremist whacko nut-job, you are. Get outa here with all that narrow-minded common sense rubbish.


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Ding!

Treat others as you'd like to be treated on the road. Let people by when it's safe. Take the lane when you need to. Communicate. If it's safe for someone behind you to pass, signal as such. If it's not safe for them to pass, signal as such! Most people get it, and appreciate it. I think I've gotten more waves from cars I've let pass than I have from other cyclists, and I make sure to return the favor when someone lets me by, no matter what I'm piloting at the time.

There are cars on the road, there are motorcycles on the road, there are bicycles on the road, and there are pedestrians on the road. None of them are going away, so we might as well all try to get along.

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Extremist whacko nut-job, you are. Get outa here with all that narrow-minded common sense rubbish.
I'll kill you.
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A simple thing I like to do is to always turn my head around both ways when stopped at an intersection. It tells the other drivers that may be there that I know they're there. Puts them at ease, not having to wonder if I'm totally oblivious standing there all wrapped up in myself. Plus it's a good habbit for stretching my neck a bit.

Another nice thing when at an intersection, is to let cars by to make right turns. If they come up behind you, move ofer and let them turn. They LOVE it. I get waves and smiles all the time because of it.
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Ding!

Treat others as you'd like to be treated on the road. Let people by when it's safe. Take the lane when you need to. Communicate. If it's safe for someone behind you to pass, signal as such. If it's not safe for them to pass, signal as such! Most people get it, and appreciate it. I think I've gotten more waves from cars I've let pass than I have from other cyclists, and I make sure to return the favor when someone lets me by, no matter what I'm piloting at the time.

There are cars on the road, there are motorcycles on the road, there are bicycles on the road, and there are pedestrians on the road. None of them are going away, so we might as well all try to get along.

"Be the change you want to see in the world." --Mahatma Gandhi
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A simple thing I like to do is to always turn my head around both ways when stopped at an intersection. It tells the other drivers that may be there that I know they're there. Puts them at ease, not having to wonder if I'm totally oblivious standing there all wrapped up in myself. Plus it's a good habbit for stretching my neck a bit.

Another nice thing when at an intersection, is to let cars by to make right turns. If they come up behind you, move ofer and let them turn. They LOVE it. I get waves and smiles all the time because of it.

Cooperation? Seeing the other guy's point of view? Trying to - gasp - get along? What is the world coming to?

I'm just glad Michael Jackson, Farrah Fawcett, Ed McMahon and Bonzo the Wonder Chimp didn't live to see this perversion of truth, justice and the American Way.
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