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Old 11-08-10, 11:11 PM
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Bay Area, What is your FTP test roads?

I am going to do my first 2x20 FTP tests and wanted to know if anyone has a good road for testing. If so, what is it, and what makes it good? Is there a perfect flat 10+ mile road without stops? Something relatively safe.
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Old 11-08-10, 11:39 PM
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https://www.ebparks.org/parks/trails/alameda_creek

12 mile of flatness. No stops. What does FTP stand for?

EDIT: It is not perfectly flat. There are some very mild slopes.
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the slopes on alameda creek are hardly even countable.. they shoot under the road for just a second and there's not many of them anyway.

thats what you're looking for.
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Originally Posted by 531phile View Post
https://www.ebparks.org/parks/trails/alameda_creek

12 mile of flatness. No stops. What does FTP stand for?

EDIT: It is not perfectly flat. There are some very mild slopes.
Not sure about FTP.. but him saying 2x20 I'm assuming anaerobic threshold.

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...threshold-test
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Originally Posted by 531phile View Post
What does FTP stand for?
file transfer protocol

https://www.trainingbible.com/joesblo...threshold.html
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This might help https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...highlight=Test
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Originally Posted by bam View Post
file transfer protocol
That's all it means to me. When I saw the thread title, I thought, "Damn, back in my dialup days, it was all about ftp.apple.com for speed. I was stoked to get 7KB/s over a 56k connection."

Thanks for the link.
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Old 11-09-10, 11:33 AM
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OLH
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CP20 is best done on OLH:
  1. smooth steady grade.
  2. well protected from the wind and sun so results are much repeatable.
  3. If you don't have power meeter you can use this calculator to estimate your power (it's very accurate) - just work it backwards based on your weight till you arrive to your measured time.

General use trails (such as recommended here Alameda Creek) are not a very good choice for all out assault (required for proper FTP measurement). Just imagine, you'd be pushing at 20+ MPH afraid not to hit other cyclists, hikers, dog walkers, etc.

Naturally, it's better to go all out solo on a moderate climb then on a flat: safer (lower speed) and the incline works as natural motivator.

List of ATLs:
  • FTP - Functional Threshold Power. Maximum average power one can sustain for one hour.
  • CP20 - Critical Power for 20min (maximum average power for 20min). Since it's very hard to sustain maximum power for entire hour it's considered common practice to use 20min time trial test instead. It's assumed FTP is around 7.5% less then CP20 so FTP can be derived from CP20.
  • OLH - Old La Honda Rd.
  • MPH - miles per hour

Originally Posted by bayareawheeler View Post
OLH

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Old 11-09-10, 01:34 PM
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I hate it when someone uses an uncommon TLA and expects it to be understood!




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Most people can put up a higher 20min number on a climb than on the flat.

I prefer Kings to OLH. It's grade is more even and it has less traffic.
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Yeah, OLH or Kings. Both give very repeatable results for me.
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Originally Posted by ericm979 View Post
Most people can put up a higher 20min number on a climb than on the flat.

I prefer Kings to OLH. It's grade is more even and it has less traffic.
Plus all you fast people can finish OLH in under 20 min.

I guess if that's the case, just start from the pre-climb bump on Portola.
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Also, you can continue climb on Skyline for another minute or two once you pass stop sign.

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Plus all you fast people can finish OLH in under 20 min.

I guess if that's the case, just start from the pre-climb bump on Portola.
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