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Old 01-21-11, 09:41 PM
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Looking for a mechanic to assemble a bike in the bay area (san mateo)

As of Monday or Wednesday, I should have everything required to get the new frame fully assembled.

It's a madone 6.2 frame and I have new (take offs) 7800 dura ace parts, used Rol wheels(which will be shared with my other bike), a bontrager stem(spare one off of my gfs madone), fsa k force handlebar and yokozuna cables.

The bottom bracket bearing has been installed at a local trek shop ($37- for a 2 minute job, wish i had the skills and tools to do this myself), all the parts are ready to be slapped on the frame. I took care of the brakes calipers and can do the stem, handlebars and shifters.
All i would really need is installing the crank-set, derailers, chain and cables. I would also need to remove a 105 cassette from the ROL wheel and changing it for the dura ace one.

I was quoted $185 dollars by the LBS which I think it's absurd, perhaps i'm mistaken? It feels that i would just be needing to install the crank, chain and otherwise install a new set of cables.
Do you guys think this a fair price or am i within reasoned to be outraged. If that's just what i'm "expected" to pay because of demand, then i will suck it up and not assemble the bike for a while until i can spare the cash.

Installing new cables costs 15-20 dollars and replacing a change another 15-20? how does 30-40 turn into 185? I see random posts on craigslists advertising full assemblies for 70-80 dollars, but i feel weary about bringing a carbon bike to total strangers.

I would tackle this myself, but have not yet master the art of adjusting derailers. Last time my front derailer needed adjustment it took me about 30 minutes to get it working properly, so i rather let someone else thinker with it.

Any advice? It may be a 6.2 frame, but i'm just a student who's slowly acquiring parts for his dream bike.


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I am not sure what you are outraged about. You want service done that is what the shop charges. You either pay it or don't, nothing to be outraged about. Have you tried shopping around?

If it's just adjustment that is the problem then assemble it yourself then bring it to the shop to get derailleurs adjusted.
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Originally Posted by BayAreaUser View Post
As of Monday or Wednesday, I should have everything required to get the new frame fully assembled.

It's a madone 6.2 frame and I have new (take offs) 7800 dura ace parts, used Rol wheels(which will be shared with my other bike), a bontrager stem(spare one off of my gfs madone), fsa k force handlebar and yokozuna cables.

The bottom bracket bearing has been installed at a local trek shop ($37- for a 2 minute job, wish i had the skills and tools to do this myself), all the parts are ready to be slapped on the frame. I took care of the brakes calipers and can do the stem, handlebars and shifters.
All i would really need is installing the crank-set, derailers, chain and cables. I would also need to remove a 105 cassette from the ROL wheel and changing it for the dura ace one.

I was quoted $185 dollars by the LBS which I think it's absurd, perhaps i'm mistaken? It feels that i would just be needing to install the crank, chain and otherwise install a new set of cables.
Do you guys think this a fair price or am i within reasoned to be outraged. If that's just what i'm "expected" to pay because of demand, then i will suck it up and not assemble the bike for a while until i can spare the cash.

Installing new cables costs 15-20 dollars and replacing a change another 15-20? how does 30-40 turn into 185? I see random posts on craigslists advertising full assemblies for 70-80 dollars, but i feel weary about bringing a carbon bike to total strangers.

I would tackle this myself, but have not yet master the art of adjusting derailers. Last time my front derailer needed adjustment it took me about 30 minutes to get it working properly, so i rather let someone else thinker with it.

Any advice? It may be a 6.2 frame, but i'm just a student who's slowly acquiring parts for his dream bike.


Thanks =)
I think most shops price crankset installs at $15-20, derailleur each $15, chain: $5-10 and cables: may or maynot be included in derailleur price. Swapping a cassette is $5 at most shops.

If those are the only things needed, I'm looking at $65 at the most. They may have added a charge to tighten down all the bolts to spec using a torque wrench since it is a carbon bike (not sure if they included this in the price).

Maybe they thought they needed to install the brakes, stems, handlebars and shifters. That'll make the price almost double. But if you made sure that those parts wouldn't need to be installed or adjusted. Then $185 is way too much.

I was initially going to suggest one dude who post on CL, but looks like you don't want to deal with those types. Go to Street Level Cycles in North Berkeley. It's a community bike shop. They have all the tools that you will need to do this. There's mechanics that will show you how to do all these installs for free!!! One of the missions there is to teach folks how to work on bikes so they won't do this for you while you lounge back on a chair. It's all hands on deck. Just be sure to go there early since it can get full. And be sure to tip those mechanics with some bucks for their hardwork. I volunteered here about 1.5 years ago. I learned a lot from this experience and I'm wrenching now because of it. Ask for Chris or Julien. They are really helpful and know their stuff. They may or may not still be there. But I'm sure there will be someone that can help.

if time is more important to you than learning about wrenching, I believe they also can quote you a very fair price to do those installs.

https://www.watersideworkshops.org/wb/pages/bikes.php

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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
I am not sure what you are outraged about. You want service done that is what the shop charges. You either pay it or don't, nothing to be outraged about. Have you tried shopping around?
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The issue is not about whether I would pay it or not. It's more along the lines of asking if the price is reasonable. Whether i think the quote is absurd or i'm outraged (perhaps not the best choice of words) just because it's considered an "assembly" as opposed to a "tune up", which would include removal of all components to be installed again with new brake cables for half the price is simply my sentiment.

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I think most shops price crankset installs at $15-20, derailleur each $15, chain: $5-10 and cables: may or maynot be included in derailleur price. Swapping a cassette is $5 at most shops.

If those are the only things needed, I'm looking at $65 at the most. They may have added a charge to tighten down all the bolts to spec using a torque wrench since it is a carbon bike (not sure if they included this in the price).

Maybe they thought they needed to install the brakes, stems, handlebars and shifters. That'll make the price almost double. But if you made sure that those parts wouldn't need to be installed or adjusted. Then $185 is way too much.

I was initially going to suggest one dude who post on CL, but looks like you don't want to deal with those types. Go to Street Level Cycles in North Berkeley. It's a community bike shop. They have all the tools that you will need to do this. There's mechanics that will show you how to do all these installs for free!!! One of the missions there is to teach folks how to work on bikes so they won't do this for you while you lounge back on a chair. It's all hands on deck. Just be sure to go there early since it can get full. And be sure to tip those mechanics with some bucks for their hardwork. I volunteered here about 1.5 years ago. I learned a lot from this experience and I'm wrenching now because of it. Ask for Chris or Julien. They are really helpful and know their stuff. They may or may not still be there. But I'm sure there will be someone that can help.

if time is more important to you than learning about wrenching, I believe they also can quote you a very fair price to do those installs.

https://www.watersideworkshops.org/wb/pages/bikes.php

Thanks for the leads man! That community bike shops sounds like a great place to learn some much needed skills.
I would not be opposed to guys from craigslist as long as they are known and have been used by others. Maybe you could forward me his info. I simply meant that I would be hesitant to just get some random dude, whom i knew nothing about, wrenching on my baby.
Berkeley is quite a drive for me. However, if nothing else local pans out, i may just make the trip for the learning experience.
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If you brought all the cables, housing, etc, I'm a competent wrench and can help with derailleur mounting, tuning, etc. I don't have a torque wrench, but I do have a host of other tools.

However, if SL is too long a drive, there are several community bike shops throughout the area and it would be a great learning experience.
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I actually don't know anything about this guy: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2173469323.html

He's the one that I was going to suggest. I never dealt with him in anyway. And it looks like it would be an even longer drive since he is located in Concord/Pleasant Hill/Martinez.

He always post on CL. He has a photo of his kid on his website for some reason??? Just a proud dad??? Maybe to show other folks that he doesn't shoot blanks??? I figure if you are not happy with his service you can always kidnap his kid for random. ;-) I kid. I kid.

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The issue is not about whether I would pay it or not. It's more along the lines of asking if the price is reasonable. Whether i think the quote is absurd or i'm outraged (perhaps not the best choice of words) just because it's considered an "assembly" as opposed to a "tune up", which would include removal of all components to be installed again with new brake cables for half the price is simply my sentiment.
It is reasonable to them and who ever wants to pay it. Also did you specify just what needs to be done? Their estimate might have included headset installation, cable routing, shifter installation, cutting the fork, crank installation, bar tap wrapping, darailure and brake installation and tinning plus materials: cable housing, brake, and shifter cables, spacers. All of those things are not all that time consuming or difficult, but if shop charges lets say 10 buck it adds up.
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Thanks for the offer man.
I will keep you posted. I'm awaiting the arrival of the handlebars and a seat mast that i'm trading with a guy from the east coast. (I had a 19mm he had a 14mm) Hopefully this doesn't end up bitting me in the ass since I don't know the guy but found him through roadbikereview.com

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I actually don't know anything about this guy: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2173469323.html
Maybe to show other folks that doesn't shoot blanks??? I figure if you are not happy with his service you can always kidnap his kid for random. ;-) I kid. I kid.
hahaha. Dude you had me rolling with the shooting blanks to kidnapping the child...hahaah
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It is reasonable to them and who ever wants to pay .
So if i open a jiffy lube, charge $400 per oil change, and have plenty of soccer moms come in because they are clueless as to average prices and like seeing me change their oil wearing nothing but lycra shorts, then under your definition it is considered a reasonable price?

what i'm doing is not asking the the jiffy lube owner or the soccer moms whether the price is reasonable, i'm asking all other fellow roadsters, who have had more experience, whether they believe the price is fair.

Don't know why you are so adamant in arguing with me? I was simply asking if the price was fair because i'm relatively new to the sport.

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So if i open a jiffy lube, charge $400 per oil change, and have plenty of soccer moms come in because they are clueless as to average prices and like seeing me change their oil wearing nothing but lycra shorts, then under your definition it is considered a reasonable price?
For people who will be paying to get lubed, yes. Also maybe they are paying for more then the oil change.

what i'm doing is not asking the the jiffy lube owner or the soccer moms whether the price is reasonable, i'm asking all other fellow roadsters, who have had more experience, whether they believe the price is fair.

Don't know why you are so adamant in arguing with me?
Well you asked a bit more then that in original post, and then brought up the whole if it's reasonable or not "It's more along the lines of asking if the price is reasonable."
I am really not arguing with you. You asked a question I gave my opinion and then elaborated when you replied.
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congrats on the new bike.

my advice would be to learn to do this stuff yourself. you are a student afterall there is really nothing that complicated about putting a bike together and it's nice to know you can make any changes you want w/o having to go to the shop. check out the parktool website for a start, it has a bunch of illustrated how-to pages. and feel free to PM me if you have some specific questions.
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Buy a nice set of tools and check this out:

https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help
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Thank you guys!
There is a wealth of material on the internet. At this point, i'm inclining to really taking my time and installing the parts myself. I do have a bike stand, so that should make things easier. =)

Worse case scenario, I could always take it to a shop to get it adjusted (or bother one of the locals in this forum for some minor fine tuning. =)
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Yeah, if you drive out to my garage, I'd be more than happy to tune your stuff up. Teach you how to do it, too.

We need to figure out when that SF road closes, because I still want to climb it.
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What ever you do, don't shift into the lowest(big cog) in the back if you are not sure 100% sure that you set the low limit screw correctly because the chain could go into your rear spokes, messing up the derailleur, derailleur hanger, wheel and maybe causing you to crash.

One way to check is to put the bike in your stand, shift the rear derailleur at the hardest(small cog) and then pedal the bike with your right hand while pushing the rear derailleur with your left hand as far as it can go (towards the spokes). If the chain falls off towards the spokes, then you need to screw the low limit screw in a bit until the chain stays in place on the low(big cog) when you push the rear derailleur all the way in.

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The guy 531phile noted is really good. I have had him do a few things. I am now doing most it myself but still rely on Brent for a few items I haven't quite figured out.
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Yeah... I like bike co-ops but I'm not sure I'd bring a brand new full carbon bike into one. But putting together a bike isn't that difficult so you should look into learning to do it yourself (might be some expensive lessons if you mess anything up, though).

Anyway, $185 is not unreasonable for a complete build if you're talking about a snobby high-end LBS.
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