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2013 Amgen Tour of California

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The Amgen Tour of California, which is supposed to announce its 2013 schedule Tuesday afternoon, will finish in Santa Rosa, the Santa Rosa Press Democrat is reporting.
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Of course after the DIABLO SUMMIT FINISH stage the day before, Santa Rosa will be just a champagne parade with a downtown sprint.
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DiabloScott is getting closer to hosting a stage finish at the top of his own mountain!
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Mt. Diablo finish confirmed for the Livermore-Mt.Diablo Stage 7 on Saturday May 18. Mark your calendar!

"Stage 7 will start in
Livermore
and head to
Mt. Diablo
for an intense mountaintop finish."





Now they need to create a DiabloScott top finisher jersey...

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I assume the finish will be at the top and will do the same route as the Mt Diablo Challenge, i.e., up the left (downhill) side to the upper parking lot with the riders returning back down the right (uphill) side to the lower parking lot where their tour buses will be parked. The question is will they allow spectators on that last 200 meter section or even at the upper parking lot. Not much room on that last section for anyone to stand, let alone for the erection of barricades to keep the spectators from crowding the riders.

Or maybe the organizers will go for a real rider experience and let the spectators go nuts on that last section and crowd the riders down to single-file? Probably not.
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I still think they need to start this stage in San Jose and do Hamilton first, then Mines, then Diablo.

One day....

This is still awesome, should be an epic showing on the mountain!
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Originally Posted by ztmlgr View Post
I assume the finish will be at the top and will do the same route as the Mt Diablo Challenge, i.e., up the left (downhill) side to the upper parking lot with the riders returning back down the right (uphill) side to the lower parking lot where their tour buses will be parked.
When they come to me for advice, I'll tell them to stop all spectators before the Lower Parking Lot, then - only those in competition for the stage placings or podium spots will have to go up the Summit Wall. The ceremonies and news crews (and maybe paid VIP Experience buyers) will be in the Upper Parking Lot - all the other racers and support vehicles can just pull off into the LPL where the team buses will be and the official time will stop.
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Originally Posted by uspspro View Post
This is still awesome, should be an epic showing on the mountain!
I doubt the race will go straight from Livermore to Diablo. What will be in between? A ride east first and then west on Marsh Creek to Morgan Territory Road and then to South Gate? Or straight north up Morgan Territory to Clayton and Walnut Creek before North Gate to the Summit?
Many interesting possibilities...
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I doubt the race will go straight from Livermore to Diablo. What will be in between? A ride east first and then west on Marsh Creek to Morgan Territory Road and then to South Gate? Or straight north up Morgan Territory to Clayton and Walnut Creek before North Gate to the Summit?
Many interesting possibilities...

CoCoTimes reports they're going up the Easy Side. I'll bet they go south to Mines Road and swing by the Calaveras Reservoir first. That'd be a little over 100 miles.
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
When they come to me for advice, I'll tell them to stop all spectators before the Lower Parking Lot, then - only those in competition for the stage placings or podium spots will have to go up the Summit Wall. The ceremonies and news crews (and maybe paid VIP Experience buyers) will be in the Upper Parking Lot - all the other racers and support vehicles can just pull off into the LPL where the team buses will be and the official time will stop.
Now that you mention it ... If it were me making decisions and I was faced with choosing to finish the race on the UPL with NO spectators allowed on the last 200 meters with the riders basically riding in a vacuum OR finishing the race on the LPL and packing in the fans 20-deep on that wide swath of pavement, I think I'd go for finishing on the LPL. A much better spectacle would be had with screaming fans rather than with no fans, in my opinion. Who's gonna know, other than the locals, that the LPL really isn't the top of the mountain? There's all kinds of room on the LPL for a long run-up to the finish. Hell, they can even erect temporary grandstands, charge 30 bucks a pop for seats, and still make money.
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUdge YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is so freaking awesome! I can't wait for May!!! From what I read on cyclingnews, they are climbing up the wall, not sure which side though. They will probably put barriers up for the wall, so the riders can get back down to the lower big lot and their buses. But I'd think the rest will be open, like it was last year to the junction. Anywhere in that last couple of miles from Juniper will be a great place to watch...it's nearly 8% for most of that...hopefully some of the guys will be going slow enough to actually see them!!! But watching them race for the stage up the wall would be crazy...I wonder how fast they will pull that last pitch...
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Well, I sure have plans in May now!
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This time, I plan to be there. It'll be interesting to compare the pace of the pro's with the winning times of the Diablo challenge (assuming they do indeed do SGR) - fresh legs on fast amateurs vs pro racing at the end of a long stage.
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I thought Livermore decided to opt out. What changed?
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
I thought Livermore decided to opt out. What changed?
They got some money from various sources, and AEG helped them out with some of the costs.
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Regardless of all else, it will be a freakin' zoo at the top. Get there early. Like a day or two before.
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Originally Posted by UmneyDurak View Post
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They got some money from various sources, and AEG helped them out with some of the costs.
Having the stage scheduled for a Saturday also helped, Livermore will be able to get more volunteer help and fewer paid city employees. As I understand it, the negotiations also involved having the stage start on Second Street instead of First Street, which made business sources more willing to help out with the costs.

The overall taken in by "the community" was a lot more than the outlay of money, so it made sense to get it done, but the problem was that most of the outlay was government money and tax revenue from the overall amount being taken in by the community didn't cover the government outlay (or so claimed people from the City). It was in the best interest of businesses to help out so the event could happen. It didn't seem like there was going to be enough time to work it all out, but somehow, it happened. Given the shortened amount of time to work it out, having the stage on a Saturday was a big factor.
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Originally Posted by bikingshearer View Post
Regardless of all else, it will be a freakin' zoo at the top. Get there early. Like a day or two before.
So you're suggesting we ride up Thursday morning and camp out? Like it's an iWhatever release or something?
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@ DiabloScott.........do you get a cut of the gross for this stage ?

@ everyone else.......am I the only one who thinks it amusing that a company that makes a form
of the blood booster EPO sponsors a stage tour bike race ? Is that cool, or what ?
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So you're suggesting we ride up Thursday morning and camp out? Like it's an iWhatever release or something?
No, I'm suggesting we ride up Thursday morning and camp out and party like we're a bunch of crazy drunken Danes on Alpe d'Huez.
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@ DiabloScott.........do you get a cut of the gross for this stage ?

@ everyone else.......am I the only one who thinks it amusing that a company that makes a form
of the blood booster EPO sponsors a stage tour bike race ? Is that cool, or what ?
Considering Amgen was making EPO for it's intrended use - increasing red blood cell counts in chemo patients - pretty much since EPO was invented, and considering all the good EPO has done for cancer oand other patients (and yes, I've known one or two folks who had to use EPO for its intended purpose), I think it is very cool that Amgen supports this race. I, for one, refuse to let the cheats in cycling and other endurance sports tarnish the name of an incredibly useful drug or the company that makes it. I hope Amgen is making boatloads of money off of EPO - it's a win-win.
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Considering Amgen was making EPO for it's intrended use - increasing red blood cell counts in chemo patients - pretty much since EPO was invented, and considering all the good EPO has done for cancer oand other patients (and yes, I've known one or two folks who had to use EPO for its intended purpose), I think it is very cool that Amgen supports this race. I, for one, refuse to let the cheats in cycling and other endurance sports tarnish the name of an incredibly useful drug or the company that makes it. I hope Amgen is making boatloads of money off of EPO - it's a win-win.
Amgen also makes the arthritis drugs that my wife and daughter both use... expensive stuff but it works; I'm glad a piece of my copay goes to the ToC.

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Considering Amgen was making EPO for it's intrended use - increasing red blood cell counts in chemo patients - pretty much since EPO was invented, and considering all the good EPO has done for cancer oand other patients (and yes, I've known one or two folks who had to use EPO for its intended purpose), I think it is very cool that Amgen supports this race. I, for one, refuse to let the cheats in cycling and other endurance sports tarnish the name of an incredibly useful drug or the company that makes it. I hope Amgen is making boatloads of money off of EPO - it's a win-win.
Firstly, lighten up.

Secondly, off label use of drugs by athletes to enhance performance
has been around most of my long lifetime, so no big whoop. It tarnishes
nothing in regard to the drugs themselves or the companies that make them.

Thirdly, lighten up. I actually do think it both cool, and amusing. If that is
impossible in your universe, I feel badly for you.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer View Post
Firstly, lighten up.

Secondly, off label use of drugs by athletes to enhance performance
has been around most of my long lifetime, so no big whoop. It tarnishes
nothing in regard to the drugs themselves or the companies that make them.

Thirdly, lighten up. I actually do think it both cool, and amusing. If that is
impossible in your universe, I feel badly for you.
No need to feel badly for me - feel badly for my wife, who gets to listen to my pronunciamentos, puns and other verbal flotsam and jetsam on a regular basis.
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