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Seattle Forrest 07-20-21 03:23 PM

DNR closes all land east of Cascades
 
https://www.dnr.wa.gov/dnr-closure-eastern-2021

CliffordK 07-20-21 03:28 PM

Do Not Resuscitate?

aRoudy1 07-20-21 05:36 PM

Sadly, that won't deter those exercising their constitutional right to pursuit of happiness around a roaring campfire!

Seattle Forrest 07-20-21 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 22150430)
Do Not Resuscitate?

Department of Natural Resources.

Seattle Forrest 07-21-21 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by aRoudy1 (Post 22150624)
Sadly, that won't deter those exercising their constitutional right to pursuit of happiness around a roaring campfire!

I saw people with camp fires this weekend. I almost went Texas Chainsaw Massacre on them. :mad:

woodway 07-21-21 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest (Post 22151513)
I saw people with camp fires this weekend. I almost went Texas Chainsaw Massacre on them. :mad:

IFPL 2/3 - only before 1:00pm you need to have water and a shovel on hand and a fire watch. Otherwise, have at them! :)

CliffordK 07-21-21 09:59 PM

I do believe it is possible to have a safe summer campfire. But, unfortunately too many people don't follow common sense.

One of my last camp fires was a few years ago on this trip.

https://www.bikeforums.net/attachmen...hmentid=463648

I don't think I ever got a photo of the fire. However, my fire was inches from the river, and perhaps a total footprint of about a square foot.

I may have also made a fire another mile or two upriver, also in a very open, rocky area.

Cooking camp fires is a part of my childhood that I might miss. But, I think from now on it will be camp stoves or cold food.

downtube42 07-21-21 10:09 PM

I'd like to think we'll be lucky, but I'm afraid it's going to be a very bad summer here in the PNW. I've never been one to have a bug-out bag or plan, but I'm working on one. It's a tinder box here, and people are insane.

Seattle Forrest 07-21-21 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 22152523)
I do believe it is possible to have a safe summer campfire. But, unfortunately too many people don't follow common sense.

​​​​​​At this point, if you want to have a fire and not have Forrest go Chainsaw Willie on you, it needs to be on the beach below the high tide line. :mad:

Camp fires aren't inherently evil and people have been using them for a very long time. But we're in a bad context now. The people who will ignore a burn ban when it's been this dry for this long are mostly the ones who can't take care of it properly. Fall will come, right around when camp fires start getting more and more appropriate, they'll be safer to have too. Until then, it's been a lot of short sleeve nights.

SurferRosa 07-24-21 01:49 AM


Originally Posted by downtube42 (Post 22152536)
I'm afraid it's going to be a very bad summer here in the PNW.

​​​​​​Well, we finished the first of three months without too much hoo-ha.

woodway 07-26-21 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by SurferRosa (Post 22155443)
​​​​​​Well, we finished the first of three months without too much hoo-ha.

Plenty of hoo-ha you live East of the Cascades. The North Cascades highway has been closed for a couple of weeks due to wildfire, there is another large fire north of Winthrop and a whole bunch of new fire starts all over the state.

In the Cle Elum area, near my house we had four fire starts over the weekend, one right next to I-90 at Golf Course Road, one up on Kachess Dam road and two down by Thorp. Thank goodness the fire agencies were able to get right on them. To say people are on edge over here is an understatement. It's *dry*, and not all the locals and the visitors who come for the weekend are always responsible in their recreation.

I'm never a fan of closing public lands, but in this case I am very happy that DNR closed things down.

Good site to follow for updates on new fire starts:

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mtnbud 07-26-21 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by SurferRosa (Post 22155443)
​​​​​​Well, we finished the first of three months without too much hoo-ha.

Consider how many years it takes for an area to recover after a fire. It takes a long time for a fir or pine tree to grow to significant height.

With our long term apparent weather trends, forests may never be quite the same after a fire. Long term drought and hot summers may mean an end to endless square miles of fir and pine trees to be replaced by trees and vegetation better able to survive dry conditions.

Is having a camp fire important enough to risk it? Shards of broken glass on dry grass have been known to start grass fires. A tow chain dragging on rocks causing sparks. Someone carelessly flicking a cigarette out a car window.

Typically fire season is late August through September. We may still have 2 or 3 months before we get any substantial amount of rain here in the PNW.


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