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Old 04-10-09, 01:40 PM
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I "lost" the RAMROD lottery, how'd you do?

I tried to get into RAMROD this year and just got the email yesterday that I am number 475 on the wait list. Apparently last year they cleared 250 off the list - so unlikely I will make it.

Am considering:

- Riding the route on my own (*not* the day of the ride, some other weekday when the traffic is light).
- Riding the Native Planet Classic (June 20) - Winthrop / North Cascades / Winthrop - 120 miles over the North Cascades Highway.


[Yes I know I can volunteer to work RAMROD this year to get a secure spot in RAMROD next year, but doesn't even sound like they take all volunteers]

Who got in?

If you're interested in a late-July weekday spin around the RAMROD course, LMK.
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Old 04-10-09, 01:43 PM
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I was selected for the second year in a row. Now I'm off to buy a lottery ticket...
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i lost as well, but i guess it evens out since i got in last year.

i'm thinking of doing it on an off-day at some point as well, perhaps as a 200k permanent route (e.g. anytime brevet).

services are pretty limited once you get past Elbe; if i recall correctly, the only place to get water (or anything) between there and Greenwater is at the Paradise lodge, roughly halfway in between. i had breakfast there on last year's 600k through the area, and it really hit the spot!

btw when are the passes clear enough to bike through the park? i'm guessing no earlier than late may or so.
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Originally Posted by mattm View Post
services are pretty limited once you get past Elbe; if i recall correctly, the only place to get water (or anything) between there and Greenwater is at the Paradise lodge, roughly halfway in between. i had breakfast there on last year's 600k through the area, and it really hit the spot!
There are services a bit farther in the park than Elbe -- there is a visitor center with food and groceries at Longmire, and then there is the visitor center at Paradise, as you mention. From Paradise to Greenwater is about 50 miles without services.

A somewhat less ambition plan of mine is to ride from home (on the East Side) to Orting to pick up the RAMROD route, and then get to Ashford in one day, stay in a motel, and then return home. About 200 miles round trip. Advantage is that you're doing the stretch without services early in the morning when you're fresher; then once you hit Greenwater you're close to civilization, and from Enumclaw on home you're pretty much back in civilization.

[I know the insane among you would consider that a one-day ride. I'm talking to you, Matt.]

I also spotted this 82-mile alternative Mt. Rainier loop on Mapmyride -

https://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united...e/247629906696

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Old 04-10-09, 07:49 PM
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BB; The Native Planet Classic is a great ride! I did it last year. Elevation gains are the same as RAMROD, the miles a bit less, the scenery is great, and the ride is well supported. What I liked best about the Native Planet Classic was the solitude. There were hardly any cars and very few riders. You really have the sense you're riding thru a wilderness area. Look at the elevation profile of that ride: 2 big climbs and 2 long screaming faast downhills.
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Old 04-10-09, 09:56 PM
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I am #196 on the wait till next year list.......would love to do it before I can't!
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Old 04-11-09, 08:17 AM
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I spoke with the Redmond Bicycle Club members at the expo about RAMROD registration. The next time I thought about it was when reading in these forums that the deadline had passed.

Someday, I'll probably take a nice sunny Tuesday or Wednesday off work and do the route myself. I've been making a point of becoming self-sufficient on my rides, not because I desire to pay Hammer hundreds of dollars for the "pleasure" of drinking Perpetuem, but rather so I can complete epic rides when no rest stops are provided.

I also did Native Planet last year. Great ride, although I was bonking pretty hard on the return trip up Washington Pass. The volunteers were extremely friendly and the food was awesome. +1 on the solitude compared to other organized rides.
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Old 04-13-09, 10:22 AM
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Thanks for the advice on the Native Planet Classic - I just signed up. I had also signed up to ride the Tour de Blast (same day) a second time, so I guess I now have a Tour de Blast registration for sale (or else I'll watch the weather and pick a ride when the day gets closer...).
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Old 04-15-09, 11:29 AM
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I think I am #350 or so on the wait list. I am planning on doing the permanent route once they open the roads ect.
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I got in! But I broke my clavicle so my training is a bit off track.
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Old 04-21-09, 03:19 PM
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I volunteered last year and automagically earned a bypass. Now I need to start training - training beyond my usual ~30 miles of daily commuting at least.
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Old 04-21-09, 10:13 PM
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I am 175 on the wait list, probably get in. If not I will ride it some other day, cant be to hard eh?
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Old 04-22-09, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dmoney19 View Post
I am 175 on the wait list, probably get in. If not I will ride it some other day, cant be to hard eh?
I'm starting to spook myself thinking of the Cayuse Pass climb. I've survived climbs almost that big before, but never with ~100 miles beforehand
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Old 04-22-09, 11:19 AM
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So has anyone done the RAMROD before, for someone that would be new to the ride, what would you tell them, any advice?? Is it as hard as I am thinking??
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I'm starting to spook myself thinking of the Cayuse Pass climb. I've survived climbs almost that big before, but never with ~100 miles beforehand
It does look a little intimidating on the profile. But, I started riding the Summits of Bothell routes here once or twice a week. There a few hills that push close to 20% grade in sections, although not as long as the sustained climbs on Ramrod, it should help a little bit.
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Originally Posted by dmoney19 View Post
It does look a little intimidating on the profile. But, I started riding the Summits of Bothell routes here once or twice a week. There a few hills that push close to 20% grade in sections, although not as long as the sustained climbs on Ramrod, it should help a little bit.
I hope you're not implying there are 20%+ grades lasting for several miles

What are these "sustained" climbs like? If I paced myself I could ride 5-6% for quite a while. I can do much steeper if they are rolling - getting a small break every 10 minutes or so to recoup.
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Good training / awesome ride: Ride up to Sunrise at Mt Rainier. As soon as it opens, toss your bike in the car and drive up hwy 410 to the crystal mountain turn off. Start from there. You'll have 2 good climbs. The first, is a climb of approx 5 miles from the park entrance to the turnoff for Sunrise. Good warmup for whats to come. The second one, a 10 mile climb from the white river campground to Sunrise will give you a pretty good idea of what to expect for Cayuse. Not horribly steep but it is a constant effort. Bring warm clothes
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Originally Posted by smurf hunter View Post
I hope you're not implying there are 20%+ grades lasting for several miles

What are these "sustained" climbs like? If I paced myself I could ride 5-6% for quite a while. I can do much steeper if they are rolling - getting a small break every 10 minutes or so to recoup.
i think cayuse pass (the last one on the route) is the hardest, weighing in at 5-7% grade for 5 or 6 miles. something like that.

it's not so much the steepness that gets to people, just the sustained part, and in the heat no less. cayuse takes about an hour to climb, and it was damn hot last year.

fwiw i don't think there any grades above 10% or so on the whole ramrod route.
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Originally Posted by smurf hunter View Post
I hope you're not implying there are 20%+ grades lasting for several miles

What are these "sustained" climbs like? If I paced myself I could ride 5-6% for quite a while. I can do much steeper if they are rolling - getting a small break every 10 minutes or so to recoup.
No no, sorry for the confusion. There are a few hills around here(Bothell area) that push close to 20% for a hundred feet or so, but usually back off to average around 15-16%. Hill repeats up those should help build a little endurance for the longer, but thankfully less steep hills on the Ramrod course.
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I don't think there is anything sustained over 5% on ramrod? I have only ridden it once but would say muscular endurance for the length of the ride is more important than pure hill climbing. Once you get to the park its a beautiful ride and the climbs give a great speed to take in the scenery. When I get in again I will remember the following: bring a camera, remember how freezing cold it is at the start but it will get warmer, that Cayuse isn't that bad other than the lack of pavement in places last year, bring chamois creme and always have some buddies to make the flat ground portions go by in a nice paceline.
Two other early season options for long hill climbs .... Blewett Pass which should be open now, it has a nice wide shoulder and you can take old blewett road 1/2 way up for more back country. The other would be Hurricane ridge but I think it is closed for re-surfacing work. I think HR is harder than ramrod considering the shorter miles

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Old 05-04-09, 01:14 AM
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The RCC just put a couple of tickets up on eBay (the $ goes to park development funds which is cool too). More info: https://blog.redmondcyclingclub.org/?p=126
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They updated the wait list,I moved from 175 to 65!!!
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They updated the wait list,I moved from 175 to 65!!!
I'm guessing over the next 90 days that will continue as people realize they haven't trained enough/get injured/flake/etc.
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I just checked and I'm now 330 or something on the list, down from 475.

Update May 14: now at 303.

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They updated the list again, position 39!! Time to start those interval sessions with a vengeance!
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