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terrymorse 08-20-19 11:30 AM

Swollen Ankles?
 
Has anyone here experienced swollen ankles after riding?

I noticed my ankles were swollen for the past week or so, enough that the top of my not-very-snug biking socks are leaving a dent in my ankle. I've never seen this before in all my years of riding. But then again, this is new territory for me (almost 61 y.o., week 9 of comeback training plan after 4 years of inactivity, recent longer rides with more climbing).

This morning, they're back to normal. Weird.

Anybody else gone through this before?

Jon T 08-20-19 11:56 AM

I'm 64 yo. I'm on warfarin for that very reason. It's called DVT's, commonly known as blood clots. Go see a vascular specialist. At the very least get compression stockings and wear them religiously. I live in a knee-high on my left leg. You might think about socks for diabetics. They are light weight, loose weave and won't leave the dent in your leg.
Jon

jadocs 08-20-19 01:26 PM

How's your diet? High in sodium?

terrymorse 08-20-19 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by jadocs (Post 21084323)
How's your diet? High in sodium?

Hmm. I don't think so. Just the electrolytes that are in my sports drink.

JanMM 08-20-19 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Jon T (Post 21084175)
I'm 64 yo. I'm on warfarin for that very reason. It's called DVT's, commonly known as blood clots. Go see a vascular specialist. At the very least get compression stockings and wear them religiously. I live in a knee-high on my left leg. You might think about socks for diabetics. They are light weight, loose weave and won't leave the dent in your leg.
Jon

Not all leg swelling is related to DVT's. Only way to know if one is present is by having a diagnostic test. Check with healthcare practitioner if that is a concern.
Compression stockings or calf sleeves can help control lower leg swelling. https://www.webmd.com/dvt/choose-com...on-stockings#1

Trevtassie 08-20-19 04:07 PM

Go and see a doctor, there's a whole bunch of reasons ankles swell, none of them are good.

terrymorse 08-20-19 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Trevtassie (Post 21084556)
Go and see a doctor, there's a whole bunch of reasons ankles swell, none of them are good.

Good advice, I'm on it. Now all I need to do is navigate the medical bureaucracy. My primary care doctor has quit, and none of the other doctors are accepting new patients. :bang:

You're right about the myriad causes of swelling ankles, which include:
  • heart valve problem
  • high blood pressure
  • diabetes
  • low protein levels
  • deep venous thrombosis
  • severe lung disease
  • congestive heart failure
  • varicose veins
  • liver disease
  • kidney failure
  • obesity
  • pregnancy
  • dehydration
I can cross out obesity and pregnancy, so that's a relief.

skidder 08-20-19 07:19 PM

Go see your doctor ASAP. If it is DVT its nothing to put off. Blood clots could break free from your legs and migrate up to your heart and plug a vein in it. I have it in only one leg, occurred suddenly when I got out of my car and thought I'd pulled a muscle. I've been taking warfarin, too, keeps it in check but it'll never go away. I can walk and bike ride normally, but by the end of the day my lower calf is noticeably swollen. I never used the compression socks.

cb400bill 08-20-19 07:44 PM

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Carbonfiberboy 08-20-19 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by terrymorse (Post 21084712)
Good advice, I'm on it. Now all I need to do is navigate the medical bureaucracy. My primary care doctor has quit, and none of the other doctors are accepting new patients. :bang:

You're right about the myriad causes of swelling ankles, which include:
  • heart valve problem
  • high blood pressure
  • diabetes
  • low protein levels
  • deep venous thrombosis
  • severe lung disease
  • congestive heart failure
  • varicose veins
  • liver disease
  • kidney failure
  • obesity
  • pregnancy
  • dehydration
I can cross out obesity and pregnancy, so that's a relief.

Not DVT. If it were, you'd be in the hospital with tubes in you by now. Nor is the greatest possibility on your list: weak vein valves. We have check valves in our veins, just ordinary plumbing. Blood goes toward the heart, doesn't fall back down between beats. As we age, these valves get weak and pressure in the veins increases, starting at the ankles. Then fluid starts to leak out of the veins a bit and saturate surrounding tissues and starts with swollen ankles. This can gradually move up the leg. The immediate fix is compression knee socks, worn all day, every day. Quite stylish ones are available on Amazon. You can also elevate your feet at night if that works for you. Another good thing is simply exercise. Walk an hour every day. Leg muscles pump blood, too. Moving your ankles with the walking motion should help. Some endurance runners wear compression socks during training and events.

How did I learn all this? My wife has had this problem for some time. She tried compression socks on the bike but didn't like it.

But yeah, see a doctor.

terrymorse 09-13-19 06:48 PM

Update: After about 10 days of puffy ankles, they went away and have not come back. Hooray for that.

My two main hypotheses for the cause are dehydration and inadequate protein intake. Hoping that's all it was.

Still waiting to see a doctor. After searching the regional medical groups for days, I finally found one that is accepting new patients (Stanford Family Medicine). The earliest appointment I could get was October 9th.

unterhausen 09-17-19 12:45 PM

I have had swollen ankles after a couple of grand randonnees (1200 km in 4 days). It's pretty common for your heart to slow down during a ride like that, and one of the resulting symptoms is that there is water buildup in your lower legs. It goes away pretty fast. Hasn't happened to me recently, not sure what the difference is.

Trevtassie 09-25-19 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by terrymorse (Post 21121806)
Update: After about 10 days of puffy ankles, they went away and have not come back. Hooray for that.

My two main hypotheses for the cause are dehydration and inadequate protein intake. Hoping that's all it was.

Still waiting to see a doctor. After searching the regional medical groups for days, I finally found one that is accepting new patients (Stanford Family Medicine). The earliest appointment I could get was October 9th.

Far out, must suck where you are....
Not quite the same, because I'm already a patient, but if I ring the doctors at 8.30am I can usually get an appointment that day!

terrymorse 09-25-19 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Trevtassie (Post 21138273)
Far out, must suck where you are....
Not quite the same, because I'm already a patient, but if I ring the doctors at 8.30am I can usually get an appointment that day!

Part of the problem is living in Silicon Valley. It's so expensive to live here, doctors can't afford the cost of living.

That's right, doctors can't afford to live here.

bobwysiwyg 09-25-19 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by terrymorse (Post 21138533)
That's right, doctors can't afford to live here.

Yipes! :twitchy:

zjrog 10-07-19 10:56 AM

I still carry excess fluid from before my weight loss surgery, still on water pills, but a much lower daily dose. I get more swelling post ride, as opposed to during the ride. But so far, no need for compression socks.

ThermionicScott 10-07-19 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by unterhausen (Post 21126478)
I have had swollen ankles after a couple of grand randonnees (1200 km in 4 days). It's pretty common for your heart to slow down during a ride like that, and one of the resulting symptoms is that there is water buildup in your lower legs. It goes away pretty fast. Hasn't happened to me recently, not sure what the difference is.

My feet swell up pretty regularly on brevets, especially on warm days. It caused really bad hot spots that moving my cleats backward didn't fix until a randonneuse friend suggested that my feet might be swelling, making my shoes effectively too small. Loosening up my shoelaces helped, sizing up my shoes, then eventually switching to sandals, fixed it.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the real culprit behind a lot of other people's hot spots, too.


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