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Old 05-13-15, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Leinster View Post
How hairy was that Hamilton descent?
My arms are tired today from all the twisty turns yesterday. I was following C-3 (CHP) down it as fast as we both could go.
Without a doubt, it's the most technical road I've ever been on.



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And who is John Murphy?
He's the 2009 elite crit national champion. Had some good finishes at the Tour of Missouri. Then went to Europe. It's taken a while to transform him from a criterium guy to RR guy.
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8 to 12 inches of snow predicted for Friday's TT in Big Bear. Bummer! I don't look forward to driving all the way up there just to have it cancelled.

Worse than that, I've done all my research on every single rider in advance of announcing the TT start house. And it may all get thrown away.

#firstworldproblems
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Old 05-13-15, 11:31 AM
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8 to 12 inches of snow predicted for Friday's TT in Big Bear. Bummer! I don't look forward to driving all the way up there just to have it cancelled.

Worse than that, I've done all my research on every single rider in advance of announcing the TT start house. And it may all get thrown away.

#firstworldproblems
It's a dead flat out&back route around a lake, that just happens to be at 6,000ft elevation. Plough the streets and let them ride!

And the forecast I'm looking at says 3-5in. Presumably falling early morning or late at night, shouldn't be a problem midday when the racing would be going on. Hope everyone packed their Gabbas...
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Old 05-13-15, 05:21 PM
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Great finish by Sagan, but the winning of the stage was the 4 or 5 places he gained diving up the inside in the last 2 turns.
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I actually thought Oss was going to make it. What a move he made with only 1k or so left! Funny to see somebody in the KOM jersey make a move like that.

Glad for Sagan though. This should help his relationship with his boss - at least for a little while...
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Old 05-13-15, 05:38 PM
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I liked the way he just dismissed the Oleg questions at the finish. "Will this ease things with your team owner?" "This win is for Maciej Bodnar who crashed out of the race yesterday..."
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Old 05-13-15, 10:40 PM
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Big Bear TT (mens & womens) moved to Santa Clarita.

AMGEN Tour of California - FRIDAY?S MEN?S & WOMEN?S INDIVIDUAL TIME TRIALS WILL BE RELOCATED TO SANTA CLARITA DUE TO WEATHER CONCERNS
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bummer! big bear is a beautiful area. i was looking forward to seeing all of the riders get out there
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Old 05-14-15, 10:57 AM
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This race is cursed, with respect to mountainous stages! The Tahoe stage was canceled a few years ago, and now this? We have freaking zero freaking precip all damn winter, basically ZERO snow in Lake Tahoe, and now in freaking MAY we are getting feet of snow!??!?! Insane!
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Old 05-14-15, 11:22 AM
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Time trial at 6000 feet would've been interesting... oh well.

And for the question that everyone's been thinking about: SKOO-eenj

Skujins pronunciation: How to pronounce Skujins in Latvian
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Old 05-14-15, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cthenn View Post
This race is cursed, with respect to mountainous stages! The Tahoe stage was canceled a few years ago, and now this? We have freaking zero freaking precip all damn winter, basically ZERO snow in Lake Tahoe, and now in freaking MAY we are getting feet of snow!??!?! Insane!
In fairness, this was never supposed to be a mountainous stage; the profile for the original TT was just going to be around the lakeshore, so unless they actually ADD climbs in Santa Clarita, the only real difference will be that it takes place at 1000' instead of 6000'. Still, it's great that they can put together a contingency plan on such short notice, so I'd say well done to the organisers for having their 5h1t together enough to get ahead on this.

The Giro, Vuelta and Tour have all had to cancel/shorten/neutralise stages in relatively recent times, so it's not surprising that California might have to do it once in a while too. It's the price you occasionally have to pay for wanting to have a race at those elevations, even in summer. And as said already, we'll happily take any snowfall we can get in these parts these days.
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Old 05-14-15, 11:42 AM
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Well I guess my general point is that snow is messing up some of the more scenic stages, I think it would have done this race a world of good to race through Tahoe. Not too familiar with the mountains in SoCal, but anything is better than Liggett talking about "oh the oil fields of BAkersfield! Lovely, lovely California!" You watch this race and if you aren't familiar with CA, you think it's all podunk towns, flat roads through dry boring scrub land, and suburbs with 6 lane residential roads. It's just disappointing not to see even close to the best CA has to offer... and yes, I'm not at all considering the logistics and political/monetary constraints of the race and host cities.

Agree with your last statement though, we'll take any precip we can at this point.
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Originally Posted by Leinster View Post
Great finish by Sagan, but the winning of the stage was the 4 or 5 places he gained diving up the inside in the last 2 turns.
Yup and he was flying, here is a onboard video of him.

On-bike footage of Peter Sagan's blistering win at the Tour of California (video) - Cycling Weekly
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Cav is on fire!
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Cav thinking " on the isle of Man this is a normal spring day" holy crap that would have been some miserable riding
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Cav thinking " on the isle of Man this is a normal spring day" holy crap that would have been some miserable riding
C'mon, you know the words!

[h=2]It Never Rains In Southern California!!!![/h]By Albert Hammond

Got on board a westbound seven forty-seven
Didn't think before deciding what to do
Ooh, that talk of opportunities, TV breaks and movies
Rang true, sure rang true...
Seems it never rains in southern California
Seems I've often heard that kind of talk before
It never rains in California, but girl, don't they warn ya?
It pours, man, it pours
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Out of self respect, I'm out of bread
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God I am so fricken sick of NBCSN covering this race!!! Supposed to be on right now, and instead it's international hockey. If not that, it would be some old meathead hockey players sitting around TALKING about hockey. This channel SUCKS! Why do they even bother carrying the race? Just give it up to Universal Sports. Their non-coverage is disgusting. And yes... I know, DVR the afternoon coverage, etc, but if they are scheduled to show it at night, THEN SHOW IT AT NIGHT! F* that channel!
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Steephill.tv for everything. they put up the last 10km for every stage if you can't watch it there live. For ToC i've been putting the video from the Amgen site and the sound from Eurosport. Slight delay but it is close enough for all but the finish.

I haven't listened to Paul and Phil's babble in years. Eurosport announcers and color commentators actually know the riders, know the racing and have interesting things to say during the middle miles that don't involve what church or windmill is on the side of the road.
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at least we have Jensie to entertain
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God I am so fricken sick of NBCSN covering this race!!! Supposed to be on right now, and instead it's international hockey. If not that, it would be some old meathead hockey players sitting around TALKING about hockey. This channel SUCKS! Why do they even bother carrying the race? Just give it up to Universal Sports. Their non-coverage is disgusting. And yes... I know, DVR the afternoon coverage, etc, but if they are scheduled to show it at night, THEN SHOW IT AT NIGHT! F* that channel!
Paul and Phil are terrible, well Paul is OK but Phil needs to retire. He said Cav was nowhere to be seen and I'm like, wtf he's about to win????

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Steephill.tv for everything. they put up the last 10km for every stage if you can't watch it there live. For ToC i've been putting the video from the Amgen site and the sound from Eurosport. Slight delay but it is close enough for all but the finish.

I haven't listened to Paul and Phil's babble in years. Eurosport announcers and color commentators actually know the riders, know the racing and have interesting things to say during the middle miles that don't involve what church or windmill is on the side of the road.
Yup, steephill and eurosport, that's how I usually watch races, but when I can't watch live, I have to set dvr and watch NBC ****ty coverage.
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Are you happy NOW Tinkov?
Man, Sagan was all over that TT!

You could visibly see that he was pedaling harder and in a bigger gear than everyone else. He just flat-out looked faster than anyone out there today. I had no idea he could TT like that.

Anyone think he can win this thing?
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There's a few pure climbers a minute or so back, who really should be able to put 2 minutes into Sagan on the Mt Baldy stage. But I'd love to see him hang on to the lead. F U Tinkov!
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Paul and Phil are terrible, well Paul is OK but Phil needs to retire. He said Cav was nowhere to be seen and I'm like, wtf he's about to win????
That's part of Phil's appeal. If I were still in college I'd play a drinking game where you had to drink every time Phil made a mistake, but I can't put away the beers like that anymore.
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That's part of Phil's appeal.
Rock on Phil and Paul!

Naysayers be damned!


You guys are the deans of cycling. The doctors of cycling! You bring a simple, fun, campy call to the races. Yes, some of us like to hear about the great cathedrals and castles! No need to complicate what is a simple sport with stats, tech, and social media non sense! You guys keep it easy and breezy. Your voices relax, and you only raise them at the right times. You build the drama for us, and you don't pretend there's drama when there is none. You don't assault my senses with needless stats, you pick and choose them wisely. You keep me engaged. You guys are the voice of Le Tour!

May you guys never retire!
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