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Old 05-07-15, 12:48 PM
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Tour of California - Men & Women (spoilers)

Figured we be talking about the ToC soon, so . . .

I'm excited about the sprints, although sad to see Kittel has pulled out, we still have Cav, Sagan, Bos, Farrar, Goss at al. MTN really should get some fast men on the podium, here's hoping. GC looks pretty open with no dominant contendor - not like Wiggins last year. Looking forward to seeing Alaphillippe join the scrum for stages and maybe even GC?

This year we get a women's stage race, three days, a terrific move in my view. Hope we talk about that too, I think it will be live streamed (the TT) or VOD (the two other stages).
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I thought there were going to be spoilers! Did Cav win stage 1 in the future?
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I thought there were going to be spoilers! Did Cav win stage 1 in the future?
He did.
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Spoiler: Kittel didn't win stage 1. Or 2.
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Snowing in South Lake today. Miserable weather for the first stage of the women's race.
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Stage 1 for the women is a great course. It starts at Heavenly ski resort, descends to the lake, then circles the lake clockwise, and climbs back to the ski resort. There is a sharp short climb about 1/4 of the way around the lake at Emerald Bay, then a long climb in Nevada, about 3/4 of the way around, and finally the kick up to Heavenly. It is about 75 miles around the lake. I see they expect to do it in 3.5 hours, which blows me away. I rode around the lake a few years ago, it took us 4:50 ride time, on mountain bikes. Starts 11 am PST tomorrow Friday.
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We have friends on the Axeon team - will root for them. No Horner still bugs me.

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Was on a solo ride, last night, on the ARBT (Sacramento MUP), when a Team Sky dude flew past. I started to turn around and chase him down for a chat, then I remembered the laws of physics and let him go. : )

A bit later, another Sky rider taking a lane on a busy road, team car in tow.

Tomorrow should be fun on the MUP, as the teams whiz up and down, in full kits and road bikes.
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Cavendish wins the stage 1 sprint and wasn't really challenged that I could see - although watching the last few km was weird because the on-screen graphic was in miles (funny how something like that throws you off) and because there were too many trees for a decent helicopter shot (not something often encountered in European city finishes). Sagan was on Cavendish's wheel at 200 m and took second. Perhaps Tinkov is fuming but you can't expect Sagan to come around an on form Cavendish in a flat bunch sprint. Seems like evidence that Sagan is going pretty well, actually.
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it looked like cavendish had one last leadout man right before the sprint and all of sagan's guys fell back too soon. sagan was desperately trying to get behind cavendish and by the time he was ready to explode, it was over. good finish. the women's circuit race was pretty entertaining too.

one thing i love about going to these pro races are all the free stuff they give out. came home with 2 water bottles, a cap, some socks, tons of stickers and a crap-ton of samples (mostly jelly bellys haha) my jersey pockets were at capacity
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I'm really disappointed with MTN Qebecka's effort in this stage. On paper, they should be very strong, but in reality, they aren't and they weren't anywhere near the top 10 today in spite of being built for sprinters. Yeah, they had some mechanicals, but they had some time to recover, yet they didn't...

Sagan simply cannot compete with the best sprinters. He had no shot at Cav, who breezed to the finish and was barely out of breath. Not a big fan of Cav, but boy, the guy can get it done...

Talansky, a "pit bull"? Not to sure about that. More like fragile to me, both physically and mentally.

Once again, NBC/SN had a lot of annoying freeze-up's on their broadcast. Universal seems to get it right, why can't NBC/SN?
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Yeah NBCSN sucks and I agree with most of what you say except I am a big fan of the manx missile, glad to see him win. No way Sagan can beat him in a flat sprint. Did you see the interview with Sagan? I felt bad, like he didn't know how to say what he wanted in English, but the reporter asked him some dumb questions, like he's gonna bash his team owner. I hope Sagan gets a few wins to shut Tinkoff up.
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MTN came to the front at 5 miles (or km? WTF) and I never saw them again.
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The report on Talansky was that he had bad allergies. Riding through grasslands and a variety of agricultural settings probably didn't help.

Today's route was oddly very scenic despite being mostly farmland and river. You wouldn't think it would be very interesting, but it was.

Did anyone catch the ATOC feed on Snapchat?
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The report on Talansky was that he had bad allergies. Riding through grasslands and a variety of agricultural settings probably didn't help.

Today's route was oddly very scenic despite being mostly farmland and river. You wouldn't think it would be very interesting, but it was.

Did anyone catch the ATOC feed on Snapchat?
Bummer to see Talansky have to come out. He lives just up the road and if this was any kind of target race, he could (should?) have jumped over the hill and spent a few more training days in the valley. I guess that works in theory, but I assume he's got a pretty full plate as it is.
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You know, I think Sagan has as strong of a finishing kick as he ever had. To come so so close to Cavendish in the stage 2 bunch sprint, and Sagan not himself being a pure sprinter, is pretty impressive. I didn't see any of the MTN sprinters in the picture. I'm hopeful for Sagan to win a stage at this year's ToC. Maybe tomorrow, with the climbs along the way.
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You know, I think Sagan has as strong of a finishing kick as he ever had. To come so so close to Cavendish in the stage 2 bunch sprint, and Sagan not himself being a pure sprinter, is pretty impressive. I didn't see any of the MTN sprinters in the picture. I'm hopeful for Sagan to win a stage at this year's ToC. Maybe tomorrow, with the climbs along the way.
Cav was caught out a bit and had to come from behind. Sagan just couldn't hold him off. I think that's why it looked so close.

Farrar came in 8th in todays stage, same as yesterday. I mistakenly said he was out of the top 10 yesterday. MTN doesn't seem to have any leadout train, nor does it seem to know who it is riding for on any given day. So in reality, Farrar has done well to get two 8th place finishes in this confused mess. Bos is the one who has been nowhere in sight in these two stages...
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The report on Talansky was that he had bad allergies. Riding through grasslands and a variety of agricultural settings probably didn't help.
Allergies?

He's going to have to toughen up a lot if he ever wants to win a Grand Tour.

I officially take his nickname, "the pitbull", away...
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Cav was caught out a bit and had to come from behind. Sagan just couldn't hold him off. I think that's why it looked so close.

Farrar came in 8th in todays stage, same as yesterday. I mistakenly said he was out of the top 10 yesterday. MTN doesn't seem to have any leadout train, nor does it seem to know who it is riding for on any given day. So in reality, Farrar has done well to get two 8th place finishes in this confused mess. Bos is the one who has been nowhere in sight in these two stages...
Still a terrific performance by Sagan. At around 200 (?) the drapac rider (red) is leading out Sagan with Cavendish on Sagan's wheel. Cavendish comes around Sagan on the right. When Cavendish pulls even with Sagan, Sagan pulls around to the left and passes the Drapac rider. Sagan and Cavendish pass the Drapac rider together, pretty much even, then in the last 100 or so, Cavendish gets ahead by a foot and then throws his bike better to get maybe another foot. Yes, Cavendish won, and I suspect he might not have gone 100%, but Sagan came very close - very close against an in form Cavendish is pretty darned impressive!

Tomorrow is lumpy. I'm rooting for Sagan.

MTN needs fewer sprinters and more train engines.
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By the sounds of things, his crash yesterday has taken more out of Bos than MTN first thought. On the stage 2 commentary they were saying how on stage 1, Farrar went to lead Bos out, then looked around, and saw that Bos wasn't there and he just had to go for it himself. Maybe they need to reshuffle their train. Where have Ciolek and Goss been?

If Sagan's going to get to a finish without Cav, tomorrow's going to be the day, because the only other day with anything Cav can't get over, is Mt Baldy, which Sagan can't get over either. The question then is can the Tinkoffs reel in whatever other attacks go out tomorrow? The summit of Hamilton is 30+km from the finish, with another climb on the way down. There's no obvious GC contenders in the race, but if a Gesink or Dombrowski gets away before the top, they might hold the gap all the way.
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It's awesome to see some young americans doing well, I raced against both Robin Carpenter and Joe Dombrowski, tho they are way way younger than I, as a cat 3 I raced against them. Obviously they have way more talent than I!
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It's awesome to see some young americans doing well, I raced against both Robin Carpenter and Joe Dombrowski, tho they are way way younger than I, as a cat 3 I raced against them. Obviously they have way more talent than I!
Hey, you did more than most of us arm chair cyclists!

And who is John Murphy? Two stages, two 4th place finishes! That is some good stuff right there. Could he be the next great American sprinter we've been looking for?
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I was in Chico for the Old Goat ride over the weekend. On Monday I went with Steve O'Bryan and crew to Nevada City to catch the start of the second stage of the Amgen Tour of California.

I found my brother from another mother, frame builder Chris Kelly, and he immediately hung a backstage laminate on me. That allowed me inside the barriers, where I caught a photo of Mark Cavendish and Peter Sagan standing on the starting line. Mark Cavendish wears the leader jersey, and Peter Sagan wears the polka dot jersey. They seem to be exchanging pleasantries

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Great stage today, brilliant ride by Skujins to take the win. How hairy was that Hamilton descent?

I owe the organisers an apology; I may have suggested on another thread that this would be a boring ToC, but today's route was everything you could wish for in a stage race.

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Hey, you did more than most of us arm chair cyclists!

And who is John Murphy? Two stages, two 4th place finishes! That is some good stuff right there. Could he be the next great American sprinter we've been looking for?
Very nice to see, definitely up there against some of the best in the world.

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I was in Chico for the Old Goat ride over the weekend. On Monday I went with Steve O'Bryan and crew to Nevada City to catch the start of the second stage of the Amgen Tour of California.

I found my brother from another mother, frame builder Chris Kelly, and he immediately hung a backstage laminate on me. That allowed me inside the barriers, where I caught a photo of Mark Cavendish and Peter Sagan standing on the starting line. Mark Cavendish wears the leader jersey, and Peter Sagan wears the polka dot jersey. They seem to be exchanging pleasantries

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Awesome! I will be volunteering at worlds in Richmond, I hope to get some good photos like this. The TV coverage showed them chatting it up during the race.
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Great stage today, brilliant ride by Skujins to take the win. How hairy was that Hamilton descent?

I owe the organisers an apology; I may have suggested on another thread that this would be a boring ToC, but today's route was everything you could wish for in a stage race.
Yup today's stage was definitely exciting, the decent was definitely scary for some, the UHC rider couldn't stay on the road.
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