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Old 10-20-20, 01:06 PM
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Sep Koos. What a talent he is turning out to be....possibilities are endless.
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My wife asked me who was on my team. I said I went with Dumo as my main guy. Her reply: "he's such a nice lad, why did you do that to him?"
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opted to dial down the sprinter choice given the lack of opportunities in the race.
for climbers, came down to a choice of dani martinez/formolo vs woods/de la cruz for me. opted for the former, primarily because of the angliru.

not taking rogliç (or kuss) meant i could slide another decent climber onto the roster. looks they picked right back up from where they left off tho. i’ll need to cajole 1000 points + out of formolo to make that horrible decision less of an impact. early analysis: not likely.
Yeah, I was gonna go with just one sprinter (Bennett or Ackermann) but couldn't decide on which ...so took both. Maybe just maybe, they can finish 1-2 enough, getting max points in the sprint stages and justify it. Not sure if that's feasible, didn't feel like doing the math.
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Of course Martinez has already crashed, lucky for me a few of us picked him so we're all in this together! Seems to be quite the differences between all of our teams though for the most part.
How bad is Danny boy? Didn't see that he had withdrawn. Heard it was his foot?
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Yeah, I was gonna go with just one sprinter (Bennett or Ackermann) but couldn't decide on which ...so took both. Maybe just maybe, they can finish 1-2 enough, getting max points in the sprint stages and justify it. Not sure if that's feasible, didn't feel like doing the math.
Either that, or spin the wheel on breakaways. I took the same two.
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Yes I was weak in faith that he wouldn't match last years performance after the tour and his classics racing.

Dude how awesome is Dan Martin right now!?

Instant regrets: Pulling out carapaz, not believing in Roglic, thinking that either Woodsie or Martinez would be able to stay upright. Vivá la Vuelta!
I already regret not taking Carapaz. Came close, and changed at the last minute. Will bite me in the ass methinks.
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Not sure what's going on with his foot, can't find anything about it. He finished 4:29 down, bummer. Geeze though Woods was 18 minutes off So I guess it's all about stage wins for this GT huh? So much for my GC prospects though if I was serious I woulda stayed with carapaz. Or Dan Martin. Gosh how did I miss that? He wasn't looking great to the start of this truncated season but looks to be in form now!
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Either that, or spin the wheel on breakaways. I took the same two.
I thought maybe I'll get wild and go with Morkov, maybe I'll get some points and he'll get leeway for some of the less mountainous stages. Or he'll end up shepherding Bennett everywhere that's not a sprint stage.
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Not sure what's going on with his foot, can't find anything about it. He finished 4:29 down, bummer. Geeze though Woods was 18 minutes off So I guess it's all about stage wins for this GT huh? So much for my GC prospects though if I was serious I woulda stayed with carapaz. Or Dan Martin. Gosh how did I miss that? He wasn't looking great to the start of this truncated season but looks to be in form now!
I have faith that Dan Martin will fade. Don't kick yourself long term about that. I'm just glad Carapaz won the coin toss with Pinot.
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[QUOTE=USAZorro;21752507]I have faith that Dan Martin will fade. Don't kick yourself long term about that. I'm just glad Carapaz won the coin toss with Pinot.[/QUOTE]

you had to flip a coin on that decision? if pinot had been a 10, 12 or 14-pointer...okay, very attractive and priced to move. but a two-point difference (essentially even)?

danny martin at 8 points...definitely priced to move.

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Old 10-20-20, 07:21 PM
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I have faith that Dan Martin will fade. Don't kick yourself long term about that. I'm just glad Carapaz won the coin toss with Pinot.[/QUOTE]

you had to flip a coin on that decision? if pinot had been a 10, 12 or 14-pointer...okay, very attractive and priced to move. but a two-point difference (essentially even)?

danny martin at 8 points...definitely priced to move.
Well, Carapaz was a steal and a deal compared to Froome (whom it appears nobody but Israel start up is willing to take a chance on these days - and I bet Brailsford has some regrets about sending him there tonight). Pinot is psychologically fragile (Carapaz clearly isn't), but I still think Pinot's potential upside is immense - though hazardous to predict.

Dan Martin will ride himself into the ground within a week (historical pattern). Reap the benefits while you can. A fair choice if you are playing for points on a stray stage victory, but not the guy you put your eggs in a basket for, imo.
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danny martin at 8 points...definitely priced to move.
I think any of us could replace whomever is calling the shots at Israel Start up. The only rider on their squad (current or future) that I'd lobby to retain in their apparent roles is Dowsett (Martin's a keeper, but he ain't a GC contender, imo), and he's without a contract for next season at last report. They don't know beans in that organization.
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I think any of us could replace whomever is calling the shots at Israel Start up. The only rider on their squad (current or future) that I'd lobby to retain in their apparent roles is Dowsett (Martin's a keeper, but he ain't a GC contender, imo), and he's without a contract for next season at last report. They don't know beans in that organization.
can you imagine the résumés? it'd be awesome. "yeah...4th at paris-roubaix fantasy league 2016. 1st at tour de france 2017. 2nd at the giro 2018.
1st at scheldeprijs 2018. 3rd at milan-san remo 2019...
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can you imagine the résumés? it'd be awesome. "yeah...4th at paris-roubaix fantasy league 2016. 1st at tour de france 2017. 2nd at the giro 2018.
1st at scheldeprijs 2018. 3rd at milan-san remo 2019...
You have no idea how awesome I'd be at this... or managing a team in the English Premier League.

Seriously though. Whomever they have doing the planning and hiring is delusional.
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stage two...looks like fun with 17 downhill twisty miles to finish off of the last summit. stage two...vlasov ftw altho nieve is my second choice and tejay (yes tejay) is my third choice.
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You have no idea how awesome I'd be at this... or managing a team in the English Premier League.

Seriously though. Whomever they have doing the planning and hiring is delusional.
hired. submit your salary history and particulars...
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hired. submit your salary history and particulars...
I presume that not requiring clandestine Jiffy bag deliveries would weigh in my favor?
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^a twenty-spot and a well-chosen bottle of red/white rhône, red/white burgundy or red bordeaux goes a looong way...
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Well, Carapaz was a steal and a deal compared to Froome (whom it appears nobody but Israel start up is willing to take a chance on these days - and I bet Brailsford has some regrets about sending him there tonight). Pinot is psychologically fragile (Carapaz clearly isn't), but I still think Pinot's potential upside is immense - though hazardous to predict.

Dan Martin will ride himself into the ground within a week (historical pattern). Reap the benefits while you can. A fair choice if you are playing for points on a stray stage victory, but not the guy you put your eggs in a basket for, imo.
coming back from injury...he's had some pretty decent one-day and stage race/gt results over the years. i can see him fading. i can also see him finishing on the back half of the top-12.
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can you imagine the résumés? it'd be awesome. "yeah...4th at paris-roubaix fantasy league 2016. 1st at tour de france 2017. 2nd at the giro 2018.
1st at scheldeprijs 2018. 3rd at milan-san remo 2019...
There have been glory days. But not in 2020. Now this. Even Tom. He used to be such a nice lad.

Maybe Zulko or USAZorro will hire us to fill bidons.

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Movistar make local knowledge work for them on Stage 2.
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There have been glory days. But not in 2020. Now this. Even Tom. He used to be such a nice lad.

Maybe Zulko or USAZorro will hire us to fill bidons.

hahaha!
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There have been glory days. But not in 2020. Now this. Even Tom. He used to be such a nice lad.

Maybe Zulko or USAZorro will hire us to fill bidons.

Legit almost spit and coughed on my soda, well done! Oof despondent is right though, 9 minutes back today ... Of course I had already forgotten I'd picked him. Argh are there any TTs this Vuelta?
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It's turning into a horse race.

11 km to go: Ponies join the Stage 2 break (2020/vuelta-a-espana)
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