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Movistar-Least Expected Day - Netflix Season 2


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Haven't watched it yet. After Season 1, I'm surprised the team management greenlighted a sequel. Are they hoping they'll come off better the second time around?

Will have to watch and find out.

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Cool a second season! Thanks for the heads-up.
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and this is as good a place as any to yet again marvel at Valverde. Though he's not winning races this year, its unbelievable how frequently he's finishing with the front bunch.
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and this is as good a place as any to yet again marvel at Valverde. Though he's not winning races this year, its unbelievable how frequently he's finishing with the front bunch.
Well, would you look at that....
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Well, would you look at that....
Not an easy win either! Outsprinted Kuss, Tao on an uphill finish!
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My wife that doesn't even ride a bike picks up on the fact that 41 years of age, Valverde puts a lot of younger riders to shame. For years we have both wondered when will he start to be just the old codger in there just because of past glory.
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Finally binge watched both seasons one and two, it was great! I think the series is partially internally produced? They showed the "communications director" a few times, then in an episode where Arrieta loses his cool and wipes the go-pro footage the communications director makes a statement about ruining his work.

The riders are a a little cagey about the cameras, some like Valverde or Soler are pretty out going and seem comfortable about it. Others were a bit more cagey - Carlos Verona seemed to choose all his sentences carefully. Quintana is very guarded, something you pickup on but it really shows here.

I have a deeper understanding and respect for Quintana. I don't know what's happened in his life but that guy is a soldier. Also the GM and DS's are still very friendly with him after he sent to Arkea. Don't be surprised to see Quintana back at movistar now that Landa and Valverde are gone (going).

José Rojas told Dan Martin he would "take him to the ground and fix those teeth" after Rojas slipped in a corner, believing Dan caused it. When Rojas told his movistar teammates this on the bus, Rojas commented that he told Dan this when they were getting untangled but he said it in Spanish. At which point one of the teammates comments " Oh no Dan speaks Spanish, perfect Spanish"

There is some bad blood between movistar and Carapaz I don't care how much they tried to deny it. In the first season he was ripped into by one of the DS. Then Mas and Soler pull Roglic in the Vuelta. The Spanish broadcasting team just eviscerated movistar while this was going on. Mas tried playing it off about Martin fading and maybe getting fourth but the Spanish commentators were ridiculing them about screwing over Carapaz just for an off chance in the minor placings.

I never realized how much information is constantly relayed to riders from the DS in the car. There were many instances of earphones not working at, um, critical times! There's a couple parts (might be split between episodes) where Landa, Valverde and Quintana all talk about the radios not working somehow. It's hilarious because Quintana has this wry look on his lips while talking about it. Quintana was POed about how that all went down during the Tour.
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I'm finally getting round to watching the second season. It's worth my time, but I found the 1st season more interesting. Movistar had a much better year in 2019 than 2020, and the drama included as many highs and lows. 2020 was at best a rebuilding year for them, and there's too much about the riders being unhappy with one another or miserable on the bike.

Also, the flaws in the narrative style were more evident. There are lots of sequences in which you have to know what happened on the road, without them telling you so much. Too much of the footage is of the directors in the car and not the riders on the road.
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I'm finally getting round to watching the second season. It's worth my time, but I found the 1st season more interesting. Movistar had a much better year in 2019 than 2020, and the drama included as many highs and lows. 2020 was at best a rebuilding year for them, and there's too much about the riders being unhappy with one another or miserable on the bike.

Also, the flaws in the narrative style were more evident. There are lots of sequences in which you have to know what happened on the road, without them telling you so much. Too much of the footage is of the directors in the car and not the riders on the road.
I assume that's RCS and ASO licensing fees behind that.

I've only watched the first few episodes. It's amazing how little Spanish I remember. Caramba.

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looking forward to watching season 2 after le tour de france is over.
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I'm always amazed to hear the Movistar directors in the team cars constantly screaming in the microphone to the riders. But I suppose it's not as constant as they make it seem with editing.

Or is it?

Glad Movistar gave us an inside glimpse at their goings on. I'd love it if they continue to do so or other teams do similar.
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I'm always amazed to hear the Movistar directors in the team cars constantly screaming in the microphone to the riders. But I suppose it's not as constant as they make it seem with editing.

Or is it?

Glad Movistar gave us an inside glimpse at their goings on. I'd love it if they continue to do so or other teams do similar.
Yeah, the yelling seems to be what they do best. OTOH, pre-race planning is not their strong suit.
Imagine being one of the riders out there suffering on the road. Do you think that screaming in the earpiece really helps them? I don't.

The team directors come off poorly in both seasons. As I've said before, I'm surprised they greenlighted the documentary.
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Cycling is no different than dance or acting. I'm sure the people in charge have all kinds of personality quirks.
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I'm always amazed to hear the Movistar directors in the team cars constantly screaming in the microphone to the riders. But I suppose it's not as constant as they make it seem with editing.

Or is it?

Glad Movistar gave us an inside glimpse at their goings on. I'd love it if they continue to do so or other teams do similar.
For little snippets of the action behind the race from Team Oz, go into steephill.tv, Tour pages, and watch the Backstage Pass clips for just about every stage. You can navigate back to prior years using the Tour '20 link in the sidebar and even further just by editing the URL (e.g. change 20 to 19 for the prior year)

Here's the latest. There have been better ones. Backstage Pass - Stage 2 (2021/tour-de-france)
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https://www.velonews.com/events/vuel...-stop-pulling/

Plenty of fodder for season 3. When it comes to drama, no other team comes close.
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They picked the right team for a series. lol
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https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mov...elta-a-espana/

Unzue always comes off badly. And The Least Expected Day couldn't exist without his assent, so he doesn't even know.
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It really is a bizarre Bravo-esque Real Housewives of Pamplona sort of thing.

Unzue's comments in that article touched on both sides of the coin about as even-handedly as one could without avoiding all substance, but they make it sound like that was all Lopez acting in a vacuum. I wonder what the action from the car was really like. Did they fail to put out the fire, or did they throw gasoline on a small spark?

Stay tuned.
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Management's story doesn't add up. First the word was that they didn't want Lopez to bring Bernal back up to the GC group. Now the story is that he was told to sit up because he wasn't able to bridge the gap. If the latter, the former isn't much of an issue. So it sounds like they thought that he was not going to be able to make contact, but that his efforts would let Bernal recover and then bridge?

I dunno. I can't see that they were risking that much by letting Lopez give it his all. He worked super-hard throughout the Vuelta, and to dispose of him that way on stage 20 was cruel.

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"Reports in the Spanish media suggest that Movistar could revisit the recent two-year contract extension the team signed with López before the start of the Vuelta in August."

https://www.velonews.com/events/vuel...act-extension/
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I don't rule out that Uzue could have a hand in exacerbating things, but the stuff I'm hearing with Erviti in the middle swings the pendulum, in my view from the sofa, toward Lopez having the bigger role in an epic hissy fit. That and the "ease off for JJ Rojas" angle carries more weight than what's leaking from the phone call to the wife and the friend's coach's hairdresser's cousin.

Amidst it all, that must have been some scene when MA stepped up afterwards to the team to apologize. Some variation of heroic, noble, or tragi-comic.

BTW, interesting to hear that Oscar Pereiro had a hand in designing the stage. No stranger to shaking up a grand tour.
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I don't rule out that Uzue could have a hand in exacerbating things, but the stuff I'm hearing with Erviti in the middle swings the pendulum, in my view from the sofa, toward Lopez having the bigger role in an epic hissy fit. That and the "ease off for JJ Rojas" angle carries more weight than what's leaking from the phone call to the wife and the friend's coach's hairdresser's cousin.

Amidst it all, that must have been some scene when MA stepped up afterwards to the team to apologize. Some variation of heroic, noble, or tragi-comic.

BTW, interesting to hear that Oscar Pereiro had a hand in designing the stage. No stranger to shaking up a grand tour.
I don't fully agree. Management should be the adults and they should be mindful that they are dealing with young, highly-strung, super-competitive riders who need some rewards for their excruciating efforts. Though it's true that there is friction between riders and management on other teams, Movistar has far more than its share. The fish rots from the head.
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I don't fully agree. Management should be the adults and they should be mindful that they are dealing with young, highly-strung, super-competitive riders who need some rewards for their excruciating efforts. Though it's true that there is friction between riders and management on other teams, Movistar has far more than its share. The fish rots from the head.
I don't fully disagree.

I guess what I am saying is that no matter how much we want to stack precedent and implication and rotten fish heads at Eusebio's feet while he bellows guiltily into the mic, compared to Dennis' hissy fit moment of yore, this is Miggylo doing a "Rohan, hold my beer" moment with aplomb.

I'm sure the weight of truth and evidence points more in one direction than another. Not so sure we'll ever know. I'm just prognosticating from the press releases, not pardoning or convicting anyone. It seems there could be enough blame to go around a few laps. Shades of grey. Neither one was an adult and it is a matter of which one was the bigger spoiled kid.
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He's a perfect example of the long-lasting effects of doping earlier in his career. Look at Rebellin, still at it at 50...
So cyclist that didn't dope in the past are in poor shape and can't ride well? I don't understand what you are saying? How does that prove anything? Sounds like you just aren't the forgiving type.
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There's zero evidence that EPO doping has decadal positive effects. EPO increases your red blood cell count - temporarily. Testosterone (not Valverde's dope of choice as far as we know) may be different - maybe not.

The drug of choice for cyclists over the past decade has been EPO, and it paints a grimmer long-term picture. EPO appears to produce no structural improvements even in the short run. It does not affect capillary density, muscle size, or muscle fiber type. It does not produce the sort of benefits that last.
https://www.velonews.com/training/an...hancing-drugs/

This is an example of modern social media discourse. You get to make $hit up.

Tons of guys doped during Valverde's early years. Why are all the rest long-retired?
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