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Old 10-03-21, 08:54 PM
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It was exciting to watch. Both the Women and Men races were great. Well worth the wait.
E. Deignanís win was impressive. She truly dominated the field The menís was exciting to the very end. Three debutants fighting to the bitter end. Condolences to Gianni Moscon! The victory seemed to be so firmly in his grasp. ďComplimenti a Colbrelli e a tutta Italia ! ď
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Originally Posted by LeHibou View Post
E. Deignanís win was impressive. She truly dominated the field The menís was exciting to the very end. Three debutants fighting to the bitter end. Condolences to Gianni Moscon! The victory seemed to be so firmly in his grasp. ďComplimenti a Colbrelli e a tutta Italia ! ď
Lizzieís ride was impressive. She had the best performance by a British rider, male or female, in the last few years. Totally dominant.

The best moment in the menís race, in a race full of memorable moments, was the full display of emotions by Colbrelli. He laughed, he shouted, he cried. He was thoroughly Italian and it was great to watch. It has been a great year for Italian racers.
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So much to process! Sagan going down in that corner into 3ft of water would be terrible. I was really confused about Luke Rowe jumping into the front of the peloton on the arrenberg trench and causing pandemonium - but he released a video that told me to go, uh, deal with myself. Laporte shoe braking - not a typo!

Moscon getting caught out by the difference in tire pressure from a slow flat to a fresh tire. Cobble gobble!

Colbrelli - wow!

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At the same time, I'm happy for Colbrelli and disappointed on MvdP's behalf. MvdP did some heroic things in the last 80-90 km, only to come up short.
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Wow, so many spoilers. NBC station 212 didn't air it until late Sunday night so I haven't seen it yet!
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Wow, so many spoilers. NBC station 212 didn't air it until late Sunday night so I haven't seen it yet!
Sorry, but if you haven't watched it yet and don't want to read spoilers, you shouldn't be reading the thread.

There shouldn't be any spoilers in thread titles.

inside threads, that's on you.
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Both the Femmes and Hommes races were some of the best TV viewing I've ever seen.
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At the same time, I'm happy for Colbrelli and disappointed on MvdP's behalf. MvdP did some heroic things in the last 80-90 km, only to come up short.
I think that MvdP was done in by the Hype Curse. He has been so over hyped over the last year or so that he was bound to be cursed. Yes, like most cyclists I am a bit superstitious.

Being featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated was a sure fire way to be cursed.
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MvdP has the same lack of tactical nous as Remco. They've managed to be successful by just being freakishly strong. And (not so) coincidentally, Colbrelli rolled both of them very recently, at the P-R and the Euro championships.
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Sorry, but if you haven't watched it yet and don't want to read spoilers, you shouldn't be reading the thread.

There shouldn't be any spoilers in thread titles.

inside threads, that's on you.
I agree BUT as a courtesy to our fellow cyclists a note about spoilers, on the title, would be nice.

BTW, in another breaking news, the Titanic hit an iceberg and sank.

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MvdP has the same lack of tactical nous as Remco. They've managed to be successful by just being freakishly strong. And (not so) coincidentally, Colbrelli rolled both of them very recently, at the P-R and the Euro championships.
I agree, though I'd say that Remco has it worse.
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MvdP has the same lack of tactical nous as Remco. They've managed to be successful by just being freakishly strong. And (not so) coincidentally, Colbrelli rolled both of them very recently, at the P-R and the Euro championships.
Concur.

BTW, commentators on GCN (can't remember which ones) were talking about WVA having a bit of the opposite problem: tends to defend, needs to uncork it at some point.

MVDP rode the heck out of that race but Colbrelli must not have read his press release. Vermeesch, wow. Moscon, bad luck; karma?

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I agree BUT as a courtesy to our fellow cyclists a note about spoilers, on the title, would be nice.

BTW,the Titanic hit an iceberg and sank.
Nope. Would be stupid, frivolous, and indulgent. As a courtesy to humanity, what would be really nice is folks expecting less coddling. Particularly for Roubaix!!! A snowflake-free zone if there ever was one.

What the heck else is going to be in this thread?
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Originally Posted by slcbob View Post
Concur.

BTW, commentators on GCN (can't remember which ones) were talking about WVA having a bit of the opposite problem: tends to defend, needs to uncork it at some point.

MVDP rode the heck out of that race but Colbrelli must not have read his press release. Vermeesch, wow. Moscon, bad luck; karma?

Nope. Would be stupid, frivolous, and indulgent. As a courtesy to humanity, what would be really nice is folks expecting less coddling. Particularly for Roubaix!!! A snowflake-free zone if there ever was one.
What the heck else is going to be in this thread?
Watched thru Peacock - full race transmission - Awesome!
Not see thru GCN, I would 'echo' commentators - WVA's ride was perplexing (unless one accepts he's cooked from all his efforts from the Olympics, WC...)
He spent too much time 'behind' and was caught in too many problems which required chasing, He's been doing too much of "racing the probability to win". He just didn't have it when he should have put in the effort.
In contrast, Vermeesch made the efforts when it mattered, he had his let-down' moments, but fought thru and made junctions and closed small gaps when it was important.
He was the most impressive to me... Especially given his 'All for the win' in the final Kms !!!
MVDP did great, given his early 'softness'. He collected himself and made the efforts. Being as heavily marked as he was, certainly by Colbrelli, I'm surprised he didn;t drag more riders with him....
Colbrelli - rode ok, but rode smart by being MVDP's shadow - I don;t think he would have made it to the front on his own... But that;s racing...
Moscon - 'karma' ? I do believe our own tendency to put ourselves into 'situations' is a strong force, but not the only force. Flats or mechanicals are bummers. I was surprised how much 'focus' he lost for a considerable time after the bike swap. But I get it... when you are 'taken' out of the 'zone', even for just a little bit, it really takes some effort to get back into the zone.
When you get a course induced flat - then you're suddenly aware of riding to avoid another flat - and lose that 'all-in' focus from before...
I felt for Moscon...
Great Race !!!! Vermeesch was my 'Rider of the Day'!
Ride On
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Wow, almost a demolition derby!

I just got a chance to watch last night (Tuesday). I'm really happy I was able to keep away from spoilers as to the winner. But maybe that doesn't speak to well for how much cycling news is mentioned in the TV news coverage here in the States. I don't even remember Google suggesting any articles with headlines proclaiming the winner.

I noticed that several of the riders seemed to be flying off their bikes going into an already messed up muddy patch of roadside for their landing where someone else previously must have crashed. I guess that must have been where woman from their race took the same spill the day before.

How did the EF guy keep his jersey so clean? Rutsch I think was the guy. Maybe he was pulling more for his group in the wetter parts.
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Originally Posted by slcbob View Post
Concur.

BTW, commentators on GCN (can't remember which ones) were talking about WVA having a bit of the opposite problem: tends to defend, needs to uncork it at some point.

MVDP rode the heck out of that race but Colbrelli must not have read his press release. Vermeesch, wow. Moscon, bad luck; karma?



Nope. Would be stupid, frivolous, and indulgent. As a courtesy to humanity, what would be really nice is folks expecting less coddling. Particularly for Roubaix!!! A snowflake-free zone if there ever was one.

What the heck else is going to be in this thread?
I sense much anger and fear in this one.

Peace out.
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Wow, almost a demolition derby!

I just got a chance to watch last night (Tuesday). I'm really happy I was able to keep away from spoilers as to the winner. But maybe that doesn't speak to well for how much cycling news is mentioned in the TV news coverage here in the States. I don't even remember Google suggesting any articles with headlines proclaiming the winner.

I noticed that several of the riders seemed to be flying off their bikes going into an already messed up muddy patch of roadside for their landing where someone else previously must have crashed. I guess that must have been where woman from their race took the same spill the day before.

How did the EF guy keep his jersey so clean? Rutsch I think was the guy. Maybe he was pulling more for his group in the wetter parts.
Yahoo News had many links to PR and the results. But I agree, there is generally far less coverage, and interest, in the USA.
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Colbrelli - rode ok, but rode smart by being MVDP's shadow - I don;t think he would have made it to the front on his own... But that;s racing...
Ummm...what? Cobrelli was already in the front group when MVDP bridged up, and had been one of the driving forces. Once MVDP got there, Cobrelli rode a much more savvy race, and was able to conserve a little better while MVDP (and his giant ego) drove the pace. I'm a big fan of MVDP and his aggressive style of racing, but he got out-played by Cobrelli, and it came down to Cobrelli being able to use is best weapon (sprint) when MVDP had nothing left. Bravo, Sonny!!
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
I sense much anger and fear in this one.

Peace out.
Excellent use of the passive aggressive.
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Excellent use of the passive aggressive.
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Ummm...what? Cobrelli was already in the front group when MVDP bridged up, and had been one of the driving forces. Once MVDP got there, Cobrelli rode a much more savvy race, and was able to conserve a little better while MVDP (and his giant ego) drove the pace. I'm a big fan of MVDP and his aggressive style of racing, but he got out-played by Cobrelli, and it came down to Cobrelli being able to use is best weapon (sprint) when MVDP had nothing left. Bravo, Sonny!!
Yeah, Colbrelli was totally worthy... Rode smart, then made best use of his sprint asset. Wasn't meaning to downplay his effort.
In acceptance of your correction. LOL!
I guess I was surprised how well Vermeesch responded, considering his time in the pro peleton and age. And MVDP gave a great try..
He tried to ride everyone off his wheel - pretty much worked ... except for 2 guys !
In recent times, Paris-Roubaix has surprised more than given a 'predictable' outcome - which makes it the awesome race it is.
And there were so many other riders who added to their story and the story of the race.
All the juice and excitement of a 21 day Grand Tour, packed into a one day race !
And, hopefully, it gets done again in 6 mos. time!
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Yeah, Colbrelli was totally worthy... Rode smart, then made best use of his sprint asset. Wasn't meaning to downplay his effort.
In acceptance of your correction. LOL!
I guess I was surprised how well Vermeesch responded, considering his time in the pro peleton and age. And MVDP gave a great try..
He tried to ride everyone off his wheel - pretty much worked ... except for 2 guys !
In recent times, Paris-Roubaix has surprised more than given a 'predictable' outcome - which makes it the awesome race it is.
And there were so many other riders who added to their story and the story of the race.
All the juice and excitement of a 21 day Grand Tour, packed into a one day race !
And, hopefully, it gets done again in 6 mos. time!
The magic of Paris-Roubaix is that it is unpredictable, and you need a healthy dose of luck to go along with a tremendous athletic performance. Moscon got the short end of things in the luck department, for sure. MVDP and Cobrelli aren't totally surprising, but Vermeesh sure was. I look forward to seeing what else he can do. I do expect MVDP to win P-R in the future. There's not doubt he has all the right tools.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
I sense much anger and fear in this one.

Peace out.
naaah. i'll vouch for my boy slcbob. he's like a giant inflatable pool floatie.
impressive but ultimately full of (hot) air. now me? i'm more like water wings.
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MvdP has the same lack of tactical nous as Remco. They've managed to be successful by just being freakishly strong. And (not so) coincidentally, Colbrelli rolled both of them very recently, at the P-R and the Euro championships.
agreed for the most part. strength can cover up tactics unless someone plays things perfectly combined with nearly the same strength.
colbrelli was solid and just barely missing the last few years. now colbrelli has put it all together and has excellent sprints/classics range. the bridesmaid syndrome is over for him-for now. tons of quality
competition in the races he competes in.
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I was watching the highlights a member posted in General. Seemed to be a lot of hydroplaning going on.

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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
I agree BUT as a courtesy to our fellow cyclists a note about spoilers, on the title, would be nice.

BTW, in another breaking news, the Titanic hit an iceberg and sank.
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Concur.

BTW, commentators on GCN (can't remember which ones) were talking about WVA having a bit of the opposite problem: tends to defend, needs to uncork it at some point.

MVDP rode the heck out of that race but Colbrelli must not have read his press release. Vermeesch, wow. Moscon, bad luck; karma?



Nope. Would be stupid, frivolous, and indulgent. As a courtesy to humanity, what would be really nice is folks expecting less coddling. Particularly for Roubaix!!! A snowflake-free zone if there ever was one.

What the heck else is going to be in this thread?

Wow. I'm just here to have a little fun.
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