Lance's official farewell message.
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Lance's official farewell message.
Did he make one at the final ceremony or will he make one somewhere else?
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Here is a small portion of it...
"Finally, the last thing I'll say for the people who don't believe in cycling -- the cynics, the skeptics -- I'm sorry for you, I'm sorry you can't dream big and I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. But this is one hell of a race, this is a great sporting event and you should stand around and believe." - Lance Armstrong
"Finally, the last thing I'll say for the people who don't believe in cycling -- the cynics, the skeptics -- I'm sorry for you, I'm sorry you can't dream big and I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. But this is one hell of a race, this is a great sporting event and you should stand around and believe." - Lance Armstrong
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you'd think with 7 years to think about it he could of come up with something better. i also think it would have been nice if he at least tried to thank the french in their own language.
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Originally Posted by Surferbruce
you'd think with 7 years to think about it he could of come up with something better. i also think it would have been nice if he at least tried to thank the french in their own language.
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Lance says 'hell' alot.
7 years racing in France and millions of dollars and he couldn't have taken some private french lessons somewhere along the line?
7 years racing in France and millions of dollars and he couldn't have taken some private french lessons somewhere along the line?
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Lance would have help endear the french people if he made a sentiment in French. Albeit just a small phrase.
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Originally Posted by georgiaboy
Lance would have help endear the french people if he made a sentiment in French. Albeit just a small phrase.
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Originally Posted by kubla khan
7 years racing in France and millions of dollars and he couldn't have taken some private french lessons somewhere along the line?
He routinely does French interviews.
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Originally Posted by kubla khan
He said "vive le tour"... LOL
A couple more words and I would have confused Lance with Gerard Depardieu.
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He speaks French but now says he's hesitant to do so because the French press are quick to pick up on any linguistic mistake he makes and have at times used that to poke fun at him.
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I thought he could have had something prepared in French. But where he really messed up was in not having something prepared to say about Basso and Ullrich. He really put his foot in it. Either prepare something to say, or don't say anything at all, because it is a rare person who can ride 2,000+ miles in three weeks and then get up in front of millions at your retirement party and say something off the cuff that is deep and profound, let alone just comprehendible.
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This is just typical LA- he is NOT someone that is gifted with the ability to impromptu a speech. I thought it was fitting and though a bit stilted, it was appropriate. He had something to say about Basso and Ullrich, addressing Ullrich first and Basso second. I don't think anyone thought Hinault was going to shove a mic in front of LA, and when they did, he said a few words in honor of the Tour and the men standing aside him.
I don't blame him for not speaking french either if they typically took his remarks out of context too. Say it in english and let the french figure out how to translate it correctly, but at least if they misquote him, we all know what LA really said and he'll have the english media there to fight the battle and correct the misquote. You can only get burned so many times before you decide to something in a way that prevents the burn from happening again.
Again, when has LA gotten on television and NOT been prosaic? He's not that charismatic live... we all know that. I thought it was a perfectly acceptable speech that emphasized his retirement. It's the best he could do.
Besides, I hate scripted speeches. I think he probably would do worse with the script than if he just said what came from his heart and his head.
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I don't blame him for not speaking french either if they typically took his remarks out of context too. Say it in english and let the french figure out how to translate it correctly, but at least if they misquote him, we all know what LA really said and he'll have the english media there to fight the battle and correct the misquote. You can only get burned so many times before you decide to something in a way that prevents the burn from happening again.
Again, when has LA gotten on television and NOT been prosaic? He's not that charismatic live... we all know that. I thought it was a perfectly acceptable speech that emphasized his retirement. It's the best he could do.
Besides, I hate scripted speeches. I think he probably would do worse with the script than if he just said what came from his heart and his head.
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i liked his speech.if he spoke in French i wouldnt understand it
"this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it"
i like that line.
"this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it"
i like that line.
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Not at all a flame on anyone, but am I correct in understanding that we expect more in terms of intelligent speech discourse from an athlete than we do from the standing US President? After all, the President was re-elected... These priorities mystify me...
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Originally Posted by 97 Teran
Not at all a flame on anyone, but am I correct in understanding that we expect more in terms of intelligent speech discourse from an athlete than we do from the standing US President? After all, the President was re-elected... These priorities mystify me...
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I really idolize LA, and so I wish he could think on his feet a bit better. During extemporaneous interviews, I'm always cringing just a little bit at his awkwardness. I also was not thrilled with one of the earlier interviews with S. Crow.
At this point, he has the potential to make megabucks with endorsements. Since image is everything, maybe he needs more coaching to cope with the media.
At this point, he has the potential to make megabucks with endorsements. Since image is everything, maybe he needs more coaching to cope with the media.
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at this point LA has already made millions being just the way he is. i dont think being a better interview or public speaker would make him a "richer" man. later.
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In Sports Illustrated he's said a few times that he's all done with any attempt to suck up to the French press by speaking French or any other ploys. I think that's great. Were I a Frenchman willing to give him a fair shake, I'd be insulted at the idea that he thought he could win me over by speaking French, especially badly. I really doubt the French attitude could be changed by cynically sucking up that way.
Some of the French hate him, some of them don't care and a few love the guy. That's never going to change. Let him speak whatever language he wishes.
I don't know what anyone expected in terms of a "better" speech, either? Flowery flourishes? Rhetorical brilliance? That's not what the occasion called for, folks.
Some of the French hate him, some of them don't care and a few love the guy. That's never going to change. Let him speak whatever language he wishes.
I don't know what anyone expected in terms of a "better" speech, either? Flowery flourishes? Rhetorical brilliance? That's not what the occasion called for, folks.
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Originally Posted by Don Gwinn
I don't know what anyone expected in terms of a "better" speech, either? Flowery flourishes? Rhetorical brilliance? That's not what the occasion called for, folks.
When he started talking about the "cynics and the skeptics" I literally couldn't figure out what he was talking about. Maybe a reference to earlier accusations of using enhancing drugs? Not expecting captain of the Oxford debate team -- just something simple, logical, and heartfelt.
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Originally Posted by AlanS
When he started talking about the "cynics and the skeptics" I literally couldn't figure out what he was talking about. Maybe a reference to earlier accusations of using enhancing drugs? Not expecting captain of the Oxford debate team -- just something simple, logical, and heartfelt.
I think it is really cool the way he has talked about it. When he says how much he keeps up with cycling events that have little to no direct relevancy to him, and saying he will want to keep watching the sport and maybe even participating with a team as a non-rider. He could, but doesn't give off a bad hint by saying he doesn't really care to watch the sport... it would seem like 'this sport is tainted, and I'd rather not watch riders compete over who dopes the most'.
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Originally Posted by AlanS
At this point, he has the potential to make megabucks with endorsements. Since image is everything, maybe he needs more coaching to cope with the media.
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Originally Posted by Don Gwinn
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I don't know what anyone expected in terms of a "better" speech, either? Flowery flourishes? Rhetorical brilliance? That's not what the occasion called for, folks.
I don't know what anyone expected in terms of a "better" speech, either? Flowery flourishes? Rhetorical brilliance? That's not what the occasion called for, folks.
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LA is the best cyclist in the world right now (I know that is debatable) and I don't think having the gift of gab is a strong qualification for that crown. And for thinking on his feet, well just watch the chess game on most stages. Watch the patience, the diligence and the planned and well rehersed steps. He thinks well. That is one of the strong traits of Lance. Most of that effort was spent on the bike where it really counts.
As for Basso and Jan, LA extended enormouse respect for both riders many times during the past years, especially Jan. For Lance to repeatedly say than Jan is his most feared opponent is saying a ton.
You guys want a cycling hero or a politition?
As for Basso and Jan, LA extended enormouse respect for both riders many times during the past years, especially Jan. For Lance to repeatedly say than Jan is his most feared opponent is saying a ton.
You guys want a cycling hero or a politition?