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Old 07-24-23, 08:19 AM
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Just like the men's tour, but without the fans. Damn...
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I watched a bunch of it last year. Great racing, but they just didn't seem to have the same punching power/explosiveness, and poor bike handling was a thing.
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I imagine "nature breaks" can be difficult.
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I really like it! #WatchThe Femmes
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Old 07-24-23, 09:41 AM
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Should be pretty exciting this year with DV vs AVV in her final season.
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Yesterday's Peacock coverage was horrible for the Femmes, Phil acted like Megan Guariner wasn't there and constantly talked over or just kept asking "Bob, what do you think....".. I'm taking it Phil just isn't used to having a 3rd person on commentary. Bob to his credit tried to get Megan more involved in the commentary.

Thank goodness today they are using the international feed which is so much better.

And how could they think not starting in Paris was a good idea?

Edit: And having the last stage a TT???

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Last year was a blast.

Van Vlueten versus Vollering is a great narrative.

Vollering has been unbelievable all year.

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Originally Posted by dmanthree
Just like the men's tour, but without the fans. Damn...
Last year the audience was tremendous.
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GCN + has Dani Christmas Analyzing what’s not to like.

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Originally Posted by gpsblake
And having the last stage a TT???
The men's TdF will end with a TT next year.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
The men's TdF will end with a TT next year.
For real? After what happened to a Frenchman the last time they did that?
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Originally Posted by Shadco
GCN + has Dani Christmas Analyzing whats not to like.

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Agreed, but the roads are nearly empty. Which is a shame. Some good racing happening.
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Originally Posted by dmanthree
For real? After what happened to a Frenchman the last time they did that?
LOL - Valid point. That said, it's not like there are a lot of (or any) French riders that can even sniff at the podium right now.

Next year, the Olympics will be in Paris, so the traditional last stage on the Champs is out of the picture. The last stage will be a TT from Monaco to Nice.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
LOL - Valid point. That said, it's not like there are a lot of (or any) French riders that can even sniff at the podium right now.

Next year, the Olympics will be in Paris, so the traditional last stage on the Champs is out of the picture. The last stage will be a TT from Monaco to Nice.
For the women, it's the Dutch against the world, and the Dutch usually are crushing it.
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Originally Posted by dmanthree
For real? After what happened to a Frenchman the last time they did that?
It's a freak year for the TDF in 2024 as it doesn't end in Paris because of the Olympics but instead in Nice as a TT

Also looks like a sprinter has no chance of holding yellow next year because stage 1 is going to medium mountain stage starting in Italy

Now as an off topic thing, I would love to see the Olympics have a 8 day tour but with countries placing teams instead of professional teams.
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I'm new to watching pro cycling so please enlighten me. With the tour and olympics so close, does that make both less competetive as top riders are split between the two? Or will it mostly the classics riders that choose to hop over to olympics leaving gc and kom about the same?
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Originally Posted by Jughed
I watched a bunch of it last year. Great racing, but they just didn't seem to have the same punching power/explosiveness, and poor bike handling was a thing.

yes the bike handling is terrible on the women's tour ..every single race/stage is shockingly bad.
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Old 07-25-23, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric F
LOL - Valid point. That said, it's not like there are a lot of (or any) French riders that can even sniff at the podium right now.

Next year, the Olympics will be in Paris, so the traditional last stage on the Champs is out of the picture. The last stage will be a TT from Monaco to Nice.
Ah, right. I forgot about the Olympics. I wonder how many riders will opt for the Olympics instead of the Tour? If any...
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I watched it for 10 minutes then thought about how I just spent like 5 hours a day watching the tour for the last 3 weeks and nope'd the **** out.
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Originally Posted by DonkeyShow
I watched it for 10 minutes then thought about how I just spent like 5 hours a day watching the tour for the last 3 weeks and nope'd the **** out.
You've got to pace yourself, man. Some of us follow and watch the races all year round. I can do that b/c I seldom ever watch a full 5 hour race.

I think part of the success of the TdF Femmes has been because it comes right at the end of the TdF Hommes. People get excited and are paying attention and then afterwards there's a bit of a lull in the men's schedule. Perfect timing, IMHO.
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Stage 3 = nice stage at the end...
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There is a ton of symbiosis when the men and women races are run in similar venues and there can be a carryover of spectators, incidental viewership, resources, etc.

Just because the comparisons aren't always flattering does not mean they are unhelpful.
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The women seem, on the whole, rather conservative and cautious about burning matches. I sympathize because that's how I am, but it does make for somewhat unexciting TV. I wonder how much of this is due to uncertainty about the true performance envelope of female WT cyclists, among the athletes, coaches, and other authorities.
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To me it seems that even though NBC has exclusive in USA they don't care. it's not like they spent much in promoting it. I believe I heard it mentioned exactly once in the broadcast of the men's TdF.

I noticed that the women seem to need more practice and coaching on paceline dynamics. I do like watching.
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Originally Posted by trashbiker
I'm new to watching pro cycling so please enlighten me. With the tour and olympics so close, does that make both less competetive as top riders are split between the two? Or will it mostly the classics riders that choose to hop over to olympics leaving gc and kom about the same?
The top tour guys will prioritize the TdF and hope that their fitness carries over to the Olympics.
However, a lot of it depends on the nature of the Olympic course. If the course doesn't suit a certain style of cyclist, they, obviously won't target it.
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