Will Ullrich's 2005 3rd place be taken away?
08-08-06, 01:32 PM
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Will Ullrich's 2005 3rd place be taken away?
Originally Posted by cyclingnews.com
On the other hand, Dr. Werner Franke, German anti-doping crusader, assumed that Ullrich is guilty, and more importantly said that he was risking his life. After looking at the list of products which the German rider was alleged to have used during the 2005 Tour de France, Franke told Bild newspaper, "The substances in the medications are extremely dangerous. In the past it has been shown that these things can cause death or lead to serious health problems."
So, if it is proven that Ullrich actually used all those products during the 2005 Tour de France, will they take away his 3rd podium place and give it to... Mancebo???
What about Basso? Say he gets nailed too, and loses his 2nd place 2005 Tour finish as well as his 2006 Giro title? So what, Vino gets second and Levi 3rd?
Maybe not. They never bothered to rescind Rumsas' 3rd place in the 2002 Tour.
08-09-06, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Helmet Head
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...g06/aug08news2
So, if it is proven that Ullrich actually used all those products during the 2005 Tour de France, will they take away his 3rd podium place and give it to... Mancebo???
What about Basso? Say he gets nailed too, and loses his 2nd place 2005 Tour finish as well as his 2006 Giro title? So what, Vino gets second and Levi 3rd?
Maybe not. They never bothered to rescind Rumsas' 3rd place in the 2002 Tour.
So, if it is proven that Ullrich actually used all those products during the 2005 Tour de France, will they take away his 3rd podium place and give it to... Mancebo???
What about Basso? Say he gets nailed too, and loses his 2nd place 2005 Tour finish as well as his 2006 Giro title? So what, Vino gets second and Levi 3rd?
Maybe not. They never bothered to rescind Rumsas' 3rd place in the 2002 Tour.
08-09-06, 04:43 AM
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No... The riders did not test positive for those races so they would not lose their medals..... however I wonder how Basso and the Giro will turn out. It will depend if they can prove he has been using BEFORE and DURING the Giro.
The same with Floyd.... he may be stripped of the TDF victory but his other wins this year are safe.
The same with Floyd.... he may be stripped of the TDF victory but his other wins this year are safe.
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Originally Posted by EURO
Will Lance be stripped of his 1999 Tour?
Will every rider from 1903 be stripped of their victories? Nope... as long as you can get away with it you are the champion
Two races in bike racing... the race on the pavement and the race in the lab. You have to win both to be on the podium.
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Originally Posted by domestique
No... The riders did not test positive for those races so they would not lose their medals..... however I wonder how Basso and the Giro will turn out. It will depend if they can prove he has been using BEFORE and DURING the Giro.
The same with Floyd.... he may be stripped of the TDF victory but his other wins this year are safe.
The same with Floyd.... he may be stripped of the TDF victory but his other wins this year are safe.
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Good point meb, to which I'd add: remember, David Millar didn't test positive, and yet his ITT World Championship was stripped from him. Depending on what information is presented against him, and what he admits to upon seeing that information, Ullrich could still be penalized.
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Originally Posted by EURO
Will Lance be stripped of his 1999 Tour?
08-11-06, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by hombredebicycle
The way this is going Bobby Julich should end up winning the 98 Tour de France!!!!!
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Originally Posted by EURO
Will Lance be stripped of his 1999 Tour?
Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
My recollection is that the UCI regs have a limitations period for bringing charges of doping violations, that's now passed for the 1999 tour.
08-11-06, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Karlotta
Good point meb, to which I'd add: remember, David Millar didn't test positive, and yet his ITT World Championship was stripped from him. Depending on what information is presented against him, and what he admits to upon seeing that information, Ullrich could still be penalized.
Millar owned up and confessed. That was one of the main reasons it was stripped from him.
