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Old 07-06-08, 07:27 AM
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Did Versus stick it to Armstrong.

With their Take back the Tour theme, and the whole buildup at the beginning of yesterday's stage. Armstrong was conspicuously absent in the history part, and Lemond was prominently featured.

After mentioning LEmond, it was logical that the next step was to mention Armstrong's 7 wins, but they didn't breath his name in the piece.

The piece left a very clear negative implication.
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Fortunately for the Tour, an exciting finish, as we had with Stage 1, eclipses even the stupidest marketing.
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It's not just Landis. Look at all the cyclists they taped. They all had drug/test issues, hence, taking back the tour.
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What if a bunch of riders get busted, hardly taking back the tour then is it. It's just a poor media campaign.
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Who is this tool that replaced Al Trautwig?
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Versus just signed an extension to broadcast the TdF... Do you think they're going to do anything to piss off the ASO?
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Hummer. He's a bit of a weenie. From the PBR circuit or something.

He deserves a fair shake....just not from us.
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Originally Posted by 2wheeled View Post
It's only the first stage ...you think you guys are going to make it to the mountains
The riders have to keep going for 3 weeks, and you want to abandon the tour just because of some commercials?

A DVR is absolutely invaluable when watching the tour.
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Old 07-06-08, 09:51 AM
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Can you name all the guys in that tape?
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wasn't he that astronaut guy?
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If VS was told NOT to mention Lance, even though he holds a very prominent place in the history of the Tour, then the the ASO are trying to rewrite history to fit THEIR agenda. Look. They tried and tried to prove he was cheating. They never did. Drop it and move on. Acting like he never existed is childish and transparent.
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sorry, I guess I'm slow
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Especially since they just reinstated Riis' win.
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So ... what you're saying is the French are a bunch of ASOs ?
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
With their Take back the Tour theme, and the whole buildup at the beginning of yesterday's stage. Armstrong was conspicuously absent in the history part, and Lemond was prominently featured.

After mentioning LEmond, it was logical that the next step was to mention Armstrong's 7 wins, but they didn't breath his name in the piece.

The piece left a very clear negative implication.

Versus evidently stuck it to the verbose Al Trautwig!
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Originally Posted by Bontrager View Post
Who is this tool that replaced Al Trautwig?
A tool, but a welcome tool imho....which brings us back to why we're hearing less about Lance....Al's departure means a 90% reduction in the mentions of Lance's name...

fwiw, I've heard Lance mentioned plenty...as is fitting. But there are other cyclists in the world.
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Originally Posted by Laggard View Post
Lance was never a patron of cycling the way Merckx and Hinault were and are. He raced two months of the year, won a heck of a lot of TDFs and that was it. More than any major star, he didn't have that connection to cycling history, lore or mystique.

I'm amazed that anyone is the slightest bit surprised that he's chosen to stay away from cycling.
No one has done more to increase the exposure of cycling than Lance Armstrong. The amount of money generated from Armstrong's name alone puts him in a class of his own. For better or worse, the cycling industry would not be what it is today without Armstrong, and that includes the Tour.

Regardless of whether you like Armstrong or not, his contribution to the cycling world is unparalleled. Armstrong is the Tiger Woods of bicycling, plain and simple. Lance Armstrong is a household name, Eddy Merckx (despite his greatness) is not.
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Old 07-06-08, 01:33 PM
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I also think this "take back the tour" nonsense is a load of crap. I'd bet that the doping scandals have increased interest in the Tour, and all this BS about tarnishing the Tour's reputation is just public posturing. People thrive on drama and tragedy, and last year's Tour was exactly that.

Like everything else in this world, especially sports, whatever generates revenue is what matters. Controversy is a good thing in this sense, and thus a clean Tour is not good for generating revenue. We just love watching train wrecks...

Admit it. We're all looking for the type of drama we saw last year. Our inflated sense of the self in contrast to our actual behavior is the real mystery here.

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Originally Posted by botto View Post
He works for ASO during the Tour. Duh.


btw - There's only one rider who won more than Hinault, and his name isn't Armstrong.


You are whistling in the wind. The cult is in full bloom.

The TdF is the only race

Greg LeMond deserves no recognition for anything b/c he and Lance Armstrong don't get along (to put it mildly ).

Bernard Hinault is just some old guy that never could've hung with Armstrong

Who's this Eddy Merckx guy? Well he won alot of races but I've never heard of all but one of them and Lance won more TdFs than him anyways.

Nobody in the US rode a roadbike prior to 1999.

The TdF was completely insignificant as a sporting event until it was "discovered" by Lance Armstrong in 1999.



Thing is I admire Armstrong's accomplishments and really respect his cancer work but his cult is irritating.




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Originally Posted by Malthus View Post
I also think this "take back the tour" nonsense is a load of crap. I'd bet that the doping scandals have increased interest in the Tour, and all this BS about tarnishing the Tour's reputation is just public posturing. People thrive on drama and tragedy, and last year's Tour was exactly that.

Like everything else in this world, especially sports, whatever generates revenue is what matters. Controversy is a good thing in this sense, and thus a clean Tour is not good for generating revenue. We just love watching train wrecks...

Admit it. We're all looking for the type of drama we saw last year. Out inflated sense of the self in contrast to our actual behavior is the real mystery here.
And yet, spectatorship and television ratings for the Tour have declined in the last two years. Hmmm.
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And yet, spectatorship and television ratings for the Tour have declined in the last two years. Hmmm.
Perhaps. Cite your sources...
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I'll answer my own request. A NYTimes article attributes the "Lance effect" as being responsible for the decline, which addresses my earlier post. It's not the doping that's generating the decline...
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