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Old 07-04-09, 04:48 PM
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My husband and I had a side bet on where Armstrong would finish in the prologue. The loser pays for tonite's dinner. After much anguish on his part, his guess was 4th and mine was 10th.

The grilled chicken with onions and mushrooms was particulary good tonite!
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Just curious, but how many times in sports history have we seen "dream teams" completely disintegrate? Very curious to see how Astana will really do when/if egos need stroking and chest need pounding.....
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Originally Posted by Tsuru
Just curious, but how many times in sports history have we seen "dream teams" completely disintegrate? Very curious to see how Astana will really do when/if egos need stroking and chest need pounding.....
Look no further than T-Mobile a few years back. Ulrich, Kloden, Vinokourov, Julich, Botero, Zabel it looked great on paper, but they still couldn't beat LA.

That being said, Contador looks really strong, he may not need all of Astana to help him out, we'll see.
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I really dont see Astana staying together much longer with the present cast of characters. Three guys who all should have a chance to win and there can only be one leader. Its a great team but it will eventually be divided against itself.
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Originally Posted by GGDub
Look no further than T-Mobile a few years back. Ulrich, Kloden, Vinokourov, Julich, Botero, Zabel it looked great on paper, but they still couldn't beat LA.

That being said, Contador looks really strong, he may not need all of Astana to help him out, we'll see.
And the yankees and I think a few basketball teams and.....
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Originally Posted by Tsuru
Just curious, but how many times in sports history have we seen "dream teams" completely disintegrate? Very curious to see how Astana will really do when/if egos need stroking and chest need pounding.....
True, true.

Originally Posted by GGDub
Look no further than T-Mobile a few years back. Ulrich, Kloden, Vinokourov, Julich, Botero, Zabel it looked great on paper, but they still couldn't beat LA.

That being said, Contador looks really strong, he may not need all of Astana to help him out, we'll see.
He def smoked that TT today. The team adds so much defense though, can the peloton disrupt it?

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Very cool pic of Cancellara IMHO:

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The amount of commercials in the prime time re air on versus is crazy.
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anyone have uploaded or willing to upload the coverage of this stage? I loved the support that the Giro saw from a couple of guys uploading daily. I have no access to versus and am gone in the mornings when they air it anyway.
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Sorry if this has already been asked, but what about Kloden? Was his time special or not? I don't know much about Kloden and not sure how well he TT's.
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What was up with Cancellara taking a bottle (aerodynamic equivalent of a boat anchor)?

You have an awesome TT bike then put on a bottle for just a 20 min ride.

Didn't look like anyone else had a bottle, at least not on the frame.

Not that it cost him the win, but it certainly cost a few seconds.
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Originally Posted by roadgator
What was up with Cancellara taking a bottle (aerodynamic equivalent of a boat anchor)?

You have an awesome TT bike then put on a bottle for just a 20 min ride.

Didn't look like anyone else had a bottle, at least not on the frame.

Not that it cost him the win, but it certainly cost a few seconds.
You never know, bottle could have been on purpose to put the bike at UCI weight limit. Im sure if you can pick up on that, he might have given it a thought
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Surprised Lance slipped back so far. 10th spot, hope the imbecile shuts up now.
Paul and Phill need to get off Levi and Lances shaft.
riiiight when has lance said anything other than if contador is the #1 rider on July 4th I will be the best domestique I can possibly be?

phil and paul support lance because 99% of the people who watch Versus are Americans who have only heard about cycling because of him...


Originally Posted by roadgator
What was up with Cancellara taking a bottle (aerodynamic equivalent of a boat anchor)?

You have an awesome TT bike then put on a bottle for just a 20 min ride.



Didn't look like anyone else had a bottle, at least not on the frame.

Not that it cost him the win, but it certainly cost a few seconds.
it has been proven on some bike frames in wind tunnel testing that a bottle is MORE aero than without.

you really think the TT KING isn't going to test that out?

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Originally Posted by roadgator
What was up with Cancellara taking a bottle (aerodynamic equivalent of a boat anchor)?

You have an awesome TT bike then put on a bottle for just a 20 min ride.

Didn't look like anyone else had a bottle, at least not on the frame.

Not that it cost him the win, but it certainly cost a few seconds.
if Cancellara does it, i would do it too.
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Originally Posted by roadgator
What was up with Cancellara taking a bottle (aerodynamic equivalent of a boat anchor)?

You have an awesome TT bike then put on a bottle for just a 20 min ride.

Didn't look like anyone else had a bottle, at least not on the frame.

Not that it cost him the win, but it certainly cost a few seconds.
As stated it is said that the some frame and rider combos are more aero with a bottle on the down tube than without.

On that note, clearly you did not notice, but anyone have any input on why Sastre wasn't using the P4 issue water bottle? Did I miss some note in the UCI rules that makes that bottle illegal?
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