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Old 07-19-09, 09:15 AM
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There, any speculation is over (spoiler alert)

Dropped like a bag of wet sand.
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Old 07-19-09, 09:18 AM
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Contador is amazing. I'm sure he is the leader of Astana now. LA is still at #2.

Wiggins is really surprising - he is a revelation!
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I still think all that controversy with LA was race tactic prepping for AC's launch today.
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Cue up the fanboy exodus...
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Originally Posted by JoelS View Post
I still think all that controversy with LA was race tactic prepping for AC's launch today.
+1 its called keep them guessing and ride hard.


Still a top ten finish, at age thirty seven is not exactly dropped like a bag of wet sand when he still stays in the number 2 spot.
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Old 07-19-09, 09:32 AM
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The big question is, should there have ever been any speculation?
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Old 07-19-09, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by monosierra View Post
Contador is amazing. I'm sure he is the leader of Astana now. LA is still at #2.
The Contador/Armstrong leadership drama was a ploy for needed vigor to a pretty meandering first half of the tour. Their rivalry seems almost contrived, meant to play upon the jealous viewership of American audiences.
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Old 07-19-09, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by enigmagic View Post
The Contador/Armstrong leadership drama was a ploy for needed vigor to a pretty meandering first half of the tour. Their rivalry seems almost contrived, meant to play upon the jealous viewership of American audiences.
Do you think it was tactics from the start? I think so too.
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Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
The big question is, should there have ever been any speculation?
If you've actually been following cycling for the past few years since LA left, NO. I'm really surprised at how many people that didn't realize how good Contador is.

The real rivalry to come with be Contador v A. Schleck.
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Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
The big question is, should there have ever been any speculation?
No. It has been obvious from the start.
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Old 07-19-09, 09:36 AM
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Not a fanboy here.... But.....

2nd place, after 15 stages, to a man 10 years younger. 3 years off the tour. 37 years old. A seriously broken Collar Bone less than 6 months ago.

Personally, I'd say that's quite an accomplishment.
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Don't get me wrong, LA is doing great. I didn't think he would get top ten, but I do think he has no hope of a podium.
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Originally Posted by monosierra View Post
Do you think it was tactics from the start? I think so too.
Probably, but like they said - leaving the card in play in case of the unexpected. Lance is riding great but it looks like he's liking being the "road captain" of the winning team.
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I think most are impressed with LA's performance. What's really irritating is the blind devotion to the notion that he should have been the No 1 rider on Astana. For those who watch more than the the TdF each year with any objectivity, it was fairly obvious that the answer was no. It could be argued that LA isn't the 3rd strongest rider on the team. Kloden could have rode away from LA today. And he could be sitting 2nd overall. But he instead, stayed back and paced Lance up to the top.
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Depends on how the next few days will turn out.

Thing is, it looks like Contador doesn't need anyone to pull him - the man does solo accelerations - so Kloden can focus on helping Armstrong. Had Leipheimer been around, it would have been better but given that Contador might be a great climber in the making, I guess LA can have much help rom Kloden.
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I am not a fanboy, but I am not so sure he wont get a podium. Lance will put time in on AS, FS, CS and others in the time trial. Only one mountaintop finish left. It may be close. BW, CE & others run good time trials, but they may not put enough time in on LA in the mountains. Should be interesting.

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Don't get me wrong, LA is doing great. I didn't think he would get top ten, but I do think he has no hope of a podium.
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Old 07-19-09, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
The big question is, should there have ever been any speculation?
Speculation about what?
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I suspect they may have played it up, but I am sure Lance had aspirations to win. He got smaked by a dose of reality today.

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Probably, but like they said - leaving the card in play in case of the unexpected. Lance is riding great but it looks like he's liking being the "road captain" of the winning team.
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Originally Posted by iab View Post
Dropped like a bag of wet sand.
Brilliant.

Now, back to watching the Cubs...
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Originally Posted by monosierra View Post
Depends on how the next few days will turn out.

Thing is, it looks like Contador doesn't need anyone to pull him - the man does solo accelerations - so Kloden can focus on helping Armstrong. Had Leipheimer been around, it would have been better
but given that Contador might be a great climber in the making, I guess LA can have much help rom Kloden.
In the making? Contador has been flying up mountains for the last few seasons.
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In the making? Contador has been flying up mountains for the last few seasons.
I meant a really great one - and that takes longevity. On current form of course, he is right up there with the likes of Pantani. Performance such as Angliru '08 and what happened today are examples.
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Originally Posted by JoelS View Post
I still think all that controversy with LA was race tactic prepping for AC's launch today.
at least that's the way lance will spin it. if that was the tactic -- and i don't believe it was -- it was stupid and unnecessary when you have the top rider in the world on your team.

arriba alberto!

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Originally Posted by daxr View Post
Probably, but like they said - leaving the card in play in case of the unexpected. Lance is riding great but it looks like he's liking being the "road captain" of the winning team.
I've never heard that term before, but it wouldn't surprise me. Hearing George talk it sounds like the same role is what has invigorated him in the last few years with Columbia. He mentioned that three years ago he thought he might be in his last year of racing, but he is loving his time with Columbia.

I've never been on a cycling team, but I have been the oldest guy on other teams, and it is fun to be the crafty veteran who gets to teach the talented youngsters.
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i don't think all the AC LA controversy was just smoke n mirrors... i think LA really believed his own hype and felt like he had the legs to win it... and i think today as many here had predicted, brought the man back down to earth. he struggled... and without kloden being so faithful, he would have lost more time. LA's post race interview was funny. he looked very disappointed and gave a little snippet about already having 7 yellow jerseys at home. everyone knows that... it just made him sound a little bitter. on a side note, i was very sick of hearing phil and paul talk about how great LA was doing for being 37 and out of racing for 3 years. ok, we've heard it, we know it, we acknowledge it... but lets not judge his performance on the tour now with that caveat in bold. i'm sure every rider in the peloton has overcome some adversity to be where they are at now.
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