TDF- How big is Contador's lead?
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He's been getting up out of the saddle plenty. But he'll never dance on the pedals again like he used to. That's age catching up to him. He can ride tempo. Doin' a great job at it. But the explosion needed to attack, as Contador did, or the ability to ramp it up to try and track down an attack, like Schleck did, isn't in Lance anymore. At this point, there's no reason to play possum. If he had it, he would have used it. After the stage, Lance even said that he didn't have that kind of climbing ability anymore.
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Because of that insane pace set by Saxo at the beginning of the climb. He was shot.
I will take some of what your friend is smoking.
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I will take some of what your friend is smoking.
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He doesn't smoke but I think he had a point. Even if he was shot, I am surprised he didn't get out of the saddle at least a little bit. He was looking like Ullrich today.
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Well he is 4 years older, and somewhat out of race shape. Today was his first real test in 4 years. He is rusty and tired. Getting out of the saddle take energy.
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Sure he will. In fact, it will almost certainly help Lance, now that he's over the divisive "I think I can win" attitude he'd been letting float around the past two weeks. He's performed far better than I anticipated, and now helping a teammate to a likely win will make for a nice cap to his career. In life, being a winner doesn't mean always finishing in first place.
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Contador lost a stage race this season because he forgot to eat. I don't think Astana will let it happen again, but anybody can crack.
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Contrador looks like he has it, but stranger things have happen.
1. He could have a bad day. (illness, accident, etc)
2. He could test positive.
There is a lot of racing left. 1.5 minutes is nothing.
1. He could have a bad day. (illness, accident, etc)
2. He could test positive.
There is a lot of racing left. 1.5 minutes is nothing.
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Classy interview by Lance afterwards, you could see he was crushed by the fact he just didn't have it. I wonder is Kloden and Armstrong can make the podium... Sastre was impressive how he came back. I would love to see AC and Sastre on a long climb together, Sastre was pulling time back after the initial acceleration.
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As usual a lot of clueless replies here. The lead is miniscule. 1:34 is nothing. Now if you want to talk about psychological advantage then by all means Contatdor has a huge advantage.
I don't think Lance can win especially being on the same team, but all it takes is cracking and one can lose 6,7,8, minutes easily.
Of course Contador will win but there is some illogical reasoning going on ...
I don't think Lance can win especially being on the same team, but all it takes is cracking and one can lose 6,7,8, minutes easily.
Of course Contador will win but there is some illogical reasoning going on ...
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As usual a lot of clueless replies here. The lead is miniscule. 1:34 is nothing. Now if you want to talk about psychological advantage then by all means Contatdor has a huge advantage.
I don't think Lance can win especially being on the same team, but all it takes is cracking and one can lose 6,7,8, minutes easily.
Of course Contador will win but there is some illogical reasoning going on ...
I don't think Lance can win especially being on the same team, but all it takes is cracking and one can lose 6,7,8, minutes easily.
Of course Contador will win but there is some illogical reasoning going on ...
But to give the OP who I think really wanted to know, let's say something horrible had to Contatdor on the last of teh flat stages, no injury, just a mechanical from Hell 10 kms out and instead of being up 1:34 he wass trailing by 1:34. Looking at how he has ridden I would still consider him the favorite (unless the mechanical convinced me it was time to believe some conspiricy theory).
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As usual a lot of clueless replies here. The lead is miniscule. 1:34 is nothing. Now if you want to talk about psychological advantage then by all means Contatdor has a huge advantage.
I don't think Lance can win especially being on the same team, but all it takes is cracking and one can lose 6,7,8, minutes easily.
Of course Contador will win but there is some illogical reasoning going on ...
I don't think Lance can win especially being on the same team, but all it takes is cracking and one can lose 6,7,8, minutes easily.
Of course Contador will win but there is some illogical reasoning going on ...
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As usual a lot of clueless replies here. The lead is miniscule. 1:34 is nothing. Now if you want to talk about psychological advantage then by all means Contatdor has a huge advantage.
I don't think Lance can win especially being on the same team, but all it takes is cracking and one can lose 6,7,8, minutes easily.
Of course Contador will win but there is some illogical reasoning going on ...
I don't think Lance can win especially being on the same team, but all it takes is cracking and one can lose 6,7,8, minutes easily.
Of course Contador will win but there is some illogical reasoning going on ...
After today's stage, Lance even said that he doesn't think he (LA) can win anymore. If something happens to AC, Astana might be forced to throw its support behind Kloden. There is no way Lance will be able to defend going up Mt. Ventoux. He had to be paced up today by Kloden.
Sure there are a lot of km's to ride. But nobody is going to beat AC with something out of the ordinary happening to him first.
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As usual a lot of clueless replies here. The lead is miniscule. 1:34 is nothing. Now if you want to talk about psychological advantage then by all means Contatdor has a huge advantage.
I don't think Lance can win especially being on the same team, but all it takes is cracking and one can lose 6,7,8, minutes easily.
Of course Contador will win but there is some illogical reasoning going on ...
I don't think Lance can win especially being on the same team, but all it takes is cracking and one can lose 6,7,8, minutes easily.
Of course Contador will win but there is some illogical reasoning going on ...
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I am a big Kloden fan, and I agree Lance is toast, but Kloden wasn't looking so hot today either. I mean that in relative terms. He got dropped at the beginning. He fought paced and paced the group. When that group attacked he Lance actually paced him for a bit. Kloden recovered again and paced the last 2k or so. I think Lance and Kloden are very close in performance.
Lance is a bigger name and brings in the $$$$. Unless Lance cracks again Kloden is #3.
As far a Lance pulling a Landis not in the team plan. It would be seen as an attack on his own teammate. If AC trusted Lance, which I don't think he does it could be an interesting way to get other teams up front.
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Lance is a bigger name and brings in the $$$$. Unless Lance cracks again Kloden is #3.
As far a Lance pulling a Landis not in the team plan. It would be seen as an attack on his own teammate. If AC trusted Lance, which I don't think he does it could be an interesting way to get other teams up front.
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Contador is not going to crack. Who is going to take a 1:34 out of Contador on a climb? And now that he's a damn good TT'er, who's going to get enough time on him that he just won't take back at Mt. Ventoux? Barring bad luck, crash, injury, illness, or + test. He's going to win. That is not illogical.
After today's stage, Lance even said that he doesn't think he (LA) can win anymore. If something happens to AC, Astana might be forced to throw its support behind Kloden. There is no way Lance will be able to defend going up Mt. Ventoux. He had to be paced up today by Kloden.
Sure there are a lot of km's to ride. But nobody is going to beat AC with something out of the ordinary happening to him first.
After today's stage, Lance even said that he doesn't think he (LA) can win anymore. If something happens to AC, Astana might be forced to throw its support behind Kloden. There is no way Lance will be able to defend going up Mt. Ventoux. He had to be paced up today by Kloden.
Sure there are a lot of km's to ride. But nobody is going to beat AC with something out of the ordinary happening to him first.
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I agree that's extemely unlikely that Contador will crack but after having watched this race for so long I've seen some crazy stuff happen and even Armstrong in his 7 year run was cracked a few times as was Mercxx etc. They've just been good enough to limit losses and be able to go on a counter attack later in the race.
I think that given the difficulty of two big mountains tages + TT + Ventoux in the same week could allow for someone to crack. That's a lot of tough racing compressed into a week.
Contador should win #2 but I'm curious to see what lies ahead on 16 and
Ventoux.
As far as Lance goes the only way he can win this race is if he gets onto a break with Contatdor and Contador cracks.
I was hoping he'd pull it off but the hand writing is on the wall.
Other than Armstrong I've been rooting for Maxime Monfort (only Belgian GC'er, who could have a shot at a podium in the next few years)
I think that given the difficulty of two big mountains tages + TT + Ventoux in the same week could allow for someone to crack. That's a lot of tough racing compressed into a week.
Contador should win #2 but I'm curious to see what lies ahead on 16 and
Ventoux.
As far as Lance goes the only way he can win this race is if he gets onto a break with Contatdor and Contador cracks.
I was hoping he'd pull it off but the hand writing is on the wall.
Other than Armstrong I've been rooting for Maxime Monfort (only Belgian GC'er, who could have a shot at a podium in the next few years)
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I agree that's extemely unlikely that Contador will crack but after having watched this race for so long I've seen some crazy stuff happen and even Armstrong in his 7 year run was cracked a few times as was Mercxx etc. They've just been good enough to limit losses and be able to go on a counter attack later in the race.
I think that given the difficulty of two big mountains tages + TT + Ventoux in the same week could allow for someone to crack. That's a lot of tough racing compressed into a week.
Contador should win #2 but I'm curious to see what lies ahead on 16 and
Ventoux.
As far as Lance goes the only way he can win this race is if he gets onto a break with Contatdor and Contador cracks.
I was hoping he'd pull it off but the hand writing is on the wall.
Other than Armstrong I've been rooting for Maxime Monfort (only Belgian GC'er, who could have a shot at a podium in the next few years)
I think that given the difficulty of two big mountains tages + TT + Ventoux in the same week could allow for someone to crack. That's a lot of tough racing compressed into a week.
Contador should win #2 but I'm curious to see what lies ahead on 16 and
Ventoux.
As far as Lance goes the only way he can win this race is if he gets onto a break with Contatdor and Contador cracks.
I was hoping he'd pull it off but the hand writing is on the wall.
Other than Armstrong I've been rooting for Maxime Monfort (only Belgian GC'er, who could have a shot at a podium in the next few years)