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grolby 10-12-12 10:51 AM

His sordid history of injecting U.S. National Team juniors with cortisone is far worse, for me, than building his career on Armstrong's success. But that's part of the picture, too. The guy is a slimeball.

fly:yes/land:no 10-12-12 10:51 AM

this thread really blew up in the op's face, huh?

guadzilla 10-12-12 11:04 AM

I should clarify, I am quite happy with my CTS videos, actually (I like them better than the Spinervals and CTS customer service was been really exceptional in handling a problem I had that was of my own making) and I personally dont really feel de-frauded.

I am merely curious as to where that's going to go, as it seems to have escaped notice for the most part.

If I were a bigger ****** than I am, I'd email them and ask them what's up with this whole thing but as I am a fairly satisfied customer, I'll refrain. :)

baccilus 10-12-12 11:04 AM

The real heroes are the people who refused to dope no matter what. Who were ready to sacrifice their career but refused to be dishonest. I would like to hear about such people.

StanSeven 10-12-12 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyCyclist (Post 14833601)
Prior to USADA's report, I was saying "USADA sucks". I've done a 180 since.

The fallout will be far reaching ... and it's just begun.

You like millions and millions of taxpayers dollars spent on a witch hunt and nothing been has been proven? Meanwhile drug dealers and major criminals are released because the Justice Dept doesn't have the money or resources to prosecute cases.

I don't know who Armstrong pissed off but somebody had it out for him and wouldn't let it end.

Commodus 10-12-12 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by StanSeven (Post 14834434)
You like millions and millions of taxpayers dollars spent on a witch hunt and nothing been has been proven? Meanwhile drug dealers and major criminals are released because the Justice Dept doesn't have the money or resources to prosecute cases.

I don't know who Armstrong pissed off but somebody had it out for him and wouldn't let it end.

...did you manage to type that with a straight face?

Homebrew01 10-12-12 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Commodus (Post 14834462)
...did you manage to type that with a straight face?

+1

I was waiting for the punch line .....

gsteinb 10-12-12 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by StanSeven (Post 14834434)
You like millions and millions of taxpayers dollars spent on a witch hunt and nothing been has been proven? Meanwhile drug dealers and major criminals are released because the Justice Dept doesn't have the money or resources to prosecute cases.

I don't know who Armstrong pissed off but somebody had it out for him and wouldn't let it end.

You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.

Homebrew01 10-12-12 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by bgilchrist (Post 14834052)
You honestly believe that?

Tygart himself said Armstrong would have been able to keep some of his TdF wins .... I think anything prior to the statute of limitations.
But since he didn't, the things he was charged with did not fall under the statute of limitations, so this is how it played out.

fly:yes/land:no 10-12-12 11:58 AM

their testimony is a relief because they weren't burdened by having to race in their final chance olympics, they don't have to race for a nice 6 month vacation, they are no longer obligated to keep track of some race wins on their resumes from a few years ago, their fans get to celebrate that they are cheaters. just living the good life.

Homebrew01 10-12-12 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 14834526)
You're just trying to start an argument to show how smart you are.

That's why I don't start arguments :(

pigah 10-12-12 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by fly:yes/land:no (Post 14834592)
their testimony is a relief because they weren't burdened by having to race in their final chance olympics, they don't have to race for a nice 6 month vacation, they are no longer obligated to keep track of some race wins on their resumes from a few years ago, their fans get to celebrate that they are cheaters. just living the good life.

and poor Lance gets a permanent vacation from Ironmans.

bikerjp 10-12-12 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by bike56 (Post 14832889)
webmaster@USADA.org
719 785 2000 main number

Please congratulate Lance on the enormity of his success the next time you see him.

tagaproject6 10-12-12 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by bike56 (Post 14832889)
webmaster@USADA.org
719 785 2000 main number

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

xfimpg 10-12-12 12:24 PM

Phil Liggett has always been a big defender of Armstrong.

I look forward to hearing his comments now.

Pug 10-12-12 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by xfimpg (Post 14834665)
Phil Liggett has always been a big defender of Armstrong.

I look forward to hearing his comments now.

+1, and what's Kevin Livingston up to these days?

pigah 10-12-12 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Wizel603 (Post 14833064)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...234/index.html

How does one test to see if a rug is doping or not?

I've heard of doping fabrics with fire ******ants. Maybe there is a fire test for doping rugs.

xfimpg 10-12-12 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by xfimpg (Post 14834665)
Phil Liggett has always been a big defender of Armstrong.

I look forward to hearing his comments now.

Add: Maybe Phil will prepare a tribute to Armstrong for us to show during the 2013 Tour de France, during its centennary. That would be lovely.

corvuscorvax 10-12-12 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by baccilus (Post 14833163)
Simply put, will you feel good about yourself after beating your own personal record after taking a performance enhancing drug?

We have mood enhancing drugs for that!

tagaproject6 10-12-12 12:34 PM

I wonder if Bruyneel will flip on LA if they give him a deal. But then again, its already too late for that.

Jed19 10-12-12 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Pug (Post 14834690)
+1, and what's Kevin Livingston up to these days?

He is down in Mellow Johnny's basement in Austin. That is his payout from LA for keeping his mouth shut about the doping he witnessed and partook of.

tagaproject6 10-12-12 12:41 PM

Forget Livingston, what about Alphonse???

mprelaw 10-12-12 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by bgilchrist (Post 14834052)
You honestly believe that?

Yes, because USADA has publicly stated that. He would have been allowed to retain 5 of his 7 TdF wins, too.

Jed19 10-12-12 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by tagaproject6 (Post 14834712)
I wonder if Bruyneel will flip on LA if they give him a deal. But then again, its already too late for that.

Yeah, that horse has bolted the barn.

asgelle 10-12-12 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by bgilchrist (Post 14833822)
So what happens to the accusers?

Interesting word choice. Since when is a witness an accuser? The only one who could be considered an accuser is Landis since he initiated contact with USADA and worked to initiate the investigation.


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