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Old 05-20-10, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by teterider View Post
I've said it before, I'll say it again:

Armstrong is too big to fail.

Incorrect before, incorrect again. Being "too big to fail" is not a guarantee against failure. Too many examples to mention.
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Old 05-20-10, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaireau View Post
Incorrect before, incorrect again. Being "too big to fail" is not a guarantee against failure. Too many examples to mention.
You misunderstand the concept completely. Whoosh, there it goes.
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Old 05-20-10, 07:23 AM
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Landis Admits Doping...

Discuss:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SPORT/05/20/...ex.html?hpt=T2

Sorry if this is a repost.
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Old 05-20-10, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Gorden Gekko View Post
Nothing like a nice fresh blood transfusion before the Nyack Ride
I'm still ascared of needles though.
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Old 05-20-10, 07:31 AM
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Hey, with a little EPO, I bet I could even win the Nyack Ride.
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This may not bode well for Trek.

Obviously Waterrocket's fault.
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This may not bode well for Trek.

Obviously Waterrocket's fault.
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Old 05-20-10, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by fly:yes/land:no View Post
the thing is, landis has no proof other than his word.
Supposedly, he has a journal with details. If that is correct, contemparaneous statements, before he had any motive to fabricate would be pretty powerful corroboration.

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If he thinks his situation is bad now, wait till he hears from his current team re next year's contract.
He's done with professional cycling and he knows it. He was never going to get another UCI Professional Continental team contract. He was not even winning on the domestic level (i.e.25th in the Tour of the Gila).

Sometimes you just have to say What he F***. Floyd has reached that time.
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Originally Posted by corbett1010 View Post
exactly
I don't think they're ALL doping, though.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
I'm still ascared of needles though.
Just blend it into a smoothie.
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i call shinanagins
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Originally Posted by teterider View Post
You misunderstand the concept completely. Whoosh, there it goes.
he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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wrong forum.
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glad he admitted it. it sucks it took him this long. but it doesn't suck as much as the twitter feed being closed.
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Regardless of your own misfortune, it is not okay to dime out your friends and colleagues. So now on top of being a disgraced athlete, he will also be frowned upon as a worthless snitch by everyone he ever rode with.

Way to go, dumbass!
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Old 05-20-10, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Prairie Native View Post
ah man, not dave...
It's what's in the DZ Nuts.
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Originally Posted by BillyD View Post
This may not bode well for Trek.

Obviously Waterrocket's fault.
Waterrockets will come up with some reasons why drugs really dont make you any faster although you may perceive that they have.
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If you found out everybody does dope up, would you really be surprised?
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The question is did Landis really send the email?

Landis also claims in the e-mail that Armstrong had told him Bruyneel met with the International Cycling Union to ensure details of a positive test remained confidential due to a “financial agreement”.

Current UCI president Pat McQuaid was quick to deny that the international federation had accepted funds to conceal information about a positive test when contacted by Cyclingnews. “It’s completely false and completely untrue and we’ve made contact with a lawyer and will take appropriate action,” said McQuaid.

I find it very hard to believe that the UCI would cover up anything for a “financial agreement”. Either Landis did send the email, and it is hard to believe anything he says, or he didn't send it and someone out there is going to get sued.
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Originally Posted by graphs View Post
Regardless of your own misfortune, it is not okay to dime out your friends and colleagues. So now on top of being a disgraced athlete, he will also be frowned upon as a worthless snitch by everyone he ever rode with.

Way to go, dumbass!
Meh, what does he owe them? Did Bruyneel or Armstrong offer him a job after his doping ban ended?
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Originally Posted by hipcheck5 View Post
Why is it that people who called Floyd a liar and said he was a horrible person, disgusting, etc. are now suddenly holding him up as a bastion of truth?
Because they don't know what they are talking about?
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Originally Posted by cccorlew View Post
I wonder if they're really his emails. I've always believed he was set up. If this turns out to be true I may have to give up watching pro cycling. I mean, Big George too?
I'm, perhaps foolishly, hoping this is all a fraud.
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"Landis also claims in the e-mail that Armstrong had told him Bruyneel met with the International Cycling Union to ensure details of a positive test remained confidential due to a “financial agreement”.

"Current UCI president Pat McQuaid was quick to deny that the international federation had accepted funds to conceal information about a positive test when contacted by Cyclingnews. “It’s completely false and completely untrue and we’ve made contact with a lawyer and will take appropriate action,” said McQuaid".



I find it very hard to believe that the UCI would cover up anything for a “financial agreement”. Either Landis did send the email, and it is hard to believe anything he says, or he didn't send it and someone out there is going to get sued.
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