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Old 04-20-11, 10:51 AM
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Philippe Gilbert: Will he do it?

Watched the Fleché Walloon and another great win for Philippe Gilbert after his win in the Amstel Gold on Sunday. Tactically, he is master and obviously is in great form at the moment. Pulled away from the bunch in the last 300m.

Great sunny weather for late April.

What chance he does the treble on Sunday in the Liége-Bastogne-Liége?
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Old 04-20-11, 11:18 AM
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I, for one, would love to see him do it. He certainly has the ability, but can he recover from today's effort by the weekend?
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Originally Posted by Namenda View Post
I, for one, would love to see him do it. He certainly has the ability, but can he recover from today's effort by the weekend?
Seeing as he was free-wheeling the last 250 meters I think he's still got a fair amount of gas in that tank!

That was an amazing ride. By an amazing rider. I'm routing for him despite my alligence to the Leopard boys of Lux. To see someone come alive on a new team (thinking FdJ days) and take command of his team after the departure of his co-Classics leader is to watch a bit of history all over again being made.

(now part of me is quietly hoping, no praying, that we don't come to find out Philippe is just another Rebellin or DiLuca ... )
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(now part of me is quietly hoping, no praying, that we don't come to find out Philippe is just another Rebellin or DiLuca ... )
No kidding. But part of what I love in this sport is that I always find myself having more cyclists to route for than against. Unlike other team sports, where I am either ecstatic that my team won or crushed that they lost (I live in Seattle, so usually crushed), it seems I am always happy and satisfied after watching a bike race.
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Old 04-21-11, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by luxroadie View Post
(now part of me is quietly hoping, no praying, that we don't come to find out Philippe is just another Rebellin or DiLuca ... )
Your feelings are understandable.

OTOH, Pilippe would have been very stupid to have made this anti-doping add.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FgtgoO6Lsg

Whatever he is I don't thimk he's stupid.

Reassured?
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Old 04-21-11, 11:15 AM
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It wouldn't reassure me one bit that Gilbert has spoken up against doping in the past. Unfortunately, that's just the way it is with cycling. It's hard to believe in anybody, let alone guys like Cancellara and Gilbert who seem to win so easily.

I mean, how many athletes have vehemently denied cheating? Isn't it stupid how Contador talks about tainted beef? Wasn't it stupid for Lance to say he never used PEDs when he really did? Wasn't it stupid for Floyd to go through all the trouble he went through when he was, in fact, a cheater? Wasn't it stupid for a guy like Rafael Palmeiro to wag his finger before Congress and later test positive? A lot of guys do stupid stuff and get caught later. Plenty of people protest too much.

I'm not saying Gilbert is a cheater. I don't think there's any real evidence of it. He's the best at finishing up a hill like that and guys like Contador and Schleck weren't on top form on Wednesday. All I'm saying is that it wouldn't surprise me if he ends up testing positive because it wouldn't surprise me to see anybody test positive.
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Originally Posted by luxroadie View Post
Seeing as he was free-wheeling the last 250 meters I think he's still got a fair amount of gas in that tank!

That was an amazing ride. By an amazing rider. I'm routing for him despite my alligence to the Leopard boys of Lux. To see someone come alive on a new team (thinking FdJ days) and take command of his team after the departure of his co-Classics leader is to watch a bit of history all over again being made.

(now part of me is quietly hoping, no praying, that we don't come to find out Philippe is just another Rebellin or DiLuca ... )
I don't know if Ferrari considers him to be a great rider (I do), but hisride up the Huy was the best on record, it seems: https://www.53x12.com/do/show?page=indepth.view&id=116
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Originally Posted by Moontrane View Post
I don't know if Ferrari considers him to be a great rider (I do), but hisride up the Huy was the best on record, it seems: [URL]https://www.53x12.com/do/show?page=indepth.view&id=116[/URL]
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Gilbert's 2011 has been unbelievable so far. But these spring races are what he has geared up for, I don't think he expects himself to be in the mix for any of the major tours... but he's been such a beast I wouldn't be surprised. This guy has been awesome, and it seems like he's a good guy, making him very easy to root for. Plus, this guy has been winning my favorite races to watch (minus Roubaix), which makes it especially fun to watch.

The translation for his anti-doping PSA basically goes like this: Cycling is my life. It has been my passion for 15 years and I've been a professional for 9 years. Be strong, respect the rules, that is victory without doping.

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Thanks for the translation Johnny. I'd got the gist of it without understanding every word.

LBL will be the hardest of the three for him and it'll be no disgrace if he doesn't do it. Hope the other teams don't ride a negative 'stop Gilbert' race.

I think as far back as 2005 he accepted he would probably never win a major tour mainly because the 'odds' were stacked against him. Even if he doesn't win Sunday he will be one of the riders I'll be rooting for over the rest of the season.
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Originally Posted by Caretaker View Post
Thanks for the translation Johnny. I'd got the gist of it without understanding every word.
Yeah, the stomping on the syringe bit isn't too subtle!

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LBL will be the hardest of the three for him and it'll be no disgrace if he doesn't do it. Hope the other teams don't ride a negative 'stop Gilbert' race.
I am not a fan of those negative tactics either, and I'm sure Cancellara is pretty sick of them too. I bet inside the peloton those are seen as a huge sign of respect/fear, but as a spectator I just want to see the strongest guys get a shot to prove their form.

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I think as far back as 2005 he accepted he would probably never win a major tour mainly because the 'odds' were stacked against him. Even if he doesn't win Sunday he will be one of the riders I'll be rooting for over the rest of the season.
I'll root for him as well. He has been a great mix of strength and savvy thus far.
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Old 04-24-11, 08:32 AM
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Easy win for Gilbert.

What were the Schlecks thinking?
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Yes!

Gilbert, Schleck, Schleck.

Schleck brothers must have planned to attack Gilbert on final climb but instead it was Gilbert who attacked. Final 1km and they just set him up for the win.

Only second rider in history to do the Ardenne triple. Bravo!
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Originally Posted by DXchulo View Post
Easy win for Gilbert.
What were the Schlecks thinking?
I reckon they werent peaking yet and knew that they wouldnt be able to shake him, and that if they worked together, atleast they could get podium.
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What do Rebellin and Gilbert have in common?
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Four Classic's victories in a row! That was an awesome display, kind of like Cancellara last year with Harelbeke/Flanders/Roubaix-- or Gilbert himself at the end of '09. The dude really knows how to go on a tear. The other guys in the peloton are probably just glad the Ardennes are over, and some races are coming up where they have a better chance.
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Wow, Gilbert does it again. I wonder what the Schlecks will say about that last kilometers? Seemed like they could have used each other a bit more, but Gilbert might have been too strong anyhow.
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Wow, Gilbert does it again. I wonder what the Schlecks will say about that last kilometers? Seemed like they could have used each other a bit more, but Gilbert might have been too strong anyhow.
Andy looked like he had nothing for him at the end. I hope Gilbert does as well later this season, because he is fun to watch and in general a pretty like-able guy.
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Wow, Gilbert does it again. I wonder what the Schlecks will say about that last kilometers? Seemed like they could have used each other a bit more, but Gilbert might have been too strong anyhow.
Gilbert was very complimentary in his post-race interview about the Schlecks and how they (and Team Leopard-Trek)helped bring back the breakaway group. Nothing negative about LT tactics.
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Gilbert was very complimentary in his post-race interview about the Schlecks and how they (and Team Leopard-Trek)helped bring back the breakaway group. Nothing negative about LT tactics.
Why would he say anything negative about their tactics? They practically handed him the race.
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I reckon they werent peaking yet and knew that they wouldnt be able to shake him, and that if they worked together, atleast they could get podium.
I don't think so. The Schlecks used nearly perfect tactics with Jens to shake him up. Everyone on his team was gone. Gilbert is known to be deadly on this kind of a course. He is perfectly suited for this type of a race and when he is in top form the Schlecks will never be able to beat him under any circumstance except bad luck. IF the Schlecks were not near peak form they would not have been anywhere near the front of this race. There are too many strong riders targeting this race. They seek to peak for this race and then taper off for a spell and build again for the TDF. THe Schlecks are more pure climbers. They are in a different league for TDF type big climbs but this race is better suited for Gilbert.
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I'm surprised they didn't just rotate attacks the entire last 6K. Still I don't think there's anything they could have done really.
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I'm surprised they didn't just rotate attacks the entire last 6K. Still I don't think there's anything they could have done really.
I was wondering the same thing, at first; but it looked like neither of them were strong enough to break away. What really got my attention was that sometimes Gilbert didn't even bother to draft the lead Schleck!
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I was wondering the same thing, at first; but it looked like neither of them were strong enough to break away. What really got my attention was that sometimes Gilbert didn't even bother to draft the lead Schleck!
I think Gilbert kind of gave them 2nd and 3rd gracefully. He probably could have put a few seconds or more on them had he broke earlier but I think he was playing it smart. He knew that he should save himself as much as possible for the ending sprint where he had a much better chance of winning without mishap. It looked to me like he almost beat them too easily at the end. Like he wasn't even trying all that hard.
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How did you manage to see the race? On the west coast we got one hour od NBD Devlopemental League Basketbal ( what ever the **** that is) and then missed the last ten miles of the bike race.
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