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USAZorro 06-30-11 01:45 PM

Stage 5: Wednesday, July 6 165 km Carhaix → Cap Fréhel
 
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DXchulo 07-05-11 10:43 AM

Looks like a tough sprint stage, especially if it's windy along the coast. Can Garmin stay on a roll?

ultraman6970 07-05-11 10:50 AM

Up and downs.

HigherGround 07-06-11 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by DXchulo (Post 12882619)
Looks like a tough sprint stage, especially if it's windy along the coast. Can Garmin stay on a roll?

I sure hope so! How awesome would it be* if Thor stays in yellow, and Tyler takes the green jersey?

*As a Garmin-Cervelo fan, I'm obviously biased.

Creatre 07-06-11 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by HigherGround (Post 12886173)
I sure hope so! How awesome would it be* if Thor stays in yellow, and Tyler takes the green jersey?

*As a Garmin-Cervelo fan, I'm obviously biased.

I am also hoping for this. It's been a long time coming for Garmin to have a great Tour de France, I hope the luck stays up.

Shadco 07-06-11 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by Creatre (Post 12886607)
I am also hoping for this. It's been a long time coming for Garmin to have a great Tour de France, I hope the luck stays up.

A long time? This is their 4th tdf, Ask FDJ, Lotto, Quickstep, Euskatel, etc what is a long time?

HigherGround 07-06-11 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by Shadco (Post 12886696)
A long time? This is their 5th tdf, Ask FDJ, Lotto, Quickstep, Euskatel, etc what is a long time?

To clarify, I never said it has been a long time.

Shadco 07-06-11 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by HigherGround (Post 12886802)
To clarify, I never said it has been a long time.

You are correct sir I quoted the wrong post, plus it's their 4th not 5th tdf

and I agree seeing Thor in Yellow and Tyler doing well is a treat

1fluffhead 07-06-11 07:51 AM

The peloton is really getting ripped up with all of the crashes

Kind of Blued 07-06-11 08:08 AM

Kloden is looking more and more like the front runner for Radioshack, with Leipheimer and Horner having bad luck, and Brajkovic crashing out (best of luck to him). Christophe Kern from Europcar also crashed out.

Tom Boonen's line in the intermediate sprint was HORRENDOUS. Rojas got cut off really badly, much more so than Cavendish. Some of the crap these guys get away with is ridiculous, especially the obvious, prolonged motorpacing by Vacansoleil yesterday.

1fluffhead 07-06-11 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Kind of Blued (Post 12887145)

Tom Boonen's line in the intermediate sprint was HORRENDOUS.

He really was all over the road. It will be interesting to hear Cav's POV on this one at the end of the stage. I am sure he will have some choice words to say.

dagna 07-06-11 09:19 AM

What a crashfest...I feel like I'm watching demolition derby.

OrionKhan 07-06-11 09:32 AM

Great sprint finish. Looked like Cav was out of it until the very end.

DXchulo 07-06-11 09:45 AM

Great ride by Cav. I thought he was done and then he just passes a bunch of guys with ease. Gilbert looked good today. I wonder what happened to him yesterday.

Prediction: Rojas is going to win the green jersey.

OrionKhan 07-06-11 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by DXchulo (Post 12887618)
Great ride by Cav. I thought he was done and then he just passes a bunch of guys with ease. Gilbert looked good today. I wonder what happened to him yesterday.

Prediction: Rojas is going to win the green jersey.

The green is shaping up to be quite a battle. Gilbert looks good as well. He could win another stage on a breakaway. Cav losing those intermediate points hurts his cause. But you gotta figure he'll win a couple of more times. But with Rojas and Gilbert staying the in the mix, it might be tough for Cav winning the green. Finishes like today's are better for Gilbert and Rojas. But there are still true flat sprint finishes to come. The pure sprinters will be bigger factors on those stages.

Kind of Blued 07-06-11 10:01 AM

I'm sure Lotto is trying to get Gilbert in green, but it seems like Greipel is maybe leading him out instead of contesting sprints, which is the reason he left HTC in the first place.

Rojas is lookin' good for green though. He's doing a good job of hanging with Thor and Gilbert on those uphill strongman sprint finishes. There are a few stages that favor guys like that over the pure sprinters.

There was a Euskatel rider that looked like he wanted to go with Roy and Voekler on the late break, but decided against it at the last second. I wish he had, as I think they could have made it with three guys, and I really wanted to see Voekler take the stage.

Very entertaining stage all around. Gotta love the Tour for having enough clout to get almost enough airtime for an entire stage on TV.

DiabloScott 07-06-11 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Kind of Blued (Post 12887145)
Tom Boonen's line in the intermediate sprint was HORRENDOUS. Rojas got cut off really badly, much more so than Cavendish. Some of the crap these guys get away with is ridiculous, especially the obvious, prolonged motorpacing by Vacansoleil yesterday.

Boonen's in 24th place in the points competition; he's got 25 points and Rojas has 119. I can't figure out why TB is even contesting the intermediate sprints much less doing it in such an aggressive manner... he only got 10 points for that display (and Rojas got 7).

He might not even start tomorrow so it may be a non-issue anyway.

Edit: they stripped Boonen and Rojas of their intermediate sprint points - Gilbert takes the green!

There was a change to the green jersey classification after some questionable sprinting from the field for sixth place on the intermediate sprint point, Boonen and points leader Rojas were both disqualified for the bonus points. The seven points Rojas lost in that decision dropped him behind Gilbert in the green jersey competition, but the call was only made after the podium presentation had taken place.

InReverse 07-06-11 11:23 AM

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Screenshot taken from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcdt8zIZdwk at 0:52.

This is pretty impressive, considering Cavendish is buried that far among world class riders. He's behind the black helmet and in front of the lime helmet. It seems they're at about 250 meters according to the markers on the right.

SouthFLpix 07-06-11 12:02 PM

For me the story of the day was all the crashes, a lot of which involved big name riders.

Kind of Blued 07-06-11 12:18 PM

Can anybody find video of the intermediate sprint? Boonen's points were rightfully stripped, but I don't remember Rojas causing much trouble...

DiabloScott 07-06-11 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Kind of Blued (Post 12888438)
Can anybody find video of the intermediate sprint? Boonen's points were rightfully stripped, but I don't remember Rojas causing much trouble...

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/436550...ports-cycling/ The "recap" video @17sec.

Rojas pushes Boonen to the left and blocks Cav, then Boonen pushes to the right toward a Cofidis guy and Rojas gets squeezed out the back.

gear 07-06-11 02:48 PM

OK, it's a windy day, the roads are narrow, there's been a lot of crashes, time to ride my motorcycle into the peloton. What could possibly go wrong?

wabbit 07-06-11 04:52 PM

Tom Boonen does not seem to have good luck at the tour for some reason...it's just not his race. He's been far behind in the points and without that or a stage win, there's not much reason for him to stick it out for 3 weeks! I had a feeling he'd probably bail and now I'm sure he will...
for guys like him the Tour is just basically riding in a pack around france for 3 weeks, you don't have a hope in hell, you have to win a stage or get the sprints and then you have to drag yourself over the Pyrenees....he's really a classics guy.

DiabloScott 07-06-11 05:25 PM

Boonen's clear to start tomorrow:

After 100 kilometres Tom Boonen had less luck. The former world champion went down together with team mates Gert Steegmans, Gerald Ciolek and Addy Engels. Ciolek and Engels got back on their bikes quickly, while Boonen and Steegmans kept their feet at the ground for some time. "To avoid the riders ahead of me I braked but my front wheel touched another athlete’s back wheel”, Boonen says .“I flew over my bike in an endo and I fell, hitting my head and the right side of my body. My helmet busted on impact."

In the fall Boonen suffered a series of abrasions to his shoulder, elbow and right gluteus, which is sporting a rather deep cut. "After the first few minutes of shock I got back on my bike and I wanted to finish the stage”, continues Boonen. Engels waited for his captain, but first brought his team mates the water bottles he got from the team car before he crashed.

Steegmans was also troubled by the hard crash. In the fall Steegmans took some scrapes to his knee and his left shoulder. The Belgian rider is also suffering from pain in his left wrist. Together with a Spaniard he continued his way several minutes behind the bunch. Behind Steegmans his team mates Engels and Boonen were doing everything they could to reach the finish in time. Eventually they managed to reach Cap Frehel in time. “I have to thank Engels for his support. Alone I would have risked ending up outside of the maximum time. Now all I only want to recover some Energy from tomorrow." Boonen and Steegmans will be starting in tomorrow’s stage.

Kind of Blued 07-06-11 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by DiabloScott (Post 12888509)
Rojas pushes Boonen to the left and blocks Cav, then Boonen pushes to the right toward a Cofidis guy and Rojas gets squeezed out the back.

Thanks. They got that one right. Still pissed they didn't hit the Vacansoleil guy for motorpacing yesterday. That was just pathetic.

DiabloScott 07-06-11 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by wabbit (Post 12889720)
Tom Boonen does not seem to have good luck at the tour for some reason...it's just not his race. He's been far behind in the points and without that or a stage win, there's not much reason for him to stick it out for 3 weeks! I had a feeling he'd probably bail and now I'm sure he will...
for guys like him the Tour is just basically riding in a pack around france for 3 weeks, you don't have a hope in hell, you have to win a stage or get the sprints and then you have to drag yourself over the Pyrenees....he's really a classics guy.

Boonen has 6 TDF stage wins, one Green Jersey, and he's worn the Yellow Jersey for a while... we should all be so unlucky.
He's got a better chance of winning a stage this year than probably 190 of the other guys. The fans want to see him, the sponsors want to see him, the press want to interview him, and he wants to show himself... that's plenty of reason. And he's starting tomorrow in what looks to be a lot of pain.

wabbit 07-06-11 07:42 PM

[QUOTE=DiabloScott;12889906]Boonen has 6 TDF stage wins, one Green Jersey, and he's worn the Yellow Jersey for a while... we should all be so unlucky.
He's got a better chance of winning a stage this year than probably 190 of the other guys. The fans want to see him, the sponsors want to see him, the press want to interview him, and he wants to show himself... that's plenty of reason. And he's starting tomorrow in what looks to be a lot of pain.[/QUOTE

I know his accomplishments, but he hasn't finished very often, of course he's a sprinter and they often don't...nasty looking injuries! I have a feeling he may not make it through the alps, let along to paris. But you never know...

Dubbayoo 07-07-11 08:17 AM

Boonen was on top of the world til his cocaine binge. He's the Tiger Woods of cycling.

AzTallRider 07-07-11 10:22 AM

Watching Boonen get going after the crash was poignant. He would start to reach for his shoulder, then realize the futility of that, and you could see the transition from pain (and fear of not finishing the tour) to resolve. Remarkable to watch.


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