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Old 12-16-11, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by X-LinkedRider
I don't where you got that EVERYBODY dopes simply because the larger part of the field does. .
Ummm...Actually, I said 'EVERYONE DIDNT DOPE", just a handful of riders, go back and re-read what I wrote, i said that not all of them did, but just a handful of the top riders did.

The ones that did, made the ones that didnt "guilty by association", as then everyone thought that every single rider was dirty.
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Originally Posted by Commodus
I was a big fan. I still would be if he would just man up and tell the truth: "yeah, I doped. My career was finished because of the time away spent fighting cancer, I had to do something to come back. Everyone else doped, I just doped better and more specifically."

Kinda the same sentiment here. He knows what the reprocussions will be, so he's screwed either way. Had he just come out from the beginning and said "yes, I did it, and here's why", dont think many wouldve had too many issues with it. But now, it's as if it's gotten way out of control, and there is no saving face here.

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Originally Posted by ravenmore
. And where in the heck has anyone ever accused him of embezzling from Livestrong?

A five second Google search, yielded this:

https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ong/index.html

Also, Commodus gave an excellent link too:
Well I'd be the last to hold up Bicycling as a source of credible journalism...usually. But this article: https://www.bicycling.com/news/pro-cy...trongs-endgame
And....there was just another thread about Lance, and one person chimed in that Gary Fischer, all but admitted, that Lemond was telling the truth about Armstrong's doping. It was in an article/interview for "Bicycling" magazine. The person said that there's still a grand jury investigation about to wrap up, and Lance might be headed for a bad time(Ill look for the thread-Found it...here's just a small part of it.)

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I could write a book here, but I'll just stick to a few points.

Boring:
https://stevethebikeguy.com/wp-conten...eL2-small1.jpg

Any bike brand that does this kind of work is not boring. Well done Trek for green-lighting this project usually done by small boutique brands.


Brand:
LeMond was at one time the 5th largest bike brand in the US.
Trek dropped the rights to LeMond accessories, so Greg made a deal with a firm (PTI) to continue non-bike merchandise which pissed Trek off. PTI screwed it up with deals like Target which Greg disliked.

Reputation:
Greg was telling it like he saw it. It's speculation that he was doing it out of spite for having Armstrong beat his TdF record (through outside means), but I can't argue it certainly looked that way. Plus I think we'd all be a bit irritated by it. Nevertheless, when even Bicycling magazine and Bill Strickland come out and stitch together a mountain of evidence, which LeMond kept randomly discharging, suddenly he shouldn't look so crazy. While I'd rather have the past stay in the past at this point, the Grand Jury and case against Armstrong might be on its way to give LeMond a huge "told you so" moment - but that too is speculation.

However, because Greg was in the Trek family he unfortunately needed to bite his tongue I think. It would have have been tough but the appropriate thing to do given the business relationship. For instance, radio talk show hosts never bad mouth a colleague even if they are on opposite ends of opinion.

Person:
If you ever get to meet Greg or hear him talk, blank your mind of any misconceptions and then judge. He is just a nice guy and awesome cycling figure.

Lemme find the other one for you all(here's what i was talking about):

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Old 12-16-11, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by LemondFanForeve
A five second Google search, yielded this:

https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ong/index.html

Also, Commodus gave an excellent link too:

And....there was just another thread about Lance, and one person chimed in that Gary Fischer, all but admitted, that Lemond was telling the truth about Armstrong's doping. It was in an article/interview for "Bicycling" magazine. The person said that there's still a grand jury investigation about to wrap up, and Lance might be headed for a bad time(Ill look for the thread-Found it...here's just a small part of it.)




Lemme find the other one for you all(here's what i was talking about):
oh for effes sake - I'm not going to waste my time digging through a long article for single pertinent quote. You lost me at Landis.
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I don't like Lance, and I never really have. Of course people are gonna say he's doped and others will say he hasn't, he's a famous athlete, odds are he did, but I don't know that for a fact and neither do any of you. That out of the way, I'll say this he's done a lot for our passion/hobby/sport/business, whatever the hell it is to you and there's no denying it... sadly.
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Originally Posted by RaleighSport
I don't like Lance, and I never really have. Of course people are gonna say he's doped and others will say he hasn't, he's a famous athlete, odds are he did, but I don't know that for a fact and neither do any of you. That out of the way, I'll say this he's done a lot for our passion/hobby/sport/business, whatever the hell it is to you and there's no denying it... sadly.
The problem I see on here is that half the people claim he doped and the other half don't really care or realize that but can still continue to look at the rest of his career achievements. I will never claim or speculate as to who Doped or didn't. That is not my job at all. If it was I would have to promise myself to care as much about every other rider.

I too agree, that I wish he would man up if that were the case and just explain. However, until that happens it is speculation and every other rider that placed 10th or better in the past 5 years should probably be under the same scrutiny. But they aren't. People only care about Lance because he's marketable for them and their news channel. Guess what happens if Andy/Frank Schleck get found guilty or accused of the same thing. People go in an uproar and about 2 weeks later, nobody cares again the world has selected a new favorite rider to take their place. With Lance, it's years of debate.
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There was a time when I would have been interested in a LA movie, now I'm just waiting for the "other shoe to drop" in the investigation.
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Originally Posted by bikepro
There was a time when I would have been interested in a LA movie, now I'm just waiting for the "other shoe to drop" in the investigation.
So what you're saying is, you're more interested in the Sequel?
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I agree with Sanchez.
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Why does everyone keep saying Lance has never failed a drug test? his 1999 and 2000 tour samples came back positive for EPO.
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Why does everyone keep saying Lance has never failed a drug test? his 1999 and 2000 tour samples came back positive for EPO.
If I recall those positives came years after the samples were taken, and proper procedure and protocols were not followed in handling the samples. There also were no b samples to test. Anything could have been done to those samples after they were taken. I like how people like to leave out details like that.

If you're going to make an statement like that, don't pluck out the bits of truth you favor and present them out of context to support your argument. Especially when you're accusing someone of cheating or a crime.
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Originally Posted by ravenmore
If I recall those positives came years after the samples were taken, and proper procedure and protocols were not followed in handling the samples. There also were no b samples to test. Anything could have been done to those samples after they were taken. I like how people like to leave out details like that.

If you're going to make an statement like that, don't pluck out the bits of truth you favor and present them out of context to support your argument. Especially when you're accusing someone of cheating or a crime.
+100 Very well said Raven. Aside from that, I don't see where people haid he NEVER failed a drug test. He just never failed for anything important. There are plenty of minor incidents of failing for minor pain killers after a crash and stuff like that. But the only suggestions at a failed Doping test were the ones just mentioned, which carry or hold NO WATER at this point due to Very Sloppy procedures.
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I'd go see a lance movie. I just hope if one is made, it's made well, attempts to be honest and isn't released until after he is deceased.
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Originally Posted by X-LinkedRider
+100 Very well said Raven. Aside from that, I don't see where people haid he NEVER failed a drug test. He just never failed for anything important. There are plenty of minor incidents of failing for minor pain killers after a crash and stuff like that. But the only suggestions at a failed Doping test were the ones just mentioned, which carry or hold NO WATER at this point due to Very Sloppy procedures.
Nothing said in this post is accurate
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Originally Posted by ravenmore
You know what I always thought would make a bad ass movie? Doing a movie about Major Taylor.
"The greatest hero America ever forgot," Major Taylor Google it.
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Possibly the dumbest statement ever seen on BF is that only a handful of top riders were doping. The only people who believe that are the ones with an agenda or ones who are new to cycling.

I would also like to ask Lemondfanforeve to post the quotes that show Armstrong was embezzling money from Livestrong, instead of quotes about other things. Since he claimed it happened.
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Well at least its not a movie about Lemond crying.....
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Originally Posted by Rubo
Why does everyone keep saying Lance has never failed a drug test? his 1999 and 2000 tour samples came back positive for EPO.
Because he didn't. You asked. Cheers
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Because he didn't. You asked. Cheers
Yup, those weren't drug tests. They were part of the research that ratified the test for EPO. Not exactly good news for Lance fans, but not exactly drug tests either.

Like the alleged plasticizer presence in Berti's blood.
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7 > 3
Lance > Lemond
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