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Paris-Nice 2012 - Stage 2 - Monday 5 March - Mantes-la-Jolie > Orléans - 185.5 km

Old 03-02-12, 11:03 AM
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Paris-Nice 2012 - Stage 2 - Monday 5 March - Mantes-la-Jolie > Orléans - 185.5 km

Television Info (Eastern) - NBCSN
Mon 3/5 4:30PM-6:00PM



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Old 03-05-12, 10:23 AM
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I watched it online but I won't spoil until later in the day after the network airing. Let's just say I REALLY need to alter my velogames team.
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I wonder if Boonen can win a classic this year. Gilbert doesn't look that good so far, but Cancellara looked great at Strade Bianche.

Meanwhile, I took took Leipheimer, Wiggins, and Valverde off my team in favor of sprinters and all 3 made the big break. Damn! I did have Boonen, which was about the only good news for my fantasy team today.
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fun stge to watch, my live covarage started after the splits which was a shame, its fun to watch how they form.

Bernard Papon's photo.



I like the lack of team cars in the photo
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I'm looking forward to the coverage this afternoon...my online experience was less than satisfactory. I kept losing the EuroSport feed and had to either re-connect or watch the Sporza or France3 coverage. Judging by the echelons in the picture, it looks like the splits were wind related (also evidenced by the Astana rider's jacket).

Why don't they just ride faster and catch up?
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Originally Posted by dstrong View Post
Why don't they just ride faster and catch up?
I think the dynamics of echelon formation mean that the people further back waste a lot of energy before they give up and start their own echelon. So they have used a lot more energy than the echelon in front. And the pack is roughly arranged by strength/ability anyway. There is no advantage to catching up, the guys on the windy side get no advantage from the echelon in front of them. You can see that on the hill, there are two echelons very close to each other, but they can never really join each other.
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Originally Posted by unterhausen View Post
I think the dynamics of echelon formation mean that the people further back waste a lot of energy before they give up and start their own echelon. So they have used a lot more energy than the echelon in front. And the pack is roughly arranged by strength/ability anyway. There is no advantage to catching up, the guys on the windy side get no advantage from the echelon in front of them. You can see that on the hill, there are two echelons very close to each other, but they can never really join each other.
You see the smiley at the end of his post, right?
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or France3 coverage.
I lost the espn too, and went to france 3. Not such good commentry on france 3 as espn
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Here's how the top 20 stand after round 2 -

General classification
    • 1. Bradley WIGGINS , (GBR) Sky in 4:33:32
    • 2. Levi LEIPHEIMER , (USA) Opq +6
    • 3. Tom BOONEN , (BEL) Opq +7
    • 4. Tejay VAN GARDEREN , (USA) Bmc +11
    • 5. Sylvain CHAVANEL , (FRA) Opq +14
    • 6. Maxime MONFORT , (BEL) Rnt +18
    • 7. Taylor PHINNEY , (USA) Bmc +21
    • 8. Lieuwe WESTRA , (NED) Vcd +22
    • 9. Geraint THOMAS , (GBR) Sky +28
    • 10. Jose Joaquin ROJAS GIL , (ESP) Mov +29
    • 11. Alejandro VALVERDE BELMONTE , (ESP) Mov +30
    • 12. John DEGENKOLB , (GER) Pro +30
    • 13. Simon SPILAK , (SLO) Kat +33
    • 14. Robert KISERLOVSKI , (CRO) Ast +36
    • 15. Francesco GAVAZZI , (ITA) Ast +44
    • 16. Sep VANMARCKE , (BEL) Grm +52
    • 17. Arnold JEANNESSON , (FRA) Fdj +52
    • 18. Nikolas MAES , (BEL) Opq +53
    • 19. Angel VICIOSO ARCOS , (ESP) Kat +54
    • 20. Andreas KLIER , (GER) Grm +1:06
Great day for the Americans as Levi, Tejay and Phinney were able to stay with the lead group. Phinney really impressed me today by doing so much of the work to keep the lead group out in front. He sits nicely in 7th after a good sprint to the line. Tejay holds onto the white jersey.

Tom Boonen was the class of that sprint today!

After today, alot of the top names are out of it. Hushvod, DeGent, Basso, and Andy Schleck to name a couple.
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Andy Schelck = Soft = Not Serious = ?

Not even Poulidor seems a legitimate comparison ... unless someone tells me a freekin boar jumped out and ate his bike ......
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I don't think Andy is serious at this point int the season. It's all about the tour for him.
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I don't think Andy is serious at this point int the season. It's all about the tour for him.
You could be right, he could be sandbagging it some, but I don't think he wanted to come in here and be embarrassed either.

I guess we'll see what he does in the mountains...
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You could be right, he could be sandbagging it some, but I don't think he wanted to come in here and be embarrassed either.

I guess we'll see what he does in the mountains...
If it's anything like his early season last year he will goof off in the mountains, too. Right up through the Tour de Suisse it looked like he was using races for recovery days. In one stage he led a climb and then literally stopped for a bit and let the entire field pass him before the finish.
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If it's anything like his early season last year he will goof off in the mountains, too. Right up through the Tour de Suisse it looked like he was using races for recovery days. In one stage he led a climb and then literally stopped for a bit and let the entire field pass him before the finish.
Not Johan's style. Every race you race to win. Wiggins wants Tour as well. And clearly more than Schleck. Wonder how that kid will ever fix what is wrong ... his head.
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I don't think Andy is serious at this point int the season. It's all about the tour for him.
andy has gone home, no more paris nice 2012 for him
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andy has gone home, no more paris nice 2012 for him
Yeah, it looks like your right - stomach virus and temperature....
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I have the next two days off and would like to watch live in the a.m. Is there an English speaking live feed in the US (not versus)?
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