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Thulsadoom 05-09-12 05:51 AM

Sprint rules?
 
This thing with Ferrari..

What are the basis rules for a final sprint? What are the parameters for 'holding ones line" in a sprint to the finish? It looked to me like he went a few feet to the right trying to shoot a gap, which he almost had to do in order to get around the guys in front of him. How do you get around slower riders in the sprint if you can't waver from your line at all?

DiabloScott 05-09-12 07:35 AM

Sprints
2.3.036
Riders shall be strictly forbidden to deviate from the lane they selected when launching into the

sprint and, in so doing, endangering others

The rule is simple, the enforcement is subjective. What would've been allowable is for Ferrari to position himself safely ahead of (or next to) Cavendish and THEN launch his sprint. But if you're boxed in, tough cookies.

Thulsadoom 05-09-12 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by DiabloScott (Post 14199792)
Sprints
2.3.036
Riders shall be strictly forbidden to deviate from the lane they selected when launching into the

sprint and, in so doing, endangering others

The rule is simple, the enforcement is subjective. What would've been allowable is for Ferrari to position himself safely ahead of (or next to) Cavendish and THEN launch his sprint. But if you're boxed in, tough cookies.

Thanks! I didn't know that.

slcbob 05-09-12 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by DiabloScott (Post 14199792)
The rule is simple, the enforcement is subjective.

Well said!


Originally Posted by Thulsadoom (Post 14199471)
It looked to me like he went a few feet to the right trying to shoot a gap, which he almost had to do in order to get around the guys in front of him.

??? a few ???

He crossed four or five "lanes" worth of bodies swinging wildly to the right, when he had a very reasonable path open to the left with a minimal tweak from his course that wouldn't have been considered a deviation. While there is no "had to do it" defense even when you have to do it, there is not even a shred of "had to do it" in this case.

I really don't know squat about the inner workings of this stuff, but from having watched these rulings and non-rulings for a while sort of in the way that dogs stare at ceiling fans, I've come to realize that the way the commissars emerge a fleeting expectation of "lane" relative to lines of movement and in particular other riders (hence the endangering bit) is the essence of this thing, not the euclidean geometry lane markings or "did he go straight" question.

curiouskid55 05-09-12 02:10 PM

Ferraris problem is that he's young and Italian. He does not have the expereince or the temperment(sp?) to imagine that someone else might be overtaking him(even with the world champion, not in front of him at that moment.) Also he could have had the entire left side to himself if he had broken that way initially.

slcbob 05-09-12 03:33 PM

^ At 29 and in his 7th pro year, he's not that young. No comment on how Italian he is. ;)

He was supposedly going to do some sort of mea culpa at the start today. Particularly awkward as a TTT. I haven't seen any coverage following up on how/if that went.

The WC Cyclist 05-10-12 12:48 AM

Personally I dont think there is a problem with moving out to the right there in the sprint. The problem with ferrari was he did it in a 'non-predictable' manner. He did not allow enough time for anyone behind him to adjust. Maneuvers like this happen all the time in the pro peleton, only less aggressive. If he was just a bit more slower it would have given riders behind enough time to react and there wouldnt have been any carnage.
I posted about this in my blog if you wanna check it out http://www.theworkingclasscyclist.co...r-line-dammit/

Ray R 05-10-12 10:57 AM

When judging a sprint I use the rule of thumb from the track. Once the bunch sprint is at speed there must be no deviation greater than the width of the sprinters' lane: 90 cm.


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