LemondFanForeve

Apparently, Mr. Armstrong doesn't like it & his feelings are hurt that folks still ask him if he cheated to win his TDF races, and now claims to have supposedly tested for them 500+ times(all "Negative" he claims & all while submitting NO FACTUAL PROOF that he has submitted to said 500+ negative tests). He's mad bc folks keep asking him if he's a cheater and he "wont waste his time talking about it anymore"(even though he's said that in the past & he STILL keeps talking about it, despite claiming he won't talk about it ever again).

Anyways, make/draw your own conclusions, he seems a bit butthurt in the video for someone who "wont waste their time talking about it anymore":

https://www.tmz.com/2012/05/15/lance-...-newsom-video/

Creatre

He's been over it for years. He's been tested more than any other athlete and they all appear to be negative, or have been turned negative by some form of persuasion. Everyone is free to have their own opinion at this point, but in reality, who really cares, he's a retired old man now trying to win a different sport.

slcbob

Given the high repute of the source you cite, I guess we really have to go the max to muster up sufficiently credible corroborating evidence.

Fortunately, there is a reliable audit trail here to satisfy the extremely reasonable request to document that Lance Armstrong has passed a few drug tests in his career. However, I am still looking for the incontrovertible evidence that he actually had cancer. It seems that might all be an elaborate fabrication and it has not been adequately supported in the public record to my satisfaction.

bikepro

What Lance is saying is that by now you either think he did or think he didn't cheat. In either case, your mind is made up and he's not going to try to change anyone's mind. I think this is true -- even if he could prove that he passed 1000 tests, if you think he cheated, you will still think he cheated. Personally, I don't really know, only one person knows for sure.

Farby

OP loves lance. Loves him

Siu Blue Wind

My question is - Why do YOU still keep talking about it?

Pug

I guess there wasn't enough John Travolta material to go with so Lance it was

canam73

I think it has something to do with the 'butthurt' that he keeps mentioning.

LemondFanForeve

He apparently "isnt over it for years", he's obviously still bitter/angry about it, or he just wouldnt bother saying anything.

LemondFanForeve

No matter the source, TMZ is more credible than alot of other sources. Your "audit trail proof" might not include all 500+ supposed "negative tests".

LemondFanForeve

My question is- Why do YOU care that I still talk about it.

socalrider

If you were asked the same questions over and over again for the past 15 years you would tire of it too.. Other than the 1999 B samples - there has not been much hard evidence to prove he doped.

Let him move on and hopes he does well at Ironman in October.

seanthebear

It's not only one person. Every single member of the US Postal team knows. A bunch of his friends know. The doctor who asked him if he'd ever doped knows. The other people in the room when he answered that question in the affirmative know. I could go on but I won't.

Siu Blue Wind

I really don't care, I just find it funny that not only do you not answer my question, but you chastise someone for doing the same thing YOU are! So I was curious is all. But it's okay. Your obsession is yours and yours only. Enjoy it.

papawoody

at least the OP is still on the case .... go getem !

slcbob

Fair enough. It may not have exhaustively covered each incident. But I'm confident the reliability for those that it did address is on par with TMZ.

colombo357

I dunno, this video seems to work in Lance's favor for the most part. Does that make you happy or sad?

LemondFanForeve

But you really DO care, or else(and wait for it..........)...you wouldnt be responding to a post you "dont care about". Most people who "dont care" about something pay no attention to it and dont respond to it...YOU apparently did, despite claiming otherwise.

So no no, thank YOU for proving MY point.

LemondFanForeve

Thank you. The only ones who don't "know" are the general public.

ki7he

What exactly IS your point? Why don't you just answer the question?

Bacciagalupe

I wonder if Italian cycling forums are filled with people who still worship Cipollini, and argue whether or not Pantani did EPO.

LemondFanForeve

What question would that be?

LemondFanForeve

Im sure there are...probably some w/Landis/Contador and others too.

LemondFanForeve

What question would that be? Oh right, why do i still talk about it(got it)? bc it's news & no matter what he claims, there's still a faction of people who believe he doped(even if he still wont admit to it), and it's relevant to the site. He's still scamming ppl into believing he never doped. if you're one of those folks, good for you. Hell, TMZ might still believe it somewhat, as they keep bringing it up too. Why does it bother both of you that I still keep talking about it? have I answered your question now? why not answer mine?

18hockey

Because he is obsessed with seeing LA go down. His type tend to not post here since the mods actually moderate. Take a look at cyclingnews forums or roadbikereview forums to see his kind.