Is Cadel Too Far Back To Win?
07-20-12, 01:37 AM
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Is Cadel Too Far Back To Win?
Barring any unforseen crashes in the next few days, is Cadel too far back to repeat? He had a strong team, which made me think he'd repeat, now I just dont see it. But, alot can happen in the next few days.
Any thoughts, does Wiggins have it sewn up pretty much?
Any thoughts, does Wiggins have it sewn up pretty much?
07-20-12, 01:56 AM
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You're kidding, aren't you? Evans is ten minutes behind Wiggins, eight behind Froome, almost seven behind Nibali, with one flat stage and a TT to come, and you're still thinking about him winning?
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No wait, I think it could happen. On Sunday, as Wiggo is having his champagne toast, Greg Lemond pops out of the crowd and shoves a newspaper into Wiggo's spokes. Chris Anker Sorenson is nearby and because he has experience at this, reaches down to pull the paper out. Tyler Farrar, who is not paying attention crashes into them and takes the whole peloton down. Cuddles, who had been trying to bridge the gap to a break is then pulled all the way to Paris on the wheel of, none other than, Floyd Landis.
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No wait, I think it could happen. On Sunday, as Wiggo is having his champagne toast, Greg Lemond pops out of the crowd and shoves a newspaper into Wiggo's spokes. Chris Anker Sorenson is nearby and because he has experience at this, reaches down to pull the paper out. Tyler Farrar, who is not paying attention crashes into them and takes the whole peloton down. Cuddles, who had been trying to bridge the gap to a break is then pulled all the way to Paris on the wheel of, none other than, Floyd Landis.
As Alex says in Everything is Illuminated "My grandfather informs me that is not possible."
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Not even in my wildest dreams I pictures cadel taking 12 mins out of wiggo in the ITT specially when in the same distance in a hilly terrain that was best suited for cadel, wiggo took almost 2 mins outta cadel 
The answer to the OP's question is ... Yes, he is too far back
IMO the only way for him to win is that the 4 1st positions in the GC had 4 or 5 puctures during the ITT
The answer to the OP's question is ... Yes, he is too far back
IMO the only way for him to win is that the 4 1st positions in the GC had 4 or 5 puctures during the ITT
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Are your other 1070 posts this dumb? Or are you trolling?
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Does Cadel still have those tacks he collected in his tires?
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07-20-12, 01:34 PM
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I guess if the GC is pretty much decided the only thing left is to see if Cav can make up 226 points to win the green again.
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Can anyone here think of any winner who came back from 10 minutes or more since WW II?
I found one and suspect one or 2 more. But these are all in the time when final margins were usually in the half hour range.
For those who know cycling it was the final win of the rider whose first and last wins were seperated by the largest margin.
I found one and suspect one or 2 more. But these are all in the time when final margins were usually in the half hour range.
For those who know cycling it was the final win of the rider whose first and last wins were seperated by the largest margin.
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So what I heard is that if he gets into a breakaway, and rides the Champs the required 8 laps, finishes the race, then goes back to the start and rejoins the peloton, and wins again, then he can get double points. Don't know if that's gonna be enough though...
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Can anyone here think of any winner who came back from 10 minutes or more since WW II?
I found one and suspect one or 2 more. But these are all in the time when final margins were usually in the half hour range.
For those who know cycling it was the final win of the rider whose first and last wins were seperated by the largest margin.
I found one and suspect one or 2 more. But these are all in the time when final margins were usually in the half hour range.
For those who know cycling it was the final win of the rider whose first and last wins were seperated by the largest margin.
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Looks like you found a different Wiki than I did. Wha ti found did not give give the time, but gave why. Infighting within the Italian team. Remember that was the National Team era for the TDF and Italy had 2 of the top Cyclists in History. Egos were a huge problem.
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https://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/
Has stage details including the GC for the top 10 at the end of each stage. A bit of a problem as Coppi was outside the top 10 a lot before stage 7.
But taking his GC place at the end of 7 which was 28:03 back and adding in his margin in stage 7 over the GC leader 7:32 and also an additional minute which seems to be the bonus for winning a stage and it comes out to 36:35. Similar calculations for Stage 10 gives 31:51.
Neither is 55 minutes.
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I think Wiki is wrong again!
https://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/
Has stage details including the GC for the top 10 at the end of each stage. A bit of a problem as Coppi was outside the top 10 a lot before stage 7.
But taking his GC place at the end of 7 which was 28:03 back and adding in his margin in stage 7 over the GC leader 7:32 and also an additional minute which seems to be the bonus for winning a stage and it comes out to 36:35. Similar calculations for Stage 10 gives 31:51.
Neither is 55 minutes.
https://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/
Has stage details including the GC for the top 10 at the end of each stage. A bit of a problem as Coppi was outside the top 10 a lot before stage 7.
But taking his GC place at the end of 7 which was 28:03 back and adding in his margin in stage 7 over the GC leader 7:32 and also an additional minute which seems to be the bonus for winning a stage and it comes out to 36:35. Similar calculations for Stage 10 gives 31:51.
Neither is 55 minutes.
Incidentally, I don't know whether you caught up with my reply about Romaine and Sylvere Maes, but it looks as if wiki was right about them not being related.
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unless all ahead of him crash, i don't see him coming in first.
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Can anyone here think of any winner who came back from 10 minutes or more since WW II?
I found one and suspect one or 2 more. But these are all in the time when final margins were usually in the half hour range.
For those who know cycling it was the final win of the rider whose first and last wins were seperated by the largest margin.
I found one and suspect one or 2 more. But these are all in the time when final margins were usually in the half hour range.
For those who know cycling it was the final win of the rider whose first and last wins were seperated by the largest margin.
07-20-12, 04:26 PM
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No, but both are more than half an hour, which is a lot more than ten minutes! LOL. Apparently Coppi was already well behind when he crashed and broke his bike. Damn, I wish I'd seen him.
Incidentally, I don't know whether you caught up with my reply about Romaine and Sylvere Maes, but it looks as if wiki was right about them not being related.
Incidentally, I don't know whether you caught up with my reply about Romaine and Sylvere Maes, but it looks as if wiki was right about them not being related.
What evidence did yuo dfind that they were not brothers?