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Old 07-28-12, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by hyhuu View Post
How would they know the time gap? I didn't see any motorcycle with a chalk board.
They did the box hill loop 9 times passing their support team every lap. It's not rocket science to communicate a time gap to someone from the sidelines.
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Old 07-28-12, 10:14 PM
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Please, give the religion and politics stuff a miss. It invariably results in threads being derailed and ultimately closed. If you want to slag off America go to the politics and religion forum. This is pro cycling, we can do without the xenophobic bollocks.
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I'm not editing any posts, but could we drop the politics. If you can't stand not responding to something above, please report and I'll rethink editing.
I'm firmly for this. I 'm really in it for the sport. Yes, I would have loved to see an American win, but to trash the host nation's people over the internet is really lame. I'm glad to see someone as unexpected as Vino win today. I don't care about what country produced the winner. The UK has been responsible for the invention of bicycles, so without them, this forum would not have existed.

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The segment on those kids in the Isle of Man Cycling Club was pretty cool. That's a good way to develop some talents.
I too loved this part and it made me want to move to the Isle of Man to have a real life cycling community experience.
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Sky wasn't racing...
Tell that to Bernie Eisel!
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Old 07-29-12, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
They did the box hill loop 9 times passing their support team every lap. It's not rocket science to communicate a time gap to someone from the sidelines.

You are aware that all the team organisers complained that this was a big factor? Its not just idle chit chat, its fact.
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Old 07-29-12, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cincipeddler View Post
You are aware that all the team organisers complained that this was a big factor? Its not just idle chit chat, its fact.
No, it is not fact. It is losers making excuses.
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Old 07-29-12, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
No, it is not fact. It is losers making excuses.
Even the winners mentioned the not knowing how quick the peloton were coming?!

Maybe this forum needs to just be chasm54 telling it how it is.......you are the king of the forum after all.........wonder if you have ever agreed with anyone?
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Old 07-29-12, 11:05 AM
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I'd love it if they got rid of the radios for all races. It's such a different dynamic.
Completely agree with you on this point.
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Old 07-29-12, 11:24 AM
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I will admit I am not an expert cyclist nor do I fully understand all the dynamics of a bike race. However, I don't understand how Cavendish can whine about other teams not helping them. It's a 155 miles race right? Being carted up to the front to "race" for 200 meters does not make you a great all around cyclist. It makes you a great sprinter. I freakin hate watching Cavendish race and claim his victory's. What's the point in being in a road race if all your ever going to do is wait until the very end to win? Everyone knows he's the greatest sprinter in the world, why would they help him? It's no different than double teaming Kobe or Lebron. Can you imagine them saying "I don't understand why they have to double team me all the time"? Has he ever been in a breakaway? He is a whiny A** B****. That kid Sagan is the real deal. He is a true warrior. He puts it all on the line, and it's freakin awesome to watch. To me that is what cycling is all about. I don't want to see someone get a pedicure for 6 hours and race for 30 seconds.
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Old 07-29-12, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by milescycling View Post
I will admit I am not an expert cyclist nor do I fully understand all the dynamics of a bike race. However, I don't understand how Cavendish can whine about other teams not helping them. It's a 155 miles race right? Being carted up to the front to "race" for 200 meters does not make you a great all around cyclist. It makes you a great sprinter. I freakin hate watching Cavendish race and claim his victory's. What's the point in being in a road race if all your ever going to do is wait until the very end to win? Everyone knows he's the greatest sprinter in the world, why would they help him? It's no different than double teaming Kobe or Lebron. Can you imagine them saying "I don't understand why they have to double team me all the time"? Has he ever been in a breakaway? He is a whiny A** B****. That kid Sagan is the real deal. He is a true warrior. He puts it all on the line, and it's freakin awesome to watch. To me that is what cycling is all about. I don't want to see someone get a pedicure for 6 hours and race for 30 seconds.
2012 Olympic Men's Road Race Results:

29th place: Mark Cavendish

34th place: Peter Sagan
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Old 07-29-12, 01:54 PM
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I watched the footage again. There was a motorcycle with a chalkboard at the breakaway group, but I didn't get to see what was on it due to the camera angle.
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Old 07-29-12, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cincipeddler View Post
......wonder if you have ever agreed with anyone?
I tend to agree with people who make sense. Draw your own conclusions.
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Old 07-29-12, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dudelsack View Post
3. Road racing without mention of dancing on the pedals in anger with a suitcase of courage just isn't the same.
Don't forget "road furniture." Or did I miss them saying it?
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Old 07-29-12, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
I tend to agree with people who make sense. Draw your own conclusions.
Hmmm lets see, do i listen to you, a jumped up, pompous cycling guru.....OR the long list of cyclists, team chiefs and organisers who mentioned these very issues?
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Old 07-29-12, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cincipeddler View Post
You are aware that all the team organisers complained that this was a big factor? Its not just idle chit chat, its fact.
Coaches whine about bad calls from refs all the time. complaining about something doesn't make it a 'fact'. The excuse book for losers in cycling is pretty thick. If it wasn't the lack of radios it would have been something else. They've raced without radios before and it's not like it was a surprise.

Did the 20+ guys in the break need radios to tell them Vino and Uran were ahead of them and needed to be chased down? Did they need a team director yelling at them to pedal harder?

Maybe Uran should have had a radio so his coach could tell him to watch Vino instead of looking back for 10 secs with 200m to go.
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Old 07-29-12, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nerull View Post
2012 Olympic Men's Road Race Results:

29th place: Mark Cavendish

34th place: Peter Sagan
Super Team vs No Team and only 5 places ahead...Hmmm that's weird.
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Originally Posted by Nerull View Post
2012 Olympic Men's Road Race Results:

29th place: Mark Cavendish

34th place: Peter Sagan
Your point? Cav had a team. Wasn't Sagan the only one from Slovakia and he was right there. He may never be as fast in a sprint be he's got a bright future.
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So you all are trying to make a point off of who did and didn't feel like contesting a field sprint when the peloton came in 20+ riders down?

Brilliant!!!
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