WC Elite Women - what happened at the last km?
09-27-14, 09:49 AM
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WC Elite Women - what happened at the last km?
Can someone please explain what the rationale was behind this:
during the last km, the leading pack of 4 riders were ahead by about 10 secs. Then a bizarre thing happened, they collectively let go, essentially stop pedaling and let the chasing group caught up to them. The ultimate winner was not from this group of 4.
I don't get it. This did not seem like the scenario in which a lone tired rider would inevitably get caught. And it certainly did not look like it's a case that these 4 women were waiting for one another to act first. They deliberately waited for the riders behind them! If the leading 4 kept working among themselves, there was a 75% chance for each individual to get on the podium (assumed they could maintain the lead) yet they allowed the peloton behind them to catch them and "dilute" their own chance to get on the podium?
What gives? What kind of strategy could this be?
during the last km, the leading pack of 4 riders were ahead by about 10 secs. Then a bizarre thing happened, they collectively let go, essentially stop pedaling and let the chasing group caught up to them. The ultimate winner was not from this group of 4.
I don't get it. This did not seem like the scenario in which a lone tired rider would inevitably get caught. And it certainly did not look like it's a case that these 4 women were waiting for one another to act first. They deliberately waited for the riders behind them! If the leading 4 kept working among themselves, there was a 75% chance for each individual to get on the podium (assumed they could maintain the lead) yet they allowed the peloton behind them to catch them and "dilute" their own chance to get on the podium?
What gives? What kind of strategy could this be?
09-27-14, 10:40 AM
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News reports haven't really filtered in yet, but I have no idea either, unless Vos knew she wasn't going to win, and thought "screw you all, if I don't win, neither are you". It was all about Vos in the final 4, and if Vos knew she didn't have the legs, maybe she didn't want one of the other top women riders getting a free ride to the jersey. It's kind of smart on her part, why tow the others to the line and watch someone else win? It was up to the other 3 to continue the pace. Looks like none of them really had it. In fact, the whole race was rather boring, softpedaling almost the whole race... although maybe they were spooked by the spectacular crash early on.
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Originally Posted by totalnewbie
Can someone please explain what the rationale was behind this:
during the last km, the leading pack of 4 riders were ahead by about 10 secs. Then a bizarre thing happened, they collectively let go, essentially stop pedaling and let the chasing group caught up to them. The ultimate winner was not from this group of 4.
I don't get it. This did not seem like the scenario in which a lone tired rider would inevitably get caught. And it certainly did not look like it's a case that these 4 women were waiting for one another to act first. They deliberately waited for the riders behind them! If the leading 4 kept working among themselves, there was a 75% chance for each individual to get on the podium (assumed they could maintain the lead) yet they allowed the peloton behind them to catch them and "dilute" their own chance to get on the podium?
What gives? What kind of strategy could this be?
during the last km, the leading pack of 4 riders were ahead by about 10 secs. Then a bizarre thing happened, they collectively let go, essentially stop pedaling and let the chasing group caught up to them. The ultimate winner was not from this group of 4.
I don't get it. This did not seem like the scenario in which a lone tired rider would inevitably get caught. And it certainly did not look like it's a case that these 4 women were waiting for one another to act first. They deliberately waited for the riders behind them! If the leading 4 kept working among themselves, there was a 75% chance for each individual to get on the podium (assumed they could maintain the lead) yet they allowed the peloton behind them to catch them and "dilute" their own chance to get on the podium?
What gives? What kind of strategy could this be?
09-27-14, 12:37 PM
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Johansson wan't contributing but gambling for a free ride, because she didn't feel confident in the sprint.
But, she partially gambled correct since she's wearing a medal.
The other women need not complain or blame Johansson though. They had it in their hands to keep going and push for a medal.
Playing games is stupid and they squandered their advantage. Pointing fingers is silly, because who knows, they might have all sprinted past Johansson anyway if it stayed away.
But, she partially gambled correct since she's wearing a medal.
The other women need not complain or blame Johansson though. They had it in their hands to keep going and push for a medal.
Playing games is stupid and they squandered their advantage. Pointing fingers is silly, because who knows, they might have all sprinted past Johansson anyway if it stayed away.
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Originally Posted by cruiserhead
Johansson wan't contributing but gambling for a free ride, because she didn't feel confident in the sprint.
But, she partially gambled correct since she's wearing a medal.
The other women need not complain or blame Johansson though. They had it in their hands to keep going and push for a medal.
Playing games is stupid and they squandered their advantage. Pointing fingers is silly, because who knows, they might have all sprinted past Johansson anyway if it stayed away.
But, she partially gambled correct since she's wearing a medal.
The other women need not complain or blame Johansson though. They had it in their hands to keep going and push for a medal.
Playing games is stupid and they squandered their advantage. Pointing fingers is silly, because who knows, they might have all sprinted past Johansson anyway if it stayed away.
Armitstead really wasn't complaining, just telling it matter of fact.
09-27-14, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
In all honesty...I'm always impressed by how friendly and calm the women's peloton is after a race and how at the end of the day the riders are all usually on the same side. Whereas it is the men's peloton where all the pissing matches and cat fighting takes place both on ("Prize Fighter" Brambilla anyone?) and off the bike (Crash Froome vs Braddo).
Armitstead really wasn't complaining, just telling it matter of fact.
Armitstead really wasn't complaining, just telling it matter of fact.
There are a lot fewer of them, so that also contributes to the more "us" vs "them" mentality but
Womens peloton is no different than the mens
Just because the women are poorly covered by the media, don't think they are angels.
09-27-14, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
In all honesty...I'm always impressed by how friendly and calm the women's peloton is after a race and how at the end of the day the riders are all usually on the same side.
Or these interviews with Sue Novara Reber and Mieke Havik at 10:50.
Can you be on the "wrong side" of someone's wheel ?
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