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Old 03-23-15, 01:45 PM
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I can't stand it....

UCI check 36 Milan-San Remo bikes for motors | Cyclingnews.com

A new low...
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Old 03-23-15, 02:15 PM
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sounds like a Saturday Night Live skit. i hope they used their Tri-Corders to scan for Matter-AntiMatter Ion drives too. i know they exist, i've seen it on TV.

OTOH, those darn Astana boys might be up to no-good again.

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Old 03-25-15, 06:36 AM
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Its not the first time this has happened, Contador was accused of having secreted motors a few years back, after he pulled away from the pack in a stage of a race. The conspiracy nuts must have put a bug in someone's ear. There was a diagram of how a motor system could be put in the down tube, strange thinking to me, but that seems to be the norm these days, everywhere.

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and they are draining the Cape Cod canal for maintenance work

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The Gruber Assist has been around for a long time. This is a motor that fits in the downtube and drives the bottom bracket spindle through a bevel gear. Adds about 200 watts. Reportedly very noisy, such that the use of the motor is obvious to anyone nearby. But maybe the UCI is worried that, or has heard that, a quieter version has been developed.
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I'm curious, I don't have deep fandom to tell me the answer. Has a motor ever actually been found?
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Wasn't Cancellara suspected about 5 years ago? And then there was the vid of Hesjedal's back wheel spinning "impossibly" after his crash at the Giro.

You have to say, this kind of "cheating," even if it actually is taking place, leaves a less *****ty taste in the mouth than any amount of EPO/HGH/blood bags would.

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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
I'm curious, I don't have deep fandom to tell me the answer. Has a motor ever actually been found?
Not to my knowledge. Doesn't mean it's not worth cracking down on.
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I honestly think the back wheel was just momentum, but that's the video.
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Let's see check for non-existent motors or test for widespread doping....
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The Gruber Assist has been around for a long time.
fascinating

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Let's see check for non-existent motors or test for widespread doping....
Can't it be both?

They didn't check for the doping in the 30s, 40s and 50s, and that's when it all blew up (if not before). If they had been proactive back then, it might not be nearly such an issue now.

Now that they know the tech exists to install small electric motors in downtubes and wherever else on the bike, maybe it's worthwhile getting ahead of the game and making sure they don't catch on.
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Originally Posted by jyl View Post
The Gruber Assist has been around for a long time. This is a motor that fits in the downtube and drives the bottom bracket spindle through a bevel gear. Adds about 200 watts. Reportedly very noisy, such that the use of the motor is obvious to anyone nearby. But maybe the UCI is worried that, or has heard that, a quieter version has been developed.
the provenence possibly from the signature "take down" move of the famous professional german father and son tag team of Robert and Norbert Grupe (aka Wilhelm "Handsome Bill" Von Homburg).



the father, in the picture above where they are obviously recounting memories of a recent fishing trip, bearing a striking resemblance to the Kaiser (the one with the bird on his head pictured below) Wilhelm II, i think.



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Seems pretty easy to check for motors, so why not do a few well-publicized surprise checks to discourage any experimenters. I'd think they can combine those checks with controls for bike weight and other technical regulations too.
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Seems pretty easy to check for motors, so why not do a few well-publicized surprise checks to discourage any experimenters. I'd think they can combine those checks with controls for bike weight and other technical regulations too.
One nasty twist with motors or for that matter any illegal advantage in the bike is that in a tour the illegal part can be used it give a top rider or for that matter even a valued lt. a de facto rest day.

Drug testing has tended to have one advantage, there are still traces on the day the advantage takes effect. Not so for mechanical cheats if they are smart enough to use it to instead get their rider to a crucial stage better rested.
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