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Old 07-19-05, 09:03 PM
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Why do all my friends hate recumbents?

I'm a bike person, I own half a dozen; road, mountain, commuting, touring etc., and my friends are all avid cyclers too.

So why do they hate recumbents? Whenever I bring up the subject I'm told recumbents are stupid, slow, hard to see, don't handle rough roads, can't climb hills, only ridden by social deviants.
They say to me "If they are so good why don't more people ride them?"

I think I may have to get one for myself.
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Old 07-19-05, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by skookum
I'm a bike person, I own half a dozen; road, mountain, commuting, touring etc., and my friends are all avid cyclers too.

So why do they hate recumbents? Whenever I bring up the subject I'm told recumbents are stupid, slow, hard to see, don't handle rough roads, can't climb hills, only ridden by social deviants.
They say to me "If they are so good why don't more people ride them?"

I think I may have to get one for myself.
yep, know what you mean .... so i got one as well and have never looked back [well you can't really without wobbling or falling off ]
oddly, my workmates were really keen to get the bike built up, but once it was built, they weren't keen to try it out!
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they are slow? quite a few roadies have gotten beat up on pretty badly by some recumbent riders around here. You guys and your aero fairings and low profile.... it's hard for a roadie like me to keep up! Then you just lay back in your chair and take your drink from the cup holder and and laugh as i labor to keep up!! *sigh*
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Originally Posted by skookum
I'm a bike person, I own half a dozen; road, mountain, commuting, touring etc., and my friends are all avid cyclers too.

So why do they hate recumbents? Whenever I bring up the subject I'm told recumbents are stupid, slow, hard to see, don't handle rough roads, can't climb hills, only ridden by social deviants.
They say to me "If they are so good why don't more people ride them?"

I think I may have to get one for myself.
Simple - Ignorance
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Old 07-20-05, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by skookum

So why do they hate recumbents?
Around here they rent them to people who zig zag their way all over the recreational bike paths.
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Originally Posted by andrewh
Simple - Ignorance
Also FUD, jealousy, prejudice, etc.

People don't ride them more because you can't go down to wal-mart and pick one up for $99.87.
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Old 07-20-05, 10:53 AM
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people are scared of new things. bents are not new but they really have not shown up much till latly. I don't care how good a new thing is people will run away from it.
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Why? I'll bet none of those guys has ever ridden a recumbent. It's easy to have an opinion on anything. Knowledge or experience are not required; fear, ignorance and hate will suffice. Of course, it's up to you to choose which kind of opinions you value.
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Originally Posted by skookum
Whenever I bring up the subject I'm told recumbents are stupid, slow, hard to see, don't handle rough roads, can't climb hills, only ridden by social deviants.
I love riding with people like that They don't usually make such ignorant claims a second time.

Tell 'em, don't blame the bike for the rider. Just because they see a few slow wobbly riders on 'bents doesn't mean it's the 'bent's fault. If we put those same riders on racing bikes, then maybe your buddies would have the bad rep through association!
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Some of the meanest disrespectful people I've ever met ride bikes... AND... some of the nicest people I've ever met ride bikes. Not much in the middle I'm afraid...
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Originally Posted by JLB
Some of the meanest disrespectful people I've ever met ride bikes... AND... some of the nicest people I've ever met ride bikes. Not much in the middle I'm afraid...
The people in the middle drive cars. They are "normal."
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
I love riding with people like that They don't usually make such ignorant claims a second time.
I stopped by my club's fast ride the other day just to say 'hello' and then continue on my way. One of the local racers kept making fun of my Aero and my Shimano sandals. At that point, I decided to ride along with them for awhile despite already having 30 miles in of my own. After winning a few sprints and dropping the group several times, the guy finally conceded not being able to keep up. I told him I hope when he tells his buddies about the night's ride, that he remembers to mention how he kept getting dropped by the fat old guy wearing sandals on the 22# recumbent.
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Originally Posted by skookum
So why do they hate recumbents? Whenever I bring up the subject I'm told recumbents are stupid, slow, hard to see, don't handle rough roads, can't climb hills, only ridden by social deviants.
They say to me "If they are so good why don't more people ride them?
Why is anything different hated?

Pure ignorance. Note: I do not mean to be insulting or disrespectful of your friends. But, they have probably never ridden one for anytime at all. So they are truly ignorant to what they do and are capable of doing.
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Originally Posted by jeff-o
The people in the middle drive cars. They are "normal."
Yikes... now you're scarin' me!
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So why do they hate recumbents? Whenever I bring up the subject I'm told recumbents are stupid, slow, hard to see, don't handle rough roads, can't climb hills, only ridden by social deviants.
They say to me "If they are so good why don't more people ride them?"


Yea they suck, Recubs are for cycling Dorks.
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A few years ago my recumbent riding buddy and I showed up at the local Sunday AM ride. These are pretty good riders and we have rode with them before. On new guy said, Are you gonna ride with us on them? The regulars about crapped cause they knew we would set a torrid pace just to beat up on the new guy. 40 miles later the group of 7 was 4. The old recumbent riders and the two best riders in the group. Most riders that dis recumbents have not come across a really accomplished bentrider on a LowRacer or a HighRacer recumbent. These are what the fast bentriders ride.
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I ride with the racing crowd all the time. They've come to accept me and don't make any crude comments since they know that I can whoop all of them silly. I must admit however that last night on a hilly 52 mile course with a bunch of cat1 and 2's, that I got dropped on a big hill and it took me the last 7 miles to catch back up to the pack. I did manage to just come back up on their tails as they were turning into the parking lot. This group of guys I have beat really bad many times but also they've beaten me pretty bad a number of times also. Last night I made the mistake of making a break from the pack too early. I sprinted away from the pack that was already doing a pace of 28mph. I wanted to gain some ground on them in an attempt to get to the top of the toughest climb before they got to the hill. It took a 30 to 32 mph effort for a couple miles to get far ahead of them. It wasn't enough of a lead. They caught me half way up and I was out of gas to do their pace up the hill. After the top of the hill there is a 4 mile stretch of all downhill in which I can maintain 40 to 45 mph. The pack usually holds 35 mph on this downhill stretch. They got enough of a lead on me on that climb that it took me 7 miles to catch back up. I passed a few other riders that also got dropped on that stretch like they were standing still.
In order to beat them, I'll have to maintain my past method of sticking with the pack saving some energy to hammer up the climb with them. Once to the top and even if they get a 100 yard lead on me, 2 minutes later they are toast when I fly by them. Then its hammer time all the way back to the parking lot 7 miles away. I averaged a final speed of 23.8mph for the 52 miles.

Tonight my legs were toast or so I thought for the 30 mile fast ride with another group on a mostly flat course but through large fields where there is always some wind. I got to the ride a bit late and was still unloading my bike when the pack started out. I had a 4 minute deficit to catch up on. It took roughly 7 miles for me to catch the pack. Once I caught them I hung at the back for a couple miles to recover a bit from my high speed effort in catching them. Once recovered I passed the paceline and got into a good 28 mph pace ocassionally touching 30mph. I was pretty whipped from the night before and the pack did catch back up to me about 5 miles from the finish. A couple riders attempted to get passed me, but this was all the encouragement I needed to do a 35mph pull away. Once I felt I had enough distance between myself and the pack, I eased my pace back up a bit to the 27mph range. It was enough to not even have to sprint for the finish line if it hadn't have been for John Foltz sneeking up on me near the end. I had my best average speed tonight with a 25mph flat for the 30 miles. John said he ended up with a 24.1mph average and he rode with the pack the entire way except near the end where he outsprinted the guys.

This ride I normally about mile 2 sprint out ahead and solo the 28 remaining miles as far out in front of the pack as I can. On a good night I can usually beat them back by around 4 to 5 minutes.
Nobody there thinks my bike is dorky. They are afraid of it though.
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Old 07-20-05, 09:29 PM
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You're right none of my friends have ever ridden one,
but they are all knowledgeable bike people. We all know somebody who has one.

What is your bike lowracer1?
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Originally Posted by skookum
They say to me "If they are so good why don't more people ride them?"

I think I may have to get one for myself.
I think if you did, you would be among a growing group of people who are now riding them.

I used to see maybe one or two bents each time I was out. This last weekend I saw at least seven of them and that was in about only 150 other bikes.
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Originally Posted by lowracer1
I ride with the racing crowd all the time. They've come to accept me and don't make any crude comments since they know that I can whoop all of them silly. I must admit however that last night on a hilly 52 mile course with a bunch of cat1 and 2's, that I got dropped on a big hill and it took me the last 7 miles to catch back up to the pack. I did manage to just come back up on their tails as they were turning into the parking lot. This group of guys I have beat really bad many times but also they've beaten me pretty bad a number of times also. Last night I made the mistake of making a break from the pack too early. I sprinted away from the pack that was already doing a pace of 28mph. I wanted to gain some ground on them in an attempt to get to the top of the toughest climb before they got to the hill. It took a 30 to 32 mph effort for a couple miles to get far ahead of them. It wasn't enough of a lead. They caught me half way up and I was out of gas to do their pace up the hill. After the top of the hill there is a 4 mile stretch of all downhill in which I can maintain 40 to 45 mph. The pack usually holds 35 mph on this downhill stretch. They got enough of a lead on me on that climb that it took me 7 miles to catch back up. I passed a few other riders that also got dropped on that stretch like they were standing still.
In order to beat them, I'll have to maintain my past method of sticking with the pack saving some energy to hammer up the climb with them. Once to the top and even if they get a 100 yard lead on me, 2 minutes later they are toast when I fly by them. Then its hammer time all the way back to the parking lot 7 miles away. I averaged a final speed of 23.8mph for the 52 miles.

Tonight my legs were toast or so I thought for the 30 mile fast ride with another group on a mostly flat course but through large fields where there is always some wind. I got to the ride a bit late and was still unloading my bike when the pack started out. I had a 4 minute deficit to catch up on. It took roughly 7 miles for me to catch the pack. Once I caught them I hung at the back for a couple miles to recover a bit from my high speed effort in catching them. Once recovered I passed the paceline and got into a good 28 mph pace ocassionally touching 30mph. I was pretty whipped from the night before and the pack did catch back up to me about 5 miles from the finish. A couple riders attempted to get passed me, but this was all the encouragement I needed to do a 35mph pull away. Once I felt I had enough distance between myself and the pack, I eased my pace back up a bit to the 27mph range. It was enough to not even have to sprint for the finish line if it hadn't have been for John Foltz sneeking up on me near the end. I had my best average speed tonight with a 25mph flat for the 30 miles. John said he ended up with a 24.1mph average and he rode with the pack the entire way except near the end where he outsprinted the guys.

This ride I normally about mile 2 sprint out ahead and solo the 28 remaining miles as far out in front of the pack as I can. On a good night I can usually beat them back by around 4 to 5 minutes.
Nobody there thinks my bike is dorky. They are afraid of it though.
man thats fast (G)
but hell I have been matching and sometimes beating my dc 22 pound racing bike on my burley limbo. a bit slower up hills but faster on the flats. that bike is 37 pounds
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Originally Posted by jeff-o
The people in the middle drive cars. They are "normal."
Normal? Gee it's nice not to be normal.
As far as I am concerned it's about finding where you like to be and then going there - and for me thats riding a recumbent. If you want to drive - fill your boots but please don't call that "normal" because there is no such thing. Nothing like that is black or white, there is always a shade of both.

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Originally Posted by pacesetter
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So why do they hate recumbents? Whenever I bring up the subject I'm told recumbents are stupid, slow, hard to see, don't handle rough roads, can't climb hills, only ridden by social deviants.
They say to me "If they are so good why don't more people ride them?"


Yea they suck, Recubs are for cycling Dorks.
Thanks for calling me a dork - which is pretty good since you don't even know me, and I'll wager you don't know any recumbent riders personally either so your statement can only be made out of ignorance.

BTW - If you have never ridden a recumbent you will never know how much fun and enjoyment you can have on one.

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The "true dork" is the one who goes around labeling other people as "dorks".

Projection and ignorance, projection and ignorance.
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I originally took pacesetter's remark as a sarcastic response to the roadie attitude. But after looking at his profile I see he's a roadie himself. So now I'll mentally file his statement under 'troll' and disregard him.

Regarding Chris' tale of last night's ride, there were about 15 riders left for the final sprint. Usually the lead group breaks up by mid-ride, so there's only a few bikes chasing us. The larger group gave them the advantage to keep close to Chris; and they were still pulling 27 mph on the flats, at the end of the 30 mile ride. But their pacelining was getting sloppy. Sometime after I squirted off the front with a mile to go, one of the guys in back caught his front wheel, with predictable results. I hear he went down hard, and was given a nice ride by the good EMTs of the volunteer fire dept.
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