aikigreg

Yeah all you frigging recumbent riders ought to be ashamed of yourselves. You must suffer for speed and sport! You must enjoy the feeling of being poked in the butt!

I need to go start trolling in the roadie forum.

plainsdrifter

Mars,

I don't think the argument concerning this thread has to do with the speed issue so much, but more with the issue of somebody out on a ride and talking about, maybe even coming across as bragging, how he was dropping people. Plus the vid just added fuel to the fire. Roadies rip on other roadies all the time when this topic comes up. Check it out in the roadie section, it's hilarious. IMO if you replaced the roadies in lowracer's clip with two bent riders, he would get ripped just the same, doesn't matter what mode of transport is involved.

Like I said in a previous post, #70 I think, if he would have set the clip up differently, there wouldn't have been a spew fest.

G'day

Olebiker

Everyone knows bents are fast. Fred Markham and John Schlitter have demonstrated that, but the OP's post reminded me of the time a guy at school was bragging about how far he got with my sister at the drive-in movie (that tells you how old I am). He made the mistake of letting my father, who knew that my sister had been at home that night, overhear him. He didn't go to my Dad and make the claim, but my Dad overheard it and called him to task for it.

It's the same thing here. It's not just bent riders that read this forum. If you want to send an E-mail and video to your recumbent-rider buddies and brag about how you smoked some roadies, you can expect some privacy. When you come onto a forum like this and make claims that your video shows are pure baloney, don't get bent out of shape when someone calls you on it.

redfooj

yeah, i cant think of anything more juvenile than that... except perhaps this segregational us vs them mentality youre so "bent" on...

Eyeseeu

Wow, I thought this horse would be dead by now, but people are still beating it!

Trsnrtr

I was just thinking the same thing.

DrPete 

I am completely comfortable on my bike when I ride it. Glad you are too. Does the fact that you can't get comfortable on a DF bike make you a better cyclist too? Boy, that almost sounds absurd.

I agree that bents are fast, and that's all fine and good. I'm also constantly amused by how you think that owning one and using the speed advantage to be faster than a roadie somehow makes you a stronger cyclist.

Since it's very well spelled-out in the rules of bicycle RACING, "races" are contested when everyone is on similar equipment, there is a start line and a finish line, and everyone has agreed that it is, in fact, a race. And everyone's invited to participate on the grounds that they don't hide behind their equipment. Petty contests on flag-mandatory rec rides aren't races.

BTW, if friends that I ride with gave me my user name, is it still not cool by 'bent rider standards? Last I checked, "Mars" had nothing at all to do with cycling, although I'm guessing that someone who chooses to insult people on the internet while naming himself after the god of war has enough issues to deal with that the username thing is pretty far down the list.

...and I was on the football team.

lowracer1

" But that doesn't prove anything either, except that bent's have no business on half-pipes which we already know."

ok, and I suppose that means that you roadies feel that bents have no business to be on the road also.

Too funny. I haven't posted anything here in months and look! I've got the most replies.

I seems that if the road bikers had stayed over in their own forum, there also wouldn't be so many replies.

I guess their pride gets damaged very easily.

I'd like to hear what the solo century times are for these guys ripping on me. Sure they can get a pretty decent time in a pack, but what about solo? The other comment about saying that bents are going to get dropped on a climb? I don't see how you can figure that when we are already 2 miles ahead of you?

My best solo nonstop century time in a 100 mile timetrial race is 4:13:26
I highly doubt any of you ripping on me can touch that without attaching a moped motor to your bikes.

DrPete 

Boy, I don't know. I need to sleep on that one. Try asking me in the morning after I put on my uniform to go serve it so you have a place to live where you're free to be an a$$hole.

DrPete 

Go right ahead. Plenty of people over there get shredded when they brag about dropping people in their self-proclaimed races too. Seems a lot of bent riders would fit right in.

aikigreg

Like I said before, I'll drop you on my upright just as easily as my bent. You can pick your poison, but either way you'll still be smelling my exhaust.

....and I was state judo champion and on the wrestling team - state ranked. WTF does that have to do with anything? You want to compare schlongs as well? You win - I'm built like a tuna can.

DrPete 

If you're talking about the football thing, it was in reference to a comment Mars made about getting a wedgie from the football team. You can keep your schlong in your pants.

Wow--almost looked like a comparison of athlete to athlete there rather than athlete to athlete + aerodynamics, in which case I'd be happy to smell your exhaust.

MisterBent

Dr. Pete,
Have you seen the pictures of fast bents here:
https://recumbuttman.blogspot.com/

Show it to all your racing friends.

MisterBent

BlazingPedals

HPVA rules classify bikes by the degree of fairing. The OP's bike and the uprights were both stock class, so I don't see an issue. The specific platform is the riders' choice. They understood aerodynamics enough to cut their flags down to hip height and echelon into the headwind to catch a SINGLE rider, they just weren't willing to go the final step and ride faster bikes. If you want to preach your narrow view about UCI or USCF rules, do it on a forum that cares. When you do it here, you're just being a carpet-bagger.

I haven't asked, but I presumed that Mars was a reference to the Metro Area Recumbent Society. Feel free to Google it.

Chickenlipz

Obviously you don't, if a previous statement of your's is any indication: "What I keep seeing is guys in this forum talking about how fast they are and how they blow the doors off roadies day in and day out. What I NEVER see is any bent riders on the road actually passing anyone except other bent riders".
No one is asking for, or expecting privacy here. Like I've asked before, If I go to a Redskins forum and somebody says they can kick the Cowboy's A$$, should I be surprised to see that? Should I even care?
The thing that is so laughable, is these roadies that have gotten their lycra all in a bunch, and think they are gonna come over here and set us straight.

Mars

+1

Mars

I numbered the praragraphs in this post to organize my response.
1) It sure does. Good thng that you are the only one who said it. By the way, did you see that there is even more evidence linking roadie seats to male erection problems?...Say, that doesn't have anything to do with your obvious anger and resentment, does it?

2) No one said that.

3) Dude, you and the other roadies don't get to define reality for everyone else. If those roadies were trying their hardest (and they said they were) then that is a race in my book. If you don't agree, well we all heard your opinon on the matter.

4) Wow, that was harsh. I mean, really. But it is now obvious to everyone who reads this forum that anyone who chooses a name like Mars has some real "issues" to deal with. I'll get on that right away.

5) haha, I never REALLY thought that the football team gave you wedgies for God's sake! That was a metaphor....

But you know, I'm starting to think that you might hate America.

plainsdrifter

+1. From the way they're reacting you can tell some think that this is their private bent rider forum. And I believe that if you wanted to be accepted into their private forum, you would have to suffer the following symptons indicative of Bent membership:

Illusions of invulnerability

Unquestioned belief in the inherent morality of the group

Collective rationalization of group's decisions

Shared stereotypes of others, particularly roadies

Self-censorship; members withhold crticisms

Illusions of unanimity

Direct pressure on dissenters to conform

self appointed "mindguards" protect the group from negative information

G'day

Mars

Holy jumping bald headed skate boarding christ. Tell me you are not that big a morAn! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! You thought I was REALLY accusing you of hating America because you didn't agree with lowracer's take on the race!?!?!?!?!

Mars

Wow, we sound like Republicans.

Chickenlipz

How so? I don't recall anyone here asking you guys not to post on this forum. If you're talking about the pro bent nature of most of the regulars here, well, hell....what do you expect?

Even if that were true, I don't understand why you would even care.

DrPete 

Never before have I seen super soakers and Zipps mounted on the same bike. ANYONE can appreciate that... Sweet.

Beez

Oh, for cryin' out loud, why must you be such a prick about such niggling details?

Let me preface the following by saying that I don't ride a recumbent, I ride one of your precious "DF" road bikes. I only read this forum because I secretly dream of owning a Bacchetta highracer, and I'm trying to wear down my willpower so that I can look the other way when I buy yet ANOTHER expensive bicycle.

<begin rant>
I don't know what world you're living in, but where I live cyclists are some of the most hyper-competitve types that I meet. Almost EVERY time that I ride I see or am involved in the type of "race" that the OP was talking about. If you don't like the terminology of "race" from the lofty position of your "racer" pedestal, then call it whatever you want. Friendly competition, unfriendly competion, it doesn't matter because one thing's for sure: All parties involved are very aware of what's going on. Is it a little childish? Maybe so, but I just call it a way to keep a boring ride interesting, and I know I'm not alone. One of the funniest instances I can think of is this time I passed an old geezer. I'm just cruising along keeping my cadence, when I come upon and pass this old geezer. I'm talking totally gray, white pasty skin like Casper, socks pulled halfway up his calves, but still obviously a cyclist. Of course, at the time I didn't think much of the fact that I was passing, but a little later something catches the corner of my eye, and it's this geezer giving it all he's got, huffing and puffing, trying to overtake me. When he realized he didn't have the gas, he just smiled and said "Oh well, I thought I could take you" and fell back in line. I smiled too, because I understood quite well what was going on.

You don't need rules and regulations for a race to be a race. I don't mind saying even here in this forum that I would never let a recumbent pass me if I can help it. There, I said it. Was that so hard to admit? That's really what this thread was about from the beginning. Recumbent riders are looked at with disdain by us roadies. Admit it. In the mirror thread over in the Road Forum, there's several comments such as "a barcalounger on wheels with a fat old fart riding it". So the OP likes to bait roadies from time to time to engage in these "friendly cometitions" in an effort to restore "honor" to bent riders. So what? He wasn't gloating about it in the Road Forum. Get over it and stick your nose back up in the clouds where it belongs with the rest of your "racer" cadre.

aikigreg

And that, ladies and gentleman, ought to pretty much wrap this thread up, don't you think? That's the intelligent middle voice speaking.

Oh, and Beez - it's not a highracer, but you're welcome to come ride one of my bents and try them out anytime. Since I have two different ones, I wouldn't mind riding with you anytime - upright or 'bent.

plainsdrifter

Peace and be safe out there.

Looking forward to lowracer's next clip with baited breath.