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RANS old tiller versus New Chopper?

Old 02-20-10, 08:44 PM
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RANS old tiller versus New Chopper?

I have an old Rans Stratus I love...except it came with Easy Racer handlebars that are a strain to reach and hit my knees.
I want to replace them either with the old tiller, or the new chopper.
I'd really like some input. I have nowhere to try both, so I'm doing all this online.
I have short arms, so need something that reaches me...and don't want to knock my knees. I've seen several posts from people who prefer the old way.

all feedback really appreciated.

thanks

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Old 02-21-10, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by brad kava View Post
I have an old Rans Stratus I love...except it came with Easy Racer handlebars that are a strain to reach and hit my knees.
I want to replace them either with the old tiller, or the new chopper.
I'd really like some input. I have nowhere to try both, so I'm doing all this online.
I have short arms, so need something that reaches me...and don't want to knock my knees. I've seen several posts from people who prefer the old way.

all feedback really appreciated.
Start with basics. Is the stem pointing forward or toward you? Pointing it toward you should let you raise the angle of the bars, maybe giving you the best chance of clearing your knees with what you've got. I think the toureasy-type handlebars come in different lengths; and the RANS model is adjustable for height, width, and pull-back.
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Old 02-22-10, 12:46 AM
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I have 04 Strat with new riser and b37 handlebar- works great, no tiller.
I tried chopper, I liked it too. Nice adjustability, can't go wrong, good choice.
Old tiller, you'll get used to it, a little twitchy on steep climbs.

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Old 02-23-10, 12:13 AM
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Most Easy Racer bars I've measured are about 15.5" tall. You can gain a few inches by installing EZ-1 HB's at 18" tall. Available in both steel and aluminum:

https://www.gaerlan.com/bikeparts/parts/bar/bar.html
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My wife's Stratus has the chopper bars. They are nice and adjustable but I prefer the T bar on my Tailwind. You get a lot less interference when turning making it easier on sharp turns.
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I believe mine are the B-37 bars. I get a preferred angle with my wrists that I wouldn't get with the chopper bars.
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I have an 08 Stratus with the chopper bars. I really like them. They are extremely adjustable. I have mounted a mountain bike computer on the lowest bar. It doesnt need an extention wire that way. I prefer to keep the bars fairly far forward. I keep the riser tube in line with the headset. That way the bars are away from the knees, and it keeps my arms fairly straight to cut down on wind resistance.
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Originally Posted by brad kava View Post
. . . I have nowhere to try both, so I'm doing all this online.
I have short arms, so need something that reaches me...and don't want to knock my knees. I've seen several posts from people who prefer the old way. . . .
You might want to contact RANS directly and ask what they recommend. I asked them via e-mail about the manufacture date on my Velocity Squared and the guy that responds was very prompt.

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. . . That way the bars are away from the knees, and it keeps my arms fairly straight to cut down on wind resistance.
I too am having problems with cornering/turns on my V2. It has the tiller steering riser/bars. First the thing, since it is a long wheelbase, has a big turning radius (I think our VW bus has a smaller turning radius, I swear) and then when I turn, the handle bars hit my knees and I find I must turn my knees out from the hips to avoid this or turn very, very carefully or very, very wide.

Mebbe I need to try the chopper style bars.
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There are two things for you to consider here. First, changing from what you have to the tiller bar probably will cost quite a bit. I considered changing the other way recently, and it would have been several hundred dollars to go to a chopper-style bar from the tiller bar. Why would I want to do that, when the tiller is a nice bar? Well, here's the reason I considered it:


You'll notice a slight deflection in the tiller--it's from a severe crack that developed after about 11,000 miles. Those were some rough miles, involving commuting to and from work and some lifting of the front tire over a curb. But it was surprising. The crack developed after an "almost spill" where the bike slid out from under me on a wooden walkway, and I tried to keep it upright with the bars. Here's what it looks like close-up:


Here is the crack, which caused me to garage my Stratus for about four months. It's now out of the shop, and I ended up keeping the tiller bar design (I like the clearances too). But I do know that there is a metal fatigue issue, and will be more aware of that now and not try to overstress it by lifting the front end with the tiller bars.

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