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Originally Posted by RChung
(Post 15286155)
You know that the Battle Mountain course isn't flat, it's has a (nearly) constant down slope?
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Lol that first fairing bought "Yellow submarine" by the beatles to mind.
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Originally Posted by RChung
(Post 15289372)
That slope, while small, is what made it possible for me to estimate the CdA of the Varna Diablo.
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Originally Posted by RChung
(Post 15289372)
It took them a long time not because it had a small enough slope (for example, the courses at Moriarty NM and Sattley CA used for USCF TT races are flatter) but because it had the largest possible slope.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Wills
(Post 15290190)
Yes, but it slopes slightly upward through the last 3/4 mile and through the time traps, IIRC. There's a small gully and bridge at this point on the BM course.
Originally Posted by wphamilton
(Post 15290773)
What did you come up with?
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Originally Posted by RChung
(Post 15291361)
That's interesting. I saw a little "blip" in the slope but I couldn't be sure about it. I'm using speed and power data from two of his runs but at that point he was doing ~ 30 m/sec so my resolution on the slope would be no better than that. He covered the 200 m speed trap in about 6 seconds but I don't see a positive slope through that, nor through the preceding km.
Well, I don't know the exact air density at Battle Mountain that hour that day (but I have air density from weather stations in Winnemucca and Elko from earlier in the day and later in the evening) so I had to make a guess about that. But given that guess, I got a CdA just a hair under 0.02 m^2. |
Originally Posted by wphamilton
(Post 15292161)
Holy cow, even with a streamline body that must be a tight fit to get it that small!
The view from inside: |
Originally Posted by Jeff Wills
(Post 15294431)
Sam's not a large person (5-foot-7, IIRC), and he squeezes into the fairing. I think it's 15 inches at the widest. (My shoulders are 21 inches across- I am not small.)
I didn't think I was either until I saw the video... :D |
Originally Posted by Jeff Wills
(Post 15294431)
Sam's not a large person (5-foot-7, IIRC), and he squeezes into the fairing. I think it's 15 inches at the widest. (My shoulders are 21 inches across- I am not small.)
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The main effect of my fairing is to keep the rain off me. I only get wet from my chest up. In crosswinds, it seems to act almost like a wing, and I have to lean into the wind. On downhills, I have hit about 45 mph, which I probably could not hit without the fairing.
John http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76...y/IMG_3975.jpg |
I gather that a tailbox increases speed as much as, maybe more than, a fairing.
But does that only apply to super-duper custom aero fin type tail boxes? I see ready-made luggage-type tail boxes like this: http://www.angletechcycles.com/asset.../aerotrunk.htm Has anyone a sense of whether these also provide the tailbox aero benefit? Thanks! |
Originally Posted by jyl
(Post 15321384)
I gather that a tailbox increases speed as much as, maybe more than, a fairing.
But does that only apply to super-duper custom aero fin type tail boxes? I see ready-made luggage-type tail boxes like this: http://www.angletechcycles.com/asset.../aerotrunk.htm Has anyone a sense of whether these also provide the tailbox aero benefit? Thanks! |
Originally Posted by jyl
(Post 15321384)
I gather that a tailbox increases speed as much as, maybe more than, a fairing.
But does that only apply to super-duper custom aero fin type tail boxes? I see ready-made luggage-type tail boxes like this: http://www.angletechcycles.com/asset.../aerotrunk.htm Has anyone a sense of whether these also provide the tailbox aero benefit? Thanks! |
Ah, interesting. I also hunted around BROL and found a coast down test on a V-Rex.
http://www.bentrideronline.com/messa...own+test+V-Rex The speed at which you have to be going, to get 1 to 3 mph help from these aero aids, seems to be pretty fast. The various coast down tests I'm finding involve 30-40 mph speeds. |
Originally Posted by jyl
(Post 15321856)
Ah, interesting. I also hunted around BROL and found a coast down test on a V-Rex.
http://www.bentrideronline.com/messa...own+test+V-Rex |
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