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somnambulant 05-25-06 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by operator
If you weren't on a fix, i'd tell you that your seat height was too high. But you should check out your cleats first for wear. Even riding more upright or in a different position can cause knee pain.

I read somewhere that if you're having soreness in the front of your knee you should make sure your seat isn't too low, but if it's the back, perhaps your seat is too high (and you're hyper-extending the joint at the bottom of your pedal stroke). I'm considering picking up a different stem since if I made my seat any higher right now my bars would be too low.

I haven't changed anything in my set up recently though, so I think this is likely just something that has built up over time, especially (as TJ mentioned) since I've stepped up my distances lately.

operator 05-25-06 10:34 AM


I read somewhere that if you're having soreness in the front of your knee you should make sure your seat isn't too low,
Yeah I read the same page too, except they forgot to mention that if your saddle is also too aft it'll cause the same problem. So moving seat lower = moving seat forward a teeny bit and problem solvez0red.

See this fit stuff pisses me off.

TRaffic Jammer 05-25-06 10:43 AM

I've done the same thing, move it down a half inch .... move it up a quarter, forward, back , forward again slightly. I've found that as one's riding situation changes, it can necessitate the adjusting of one's position ever so slightly. New longer distances, new route....pumping a higher gear(N/A), cruising vs. pushing. If I crank home HARD it'll hurt the fronts of my knees as I'm really pullin back as I go over on my roatation, if I cruise home reasonably nada.

cavernmech 05-25-06 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by gokiburi
while we're on the topic of shoes.. has anyone had problems with the buckle on sidi dominators? the buckle on my right shoe fell off which i thought wouldn't be a problem since i could just screw it back. i torqued it on pretty tight but now it doesn't move/swing at all. it's also more difficult to thread the strap through and after all that, it still falls off every now and then!... still a great shoe though.

jyossarian, any luck with finding cycle therapy? google maps should give you exact directions from where you're staying.

I also busted one of the releases on my Domi's. Only one of the two release levers broke and I have been able to use em anyway without replacement. I have owned most of the big name shoes over the years and still find the Sidi's to be among the best going. That said they are stupid expensive. Gotta pay for that Italian styling I guess. It nice to have a shoe that doesn't look like Walt Disney threw up all over em. Europe Bound has some nice Diadora Mtn shoes right now for $90 I believe. A messenger buddy of mine just bought his second pair after the first blew up after 2 years. 2 years under a messenger seems pretty durable to me.

cavernmech 05-25-06 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer
Over time I've found velco can full on let go, and after a few years depending on the quality of the velcro can be downright useless. It stretches and I've had velcro downs that weren't velcroed all the way along the strap. I have long, skinny feet and have ended up using less than an inch of closure to hold my shoes on, as I cinch them down tight, usually more than the average normal footed wearer.

That Moots is a sweet lookin' ride.
I do so wish I could get my hands on a year one or two Trimble(sp?) MTB from back in the day.
Carbon frame of the Gods.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3...rossjpg3nh.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8...mblejpg5rj.jpg
Bear in mind this design is almost 20 years old now. Hey I got excited when AlpineStar made E-stays
Check out the crazy hunka-hunka- aluminum stay/dropout...made for a nice opener too. :lol:

good luck finding one of those....most of em are in the Carbon scrap pile now. :p

TRaffic Jammer 05-25-06 11:00 AM

Yea, they broke real fun. A couple messer brethren in MTL were factory riders and they'd jump em off stair cases. I just love the design of the frame, it rode like a tank with a gyroscope in it.

TRaffic Jammer 05-25-06 11:00 AM

Yea, they broke real fun. A couple messer brethren in MTL were factory riders and they'd jump em off stair cases. I just love the design of the frame, it rode like a tank with a gyroscope in it.

operator 05-25-06 11:09 AM


It nice to have a shoe that doesn't look like Walt Disney threw up all over em.
Reminds me of what darkmother said about some charity walk remarking on the donut ride peeps.


Originally Posted by darkmother
It's like... a fashion show!!

Oh yeah, FFL ride on Saturday from Finch station to Aurora, 8:45am 72kms. Be there.

cavit8 05-25-06 11:35 AM

Okay, okay - Firefox kept timing out on me so I had to do the pledge from work.

Why does your building suddenly look like it's made of toothpaste?


Originally Posted by eyefloater
I glanced at your page:

Goal: $2,000
Raised: $920
Sponsors: 12
46% of goal achieved


... which seems to be slightly out of date.

Oh, and yes ... expect gas money from me.


eyefloater 05-25-06 11:47 AM

Oh SNAP! Cam, you rule. Thanks a bunch man.

darkmother 05-25-06 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by cavernmech
I also busted one of the releases on my Domi's. Only one of the two release levers broke and I have been able to use em anyway without replacement. I have owned most of the big name shoes over the years and still find the Sidi's to be among the best going. That said they are stupid expensive. Gotta pay for that Italian styling I guess. It nice to have a shoe that doesn't look like Walt Disney threw up all over em. Europe Bound has some nice Diadora Mtn shoes right now for $90 I believe. A messenger buddy of mine just bought his second pair after the first blew up after 2 years. 2 years under a messenger seems pretty durable to me.

All this shoe talk, just in time. I was planning to pick up a new pair anyway, but now I need to even more-I snapped the sole on my cheap specialized shoes riding trails last night. Anyone have experience with the Sidi bullet 2's? I'm thinking of picking them up, as I have a gift certificate from MEC. They are kind of pricey at 170 bucks-and don't look much better made than the cheap shoes. Still, I am tired of these cheap POS shoes blowing apart after 8 months of use. I'd like to get a couple of seasons at least.

jyossarian 05-25-06 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by somnambulant
Hey, you should come out and ride with us at Critical Mass tomorrow evening! :)

Sorry, already made plans w/ SWMBO, but 2 weeks should give me an oppty to ride somewhere and maybe grab a cuppa coffee. I'll probably be looking for route suggestions since riding to the Beaches and riding the Martin Goodman trail can be fun, but also limiting.

gboy 05-25-06 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by operator
Oh yeah, FFL ride on Saturday from Finch station to Aurora, 8:45am 72kms. Be there.

Where's the halfway point; I think I'll be too tired biking to Finch and then back north to Aurora.

jeremywhitehorn 05-25-06 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by darkmother
All this shoe talk, just in time. I was planning to pick up a new pair anyway, but now I need to even more-I snapped the sole on my cheap specialized shoes riding trails last night. Anyone have experience with the Sidi bullet 2's? I'm thinking of picking them up, as I have a gift certificate from MEC. They are kind of pricey at 170 bucks-and don't look much better made than the cheap shoes. Still, I am tired of these cheap POS shoes blowing apart after 8 months of use. I'd like to get a couple of seasons at least.

they may look the same but you'll most likely find sidis are much more durable and well designed. if you don't get multiple seasons out of them i'd be suprised.

somnambulant 05-25-06 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by gboy
Where's the halfway point; I think I'll be too tired biking to Finch and then back north to Aurora.

route map: http://www.bikerally.org/trainingmap...inchAurora.pdf

somnambulant 05-25-06 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by jyossarian
Sorry, already made plans w/ SWMBO, but 2 weeks should give me an oppty to ride somewhere and maybe grab a cuppa coffee. I'll probably be looking for route suggestions since riding to the Beaches and riding the Martin Goodman trail can be fun, but also limiting.

SWMBO?

somnambulant 05-25-06 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by darkmother
Still, I am tired of these cheap POS shoes blowing apart after 8 months of use. I'd like to get a couple of seasons at least.

Jeebus. I've had my shimano shoes since about 1994 and they went through a few years of regular abuse with at least one long group ride per week and a bunch of races every year, plus all of the regular riding since then. I'm not using them daily now, but I still rock them on longer rides. The tread is pretty chewed up, but all the seams are holding and the velcro still works perfectly (knock on wood). I guess they don't make 'em like they used to! :)

somnambulant 05-25-06 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by cavit8
Okay, okay - Firefox kept timing out on me so I had to do the pledge from work.

Why does your building suddenly look like it's made of toothpaste?

dude you rock. If you're coming out tomorrow night you get beer on me.

edit: ie. free beer. no belly shooters.. ;)

operator 05-25-06 01:08 PM

SWMB0 !

Edit: Why the **** is the server un-all caps'ing my post. WTF.

somnambulant 05-25-06 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by somnambulant
SWMBO?

Nevermind. Google got it. Never heard that one before. :)

TRaffic Jammer 05-25-06 02:09 PM

somebody say beers?

operator 05-25-06 02:22 PM

Yo Shiznaz, teh kaiser on Stg 11 Giro, 51kph ITT : http://www.demonoid.com/files/download/HTTP/349488/ Get it while the seeds are h0tz0r.

darkmother 05-25-06 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by somnambulant
I guess they don't make 'em like they used to! :)

I think that's exactly what it is. I had some old answer MTB shoes from the 90's that were awesome-(and ugly as sin-bright blue with orange). They were made in italy, and lasted for years. Now all of the shoes seem to be so cheap-cleats ripping out, heels come unglued etc-and the fit is terrible.

darkmother 05-25-06 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by somnambulant
I guess they don't make 'em like they used to! :)

I think that's exactly what it is. I had some old answer MTB shoes from the 90's that were awesome-(and ugly as sin-bright blue with orange). They were made in italy, and lasted for years. Now all of the shoes seem to be so cheap-cleats ripping out, heels come unglued etc-and the fit is terrible.

darkmother 05-25-06 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by jeremywhitehorn
they may look the same but you'll most likely find sidis are much more durable and well designed. if you don't get multiple seasons out of them i'd be suprised.

Ok, I'll pull the trigger on them then. Thanks for the input.


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