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Old 10-08-08, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by somnambulant
You can't get them with S&S Couplers straight from Kogswell, but since they're steel you can always get someone to retrofit them.

I talked with them today.. $470 shipped for a 59cm 650B frame + fork + headset + seatpost + seatclamp + fenders (with the accidentally heavier TT/DT). It's in the blog.

Still looking at some other options too. The Gary Fisher Simplecity would suit my needs AND be cheaper, but it's aluminum and I'm not sure how I feel about that. I could definitely get it for cheaper than building a Kogswell frameset up though, despite the good Kogswell deal.
Ah sorry, for the folding and availability, I was referring to the tires. But yea, the kogswell is quite tempting. I don't think I'll fit that 59cm frame though. boo.
probably the regular price of $600 for me. + I wish they still had the custard color.

I'm currently deciding between the kogswell, surly LHT or cross check.
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Originally Posted by sr20det
Ah sorry, for the folding and availability, I was referring to the tires. But yea, the kogswell is quite tempting. I don't think I'll fit that 59cm frame though. boo.
probably the regular price of $600 for me. + I wish they still had the custard color.

I'm currently deciding between the kogswell, surly LHT or cross check.
Ah.. duh! Gotcha. Then yes, there's definitely folding 650B tires. eg. https://www.velo-orange.com/grboc65x32ti.html

I'm looking for something to use as a porteur/city bike, not as a tourer (although the versatility is nice), so my needs are a little different. I'm not sure that I'd want a 650B bike to take someplace remote because of the parts availability issue.
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Yea, mainly looking for a city / porteur bike... but since I have summers free touring may be an option.
I'm wondering if I could satisfy my urge by just getting a cetma rack and throwing it onto the track bike. Mildly worried about how the bike will handle under load.
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My a$s is very pleased with me for buying brooks saddles. Makes the 34km ride each day alittle more enjoyable. And anyone who knows Glen Scarlett Rd. knows what I'm talking about. I actually puked up some of my miniwheats the otherday.
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The Kogswell looks like a wicked bike go for it!

On the other hand I don't really get the 650B hype (my opinion has little value: I can barely feel a difference between a 26" and 700c wheel), and I'd be nervous in having a super nice city/utility bike locked around... My solution was to take an old MTB, fix it and fit a huge basket and moustache bars. It serves the purpose quite well. Or simply get a nicer portuer rack on a cheaper bike...
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Does anyone have any leads on a reasonably priced rigid SS MTB? The kicker is that it has to be pretty small, 14" max, probably better if it's even little-er. I'm looking to build up a winter commuter.
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Originally Posted by sr20det
Yea, mainly looking for a city / porteur bike... but since I have summers free touring may be an option.
I'm wondering if I could satisfy my urge by just getting a cetma rack and throwing it onto the track bike. Mildly worried about how the bike will handle under load.
I tried a Wald delivery basket on my Urbanite and it felt super sketchy. Wheel just wanted to flop over constantly (ie. turn to one side or the other). You're welcome to borrow my Wald to see how it feels, if you're in the t-dizzle with your track bike anytime.
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Originally Posted by 32flavours
Does anyone have any leads on a reasonably priced rigid SS MTB? The kicker is that it has to be pretty small, 14" max, probably better if it's even little-er. I'm looking to build up a winter commuter/Don Valley assault vehicle.
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Originally Posted by Flimflam
Lacing a 36H hub to a 32H rim is not a big deal, no? I've been told today that it is... big balance problems apparently.
It's a real pain in the ass to get the last 4 spokes in.
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Originally Posted by 32flavours
Does anyone have any leads on a reasonably priced rigid SS MTB? The kicker is that it has to be pretty small, 14" max, probably better if it's even little-er. I'm looking to build up a winter commuter.
I have no idea if the sale is still on, but Fetish Cycles has on their website small obsession frames for $99.

Sale price is listed on the home page.
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Old 10-08-08, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by I_bRAD
It's a real pain in the ass to get the last 4 spokes in.
Heh, yeah indeed

Just spotted a post of 32h IRO brand formula hubs on CL, anyone here? I'm velly velly interested in a rear.
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OT request now that my rim/hub idiocy is over.

I'm heading up to Montreal in the next couple of days with my parents who've come to visit - anyone have any recommendations of stuff to see/do, I've never been and have no idea what to look for.

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Originally Posted by somnambulant
fixed.
Fair nuff

Thanks for the link, Chris. Any ideas on a complete?
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Old 10-08-08, 08:54 PM
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So i'm thinking of getting a road bike since the only bike i have at the moment is a fixed gear, and i'd like to change it a up a little. My question is can you recommend a road bike that is SS/FG style? Clean, little or no decals and all that? I sometimes go through the road bike forum picture thread and most of what's on there is disgusting.
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Take off the stickers? Or find a bike that you like and paint or powdercoat it?

Urbanite bikes are decal-less, many of the Surly bikes are tastefully done. But yeah, if you are buying a new bike, decals are pretty much guaranteed to be obnoxious nowadays.
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Originally Posted by somnambulant
I tried a Wald delivery basket on my Urbanite and it felt super sketchy. Wheel just wanted to flop over constantly (ie. turn to one side or the other). You're welcome to borrow my Wald to see how it feels, if you're in the t-dizzle with your track bike anytime.
thanks! That the thing I'm afraid of awful handling / bike wanting to fall over.
I should be back the next 2 weekends for thanksgiving and the bike show. hoorah! Looking forward to scoring some rollers.
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Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
Take off the stickers? Or find a bike that you like and paint or powdercoat it?

Urbanite bikes are decal-less, many of the Surly bikes are tastefully done. But yeah, if you are buying a new bike, decals are pretty much guaranteed to be obnoxious nowadays.
I second that! I ride a decal-less surly pacer. Took it off with a putty knife + hairdryer + goo gone.
this is the build that inspired mine.

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Originally Posted by somnambulant
You can't get them with S&S Couplers straight from Kogswell, but since they're steel you can always get someone to retrofit them.

I talked with them today.. $470 shipped for a 59cm 650B frame + fork + headset + seatpost + seatclamp + fenders (with the accidentally heavier TT/DT). It's in the blog.

Still looking at some other options too. The Gary Fisher Simplecity would suit my needs AND be cheaper, but it's aluminum and I'm not sure how I feel about that. I could definitely get it for cheaper than building a Kogswell frameset up though, despite the good Kogswell deal.
the nice thing about the kogswell is that the geometry is made for city riding and it has three different fork options with various amounts of rake depending on its intended use...
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is it too early to start taking about the fall bike show? i'm waiting out the days...
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Old 10-09-08, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by somnambulant
Still looking at some other options too. The Gary Fisher Simplecity would suit my needs AND be cheaper, but it's aluminum and I'm not sure how I feel about that. I could definitely get it for cheaper than building a Kogswell frameset up though, despite the good Kogswell deal.
It's not as good of a deal as the Kogswell, but Rawland makes a couple of models of steel 650B bicycles that have lots of potential for a versatile "rough stuff" bike. Think an updated version of the B-Stone X0-1. Framesets are $650. The Olaf is the ss/fixed version and the Sogn is the geared version available with either disc or canti brake mounts. Rawland is also carrying the Pacenti Neo Moto tires for offroad fun. https://www.rawlandcycles.com/ I have serious bike lust for the fork crown!

I'm not sure how the Rawland frames would like front loads. If you want to carry lots of stuff on the front, then the Kogswell frame set up for that would be the best bet.
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Anyone have any experience with a singleator or any kind of singlespeed tensioner? Yesterday made me realized I need to get a serious move on putting together my winter bike/bad weather bike. Fenders are becomming more of a priority these days
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Originally Posted by 2wheelsgood
is it too early to start taking about the fall bike show? i'm waiting out the days...
nah... mind you i start thinking about next year as soon as i leave the show...

i have my list, and i'm checking it twice!
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hmmm with the folks....

Old Montreal if they're up to walking. Great restaurants abound down there, and old architecture. A horse drawn carriage ride through there is great to hear about the whole place as well. St Helen's island is nice in the fall, but you can't miss out going to the top of the mountain and having a look see. The east side road down offers a pull over look out spot as well. *clicky* On the east side Swartz's Deli https://www.schwartzsdeli.com/ is a piece of Canadiana and a Montreal gotta-go place, and not just a few minutes walk from the base of the mountain, hmm lunch? Be prepared to wait outside if you go during actual lunch or dinner hours. Totally worth the wait as you wil have the best smoked meat sandwich in existence. Moses is rumored to have eaten there.

Go in to the cathedrals for a peek. Hey check out the biodrome, formerly one of the best indoor Velodromes ever to have existed and cry silent fixed gear tears. Then head downtown and get lost in the underground city.. (several malls connected by tunnels, you can get from almost one side of downtown to the other and never go outside.

Lafleurs or the Montreal Pool Room (St Laurent below St CAtherine.) for steamed hotdogs and the mm the Lafleurs fries. Have a real poutine for a change with some of the best. freshest curd cheese you will ever eat. Drive north into the Laurentians for a beautiful view Mountain day trip. No turning right at the lights and watch out for them drivers there. REMEMBER Jaywalking is a sport there, as well, service will improve if you at least attempt to speak French. Have a great time!!!
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zippered, what's on your list?
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oh man. schwartz is redic. the amount of meat given compared to the slices of bread does not many ANY sense. mustard is a must.

oh, and thanks for the suggestion to rawlands, the fork is dreamy
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