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Old 04-10-15, 09:02 AM
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May as well just use your helmet strap. Perhaps also shift both the front and rear (without pedaling) and undo your skewers.
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Just carry your front wheel with you. Use a small cable or chain to secure it to a post if you want to delay someone who wants to toss it in the back of a truck by a few extra seconds.
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Intermediate choice.. it does fit in a jersey pocket and probably too difficult to cut with scissors.
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Just received a ABUS 90 lock. Very light and good enough to stop someone from just walking away with the bike. But don't expect it to stop someone determined to take it.

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Someone could easily cut through my cable with a pair of decent cutters, but I don't perceive that as a great risk in the places I usually travel. The cable is more to prevent a crime of opportunity.
Hemingway had a good line in Old Man and the Sea where the fisherman locked his boat not to keep it from being stolen but to help honest people stay honest.

My kids have super light weight locks for school (hotbeds of joyrides) where I just got a length of cable cut at a hardware store cuffed into loops at both ends (~$3) and essentially disposable but programmable combo locks ~$5 for 2)
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Abus Granit Mini Futura is pretty light for a u-lock. It probably fits in a jersey and it's more secure than a tiny wire; here's a review.


I wouldn't lock a bike outside, even for "just a meal" without at least a u-lock.
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Originally Posted by DunderXIII
Abus Granit Mini Futura is pretty light for a u-lock. It probably fits in a jersey and it's more secure than a tiny wire; here's a review.


I wouldn't lock a bike outside, even for "just a meal" without at least a u-lock.
U locks are not any safer.

While the lock i got will not stop a determined thief, it is better than nothing.
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Xena disc alarm lock for a motorcycle. Gives off an ear piercing scream and the thief would have to carry the bike away, they can't ride off with it. A very nice deterrent, they do fit in a jersey pocket.

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Originally Posted by Lazyass
Xena disc alarm lock for a motorcycle. Gives off an ear piercing scream and the thief would have to carry the bike away, they can't ride off with it. A very nice deterrent, they do fit in a jersey pocket.
Cool... but I rather have it attached to a tree or pole.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
U locks are not any safer.
No offense intended oldnslow2, but posting a nearly six year old video showing a ten year old vulnerability affecting a crappy lock brand is misleading. Yes that was a big deal ten+ years ago, and u-lock buyers today need to not buy *****ty locks with the same vulnerability (do any exist?), but the way you posted is incorrectly implying the problem affects all u-locks. I know Kryptonite changed designs in 2005 and exchanged anyone's old design who wanted to and would expect any other decent manufacturer to have done the same.

EDIT: According to the notes on Youtube it looks like Masterlock's customer service reps were clueless.
UPDATE NOTE: After posting this video, Masterlock contacted me and replaced my lock for free. They said the two customer service reps I spoke to should have replaced my lock and they apologized.

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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
Cool... but I rather have it attached to a tree or pole.
Well, 120db is no joke. More than loud enough to hear it from the inside of a Starbucks. Heck, it would echo inside the building. I suspect the average thief would pee their pants then drop the bike and sprint away the instant they heard it haha. The little cables I've seen posted in this thread could be cut in about 5 seconds by a tool you can fit inside a pocket.
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Originally Posted by gpburdell
No offense intended oldnslow2, but posting a nearly six year old video showing a ten year old vulnerability affecting a crappy lock brand is misleading. Yes that was a big deal ten years ago, and u-lock buyers today need to not buy *****ty locks with the same vulnerability (do any exist?), but the way you posted is incorrectly implying the problem affects all u-locks. I know Kryptonite changed designs in 2005 and exchanged anyone's old design who wanted to and would expect any other decent manufacturer to have done the same.
I implied nothing... i just googled "break u lock": and it showed up.

Again, a determined thief will get your bike. All i want to do is keep honest people honest.

Up to now, i would try to leave the bike in view when i went inside to grab something.

This will cut though anything in seconds.

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Originally Posted by Lazyass
Well, 120db is no joke. More than loud enough to hear it from the inside of a Starbucks. Heck, it would echo inside the building. I suspect the average thief would pee their pants then drop the bike and sprint away the instant they heard it haha. The little cables I've seen posted in this thread could be cut in about 5 seconds by a tool you can fit inside a pocket.
Easy enough grab it, toss it in the back of a pickup truck, cut the spoke and toss it out the back of the truck.

All you can do is slow someone down.

I never said my way is the best/only way.

Whatever works for you
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
Easy enough grab it, toss it in the back of a pickup truck, cut the spoke and toss it out the back of the truck.
That's why you stay within earshot. When the lock moves a millimeter it goes off. If my bike is being stolen I want an alarm going off. I want the dead to be awakened. Never in my life would I trust any kind of chain or cable. I had a sportbike chained up to a pole with a Kryptonite chain and two thieves in a truck got it in about 20 seconds.
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OK... then the answer is to use both.
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The answer is to have an alarm on it so you and everyone around knows your bike is being stolen and stay within earshot so you can deal with the thief before he leaves.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
I implied nothing... [...] Again, a determined thief will get your bike. All i want to do is keep honest people honest.
I'm just stating how it appeared when you posted "U locks are not any safer" (with that video) in a reply to DunderXIII's post about using a u-lock because it's more secure than a tiny wire. It conveyed the impression that you thought all u-locks were subject to that failure mode and easily defeated by an opportunitic thief with a cheap plastic pen.


I'm glad to see that this wasn't in fact your intention.


Sure, any lock can be defeated. There's also a heck of a difference between a lock defeatible with a pen or small hand tool vs. a lock requiring three-foot-long bolt cutters or an battery powered angle grinder. In context of the thread you're guarding against an opportunistic thief not a well equipped pro.

Also let's remember there's also a difference between "in seconds" and needing a minute or two. No effective difference if you're out of sight for hours, but a substantial difference in context of "running into the deli" for a minute.
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I wouldn't keep any bike left outside for any period of time.

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Since you live in New York, that is Understandable.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
U locks are not any safer.

While the lock i got will not stop a determined thief, it is better than nothing.
Off topic; you're not comparing the same thing at all.

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Originally Posted by gpburdell
I'm just stating how it appeared when you posted "U locks are not any safer" (with that video) in a reply to DunderXIII's post about using a u-lock because it's more secure than a tiny wire. It conveyed the impression that you thought all u-locks were subject to that failure mode and easily defeated by an opportunitic thief with a cheap plastic pen.


I'm glad to see that this wasn't in fact your intention.


Sure, any lock can be defeated. There's also a heck of a difference between a lock defeatible with a pen or small hand tool vs. a lock requiring three-foot-long bolt cutters or an battery powered angle grinder. In context of the thread you're guarding against an opportunistic thief not a well equipped pro.

Also let's remember there's also a difference between "in seconds" and needing a minute or two. No effective difference if you're out of sight for hours, but a substantial difference in context of "running into the deli" for a minute.
Exactly the point �� anyway, I held the lock in a LBS and its indeed pretty light so maybe its an option for the OP.
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Originally Posted by DunderXIII
Exactly the point �� anyway, I held the lock in a LBS and its indeed pretty light so maybe its an option for the OP.
I am the OP.
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Originally Posted by oldnslow2
I am the OP.
oops! Sorry anyway, for quick entry/exit you have more chance to keep your bike with a u-lock because you leave opportunistic thiefs out of the equation. And you have more time to react, in minutes instead of under a second.
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Honestly... the bike is not out of sight for more than a few seconds.

I've ridden for 3 years and never had a problem with my previous bike and no lock. I just wanted something to slow down the opportunistic thief from walking away with my new bike.

The lock i got will accomplish that.
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