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Where's the SRAM

Old 04-13-15, 02:56 PM
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Where's the SRAM

Since joining I've spent a a fair amount of time here and the only place that I've seen any SRAM discussions are in the Race Forum. I'm far from a racer so I keep my keyboard quiet there.

With that said, why does it appear to be a lot less SRAM discussions here?

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Old 04-13-15, 02:58 PM
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Not much to discuss, really. Aside from a rather evolutionary development (exoglide?) to get front shifting up to nearly shimano standards, they haven't done much for road bikes aside from a glitchy hydraulic disk brake.

Don't get me wrong, I like mine but there's just not a lot of new material to feed discussions.
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Go to local LBS and see what the brake down is between Shimano/SRAM bikes
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
Go to local LBS and see what the brake down is between Shimano/SRAM bikes
Shimano has been pushing SRAM out of bike stores with incredibly aggressive OEM pricing. Shrug.

SRAM's also disappeared from the pro peleton, for a combination of reasons it seems.
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When their wireless electronic shifting is introduced soon(?), there will be plenty to talk about.
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Old 04-13-15, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
When their wireless electronic shifting is introduced soon(?), there will be plenty to talk about.
Yup. Either sudden revival or nail in the coffin.
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
Go to local LBS and see what the brake down is between Shimano/SRAM bikes
I have SRAM Red on my Fuji....I'm very happy with it.

Originally Posted by tekhna View Post
Shimano has been pushing SRAM out of bike stores with incredibly aggressive OEM pricing. Shrug.

SRAM's also disappeared from the pro peleton, for a combination of reasons it seems.
Both points make sense.
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Old 04-13-15, 03:49 PM
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I had to special order my Emonda to get Sram Red.... it was worth the wait.
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
Go to local LBS and see what the brake down is between Shimano/SRAM bikes
If that was a clever pun, well done.
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Originally Posted by Loveless4577 View Post
I have SRAM Red on my Fuji....I'm very happy with it.
I'm sure you are. My only point is there are less and less bikes being offered from manufacturers with SRAM. And as Tekhna mentioned, less pro teams with SRAM. The combination means less casual roadies buying bikes with SRAM because as oldnslow mentioned you may have to special order one even if your shop carries a manufacturer that does offer SRAM bikes. But those reasons are part of the reason why there is not much SRAM discussion on this forum
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
When their wireless electronic shifting is introduced soon(?), there will be plenty to talk about.
ghost-shifts?
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Old 04-13-15, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rms13 View Post
I'm sure you are. My only point is there are less and less bikes being offered from manufacturers with SRAM. And as Tekhna mentioned, less pro teams with SRAM. The combination means less casual roadies buying bikes with SRAM because as oldnslow mentioned you may have to special order one even if your shop carries a manufacturer that does offer SRAM bikes. But those reasons are part of the reason why there is not much SRAM discussion on this forum
Lack of availability is understandable, thanks. I ordered my group when I wanted to upgrade.
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There are quite a few women's pro teams that use SRAM (I think they might be the most used groupset on the women's side).
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We go my daughter a new Giant last fall. It came with SRAM Force and she loves it.
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Go to the MTB forum - you will see SRAM is far, far from dead on that side of the bike business.
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Go to the MTB forum - you will see SRAM is far, far from dead on that side of the bike business.
Nobody is questioning SRAM's position in the MTB world. That's not what this thread is about
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My assessment is marketing, like many other things in the bike world (or the consumer world in general). Shimano has a longer history of great products, and thus popularity. Probably takes a very strong effort to unseat.

I say that as I have just upgraded to Force 22. Aside from being different in the aspects of shifting and the more positive shift feedback, I can say that I am less impressed than I thought I would be. Upgraded from Shimano 105 5600 circa 2009. Not the vast difference in either faster or smoother shifting - likely due to my own experience with groupsets. My inner weight weenie enjoyed the weight savings, but barring that it is only ok. I only test rode 6800 once for just a few minutes and found myself at the same point of impression. I have not ridden Di2.

Are we at the point of diminishing returns on mechanical groupset engnineering?
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Originally Posted by kookie View Post
There are quite a few women's pro teams that use SRAM (I think they might be the most used groupset on the women's side).
I wonder if that is due to the easily adjustable lever reach. Small handed women could care about that.
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I say that as I have just upgraded to Force 22. Aside from being different in the aspects of shifting and the more positive shift feedback, I can say that I am less impressed than I thought I would be. Upgraded from Shimano 105 5600 circa 2009. I only test rode 6800 once for just a few minutes and found myself at the same point of impression. I have not ridden Di2.

Are we at the point of diminishing returns on mechanical groupset engnineering?
Probably. I have 5600 on one of my bikes and plan to ride it until it breaks down and needs to be replaced. I do have Red on my "A" bike partly because I bought it already built up that way second hand and partly because I like the weight weenie aspect of having Red.

It's wires and springs pulling and pushing things, so at this point it does seem mechanical derailleur shifting systems are fairly refined. The SRAM yaw FD is pretty cool, and the longer arm for more leverage on the Shimano FD is too.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker View Post
I wonder if that is due to the easily adjustable lever reach. Small handed women could care about that.
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i have 2 road bikes one with shimano and the other with sram force. I find the sram is a little more problamatic and harder to maintain with the shifting. the shimano never an issue. once i buy another road bike towill go back to both bikes with shimano
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i have 2 road bikes one with shimano and the other with sram force. I find the sram is a little more problamatic and harder to maintain with the shifting. the shimano never an issue. once i buy another road bike towill go back to both bikes with shimano
Same for me.
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SRAM is supposed to be working on wireless electronic shifting. Perhaps it will hit with a bang... hopefully not a bang and a fizzle.

I don't believe that SRAM or Campy is going away in the near future, and it would be a mistake to completely drop the Road groups. They need to keep their name out as wide as possible.

Not really top "road" groups, but I very much dislike Shimano's cage design of front triples, so SRAM it is, or anything but Shimano.

I would like more emphasis on making everything cross compatible. It is ok for Campy to sell their own cassettes, but it would make it much better if they had the same spacing as Shimano. SRAM is more compatible, but apparently has both Shimano compatible and non-compatible parts.

Microshift is a bit slow with their 11s release, but better late than never. I do like my Microshift 9s shifters.
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It's a bit disappointing to see less SRAM offerings which for me will mean next bike if not equipped with SRAM I'll just get the frame and assemble it on my own. Shimano shifting is fine but I can't stand their shifting lever.
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