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What are the top of the line pedal, that also comes in a non-top of the line material

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Old 04-18-05, 09:41 AM
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What are the top of the line pedal, that also comes in a non-top of the line material

like the ltw model is Ti and the base model is Stainless steel...that way you get the functionality of top of the line with the lower price and a slight weight penalty....i could then buy a mid model

what are the advantages of one pedal vs another....

one other thing, i saw a guy at this weekends MS150, he took out a rubber cover for the cleats...so some pedals have this and others dont...or does one company make the covers for a bunch of different cleats?

Sorry for all the newbie questions...but im hookd...i just need to upgrade from my 17 year old 25pound steel Schwinn, and my ONZA pedals and MTB shoes...
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Speedplay X's, covers avail.
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Shimano SPD-SL go for the Ultegra level over the DA and save money. PD-6600 is the current model PD-R600 is the 04 model which I have and are very nice. If I was buying new today I may go with the New Time RXS model though. They are priced well and come in the Base RXS and then they add carbon and Ti to make them lighter (and more expensive). They also have an RXE (cheaper) model but you loose some functionality.

Here is a good (great?) deal for you and some great shoes and the Time RXS pedals. https://www.pricepoint.com/detail/139...RXS-Pedals.htm
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Look Keo cro-mo. Same pedal as the Ti model with the cheaper axle. A little pricey though... even though I'm a Keo owner I'd say the Ultegra pedal mentioned above is a better choice.
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I've ridden "top of the line" models from Speedplay and Shimano. I've also ridden their slightly heavier, less expensive siblings. As you mentioned, the main difference is cost, weight and the materials that affect that.

I consider myself a fairly serious cyclist but I'm not a racer by any means. Unless you have a lot of disposable income, go for the mid level ones. I couldn't REALLY tell the difference and I'd bet most normal people couldn't either.

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I have a set of speedplay stainless and a set of the Ti ones on another bike. besides my wallet being lighter I cant tell the difference in ride feel.... the wt. of the ti ones is less however.
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Originally Posted by 55/Rad
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I consider myself a fairly serious cyclist but I'm not a racer by any means. Unless you have a lot of disposable income, go for the mid level ones. I couldn't REALLY tell the difference and I'd bet most normal people couldn't either.

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You couldn't tell the difference in the 48 grams between X1 and X2 pedals?
Shocked, I'm shocked I tell you

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Nearly every pedal out there seems to be highly regarded by the people who own them, so I think they've basically all figured out how to do it, and well - the main considerations seem to be cost and cosmetics, really. That said, I love Time pedals, and they're really all I've ever had on a road bike. I recently got the RXS Tis to upgrade my old Equipe Pros and have been very happy - and there's no way I would ever be able to tell a difference between the cro-mo or Ti spindle, so I'm sure all the pedals in their current line-up would be equally nice. I just went Ti because I'm admittedly foolish that way
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except for small specialized pedal makers like coombe and bebop, pretty much every major manufacturer has top of the line ti/carbon/moondust flecked pedals, mid-priced, and budget pedals.

I just got Time RXS's, which is the third down out of four levels of the newest generation times. I've taken it for a 10 mile testing spin after work on friday as soon as I got the package in my greedy little hands, and a longer 50 mile ride over the weekend. Terrific pedals so far. Very light, easy clip in and out, yet very secure hold, nice float, and with the narrow q setting, about as narrow as you can get before your feet start brushing the crank. Not a hint of hot foot, which is the main reason I switched from my old spd m520's.

I also really like the little raised legs on the cleats, so you don't have to mess with cleat covers and still can sort of walk normally.

If you shop around, you can find the RXE's for around $70, the RXS's for $100-130. As far as I can tell from searching around, the main difference between the two, other than around 5 grams a pair (!) is that the RXE doesn't have the higher ends' float resistance adjustment. I liked it with the freest float on the RXS as delivered, dunno how that compares with the RXE, but if the RXE comes with the equivalent to the freest float on the RXS, it'd be a hell of a bargain.
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wow the coombe are very nice...





i was thinking of getting the speedplay X\2 (over the X\5 b\c of the bearing differences)....but these coombe are nice
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Do those coombe's offer any float? Interesting design.
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Originally Posted by sunninho
Do those coombe's offer any float? Interesting design.
yes
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Not sure but the Coombe were at one point very
expensive.
I have speedplay X2s absolutely love em.

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Originally Posted by lotek
Not sure but the Coombe were at one point very
expensive.
I have speedplay X2s absolutely love em.

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I think that on pedals, and most other bike components, when you move from bottom end up to the middle, you gain quality and functionality. When you go from middle to the top end, they often perform exactly the same. They are just lighter, and way more expensive. also full out racing parts often do not last as long and have weight limits. Most Ti pedals have weight limits.

The Coombe pedal looks a lot like a speedplay to me. Take the circle from a Speedplay and cut four wedges out. That would be about what you would have left.
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Originally Posted by F1_Fan
Look Keo cro-mo. Same pedal as the Ti model with the cheaper axle. A little pricey though... even though I'm a Keo owner I'd say the Ultegra pedal mentioned above is a better choice.
Agreed. I have the Keo's as well, which I love, but they were not my first pedal. I bought the Look PP206 pedal as an entry level and it served me well for a couple of years before I started upgrading.
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What is the difference between the Speedplay Zero series and the X series? Is one more reliable? More float?
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I have no complaints about my Speedplays. I like that they are serviceable, but I'd highly advise using the covers when walking around.
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What is the difference between the Speedplay Zero series and the X series? Is one more reliable? More float?
The Speedplay Zeros have adjustable float. With the Zeros, you can independently adjust inboard and outboard float limits. Additionally, the Zero cleats are much better in design than the X cleats in that they are less prone to clogging and more resistant to jamming. They use a flat C-clip style spring as opposed to a coathanger spring.
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The only different I ever felt by moving up to a titanium equipped pedal over a stock pedal was with my Time ATACs on my MTB. I switched over to a set of titanium springs (the kit also came with ti spindles) not to reduce weight but to make the action smoother. The feel of the ti spring clips are less "harsh" than the steel ones. The snap from the steel springs would literally kick my feet away. Also they were a little stiffer to engage than with ti springs. It was recommended by a few riders to switch to them if you're a smaller/lighter rider.
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Originally Posted by lotek
Not sure but the Coombe were at one point very expensive.
Almost bought them (actually 4 of them). We waited 3 months. Coombe was completely unresponsive. Charged us (actually, my card) even though the product didn't ship as promised. We eventually received them but were so pissed off by then, we shipped them back and had them refund the money. We're all on Speedplay (Xs and Zeroes) and are quite happy.

Coombe is the worst company I've ever dealt with. I don't care how good their product is, their customer service stinks and I'd never buy anything they make.
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I believe that with the Coombe pedals, the entry method is the exact reverse operation of the exit method. In other words, you have to enter by sliding your feet onto the pedal and then twisting your heels outwards as if to disengage (even though you aren't yet engaged). This will line up the pedal protrusions with the cleat slot and your foot will drop slightly as the pedal inserts itself into the recess. Then you twist your heels inwards to actually engage. This is in contrast to say Speedplay Zero and X pedals which allow you to just stomp and go. The Coombe action is more like a stomp, grind and go.
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