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rpenmanparker 04-22-15 02:05 PM

Has a professional fitter ever told you to tilt your saddle?
 
And if you thought your saddle should be tilted (either way), and the pro fitter said no, make it level, were you uncomfortable after the comprehensive fitting?

Please discuss.

redfooj 04-22-15 02:23 PM

if my taint hurts i tilt it down

if i slip forward off the saddle i tilt it back

Lazyass 04-22-15 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by redfooj (Post 17741966)
if my taint hurts i tilt it down

if i slip forward off the saddle i tilt it back

And a fitter can't determine that with a tape measure.

Gehena 04-22-15 02:40 PM

I have the saddle on my 29er slightly tilted down because it makes it a bit more comfortable. Due to lack of metric allen keys, i haven't done it on my road bike but...soon...

rpenmanparker 04-22-15 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Lazyass (Post 17741981)
And a fitter can't determine that with a tape measure.

But is it so fundamentally wrong to tilt it, that the fitter doesn't need a measurement to know that? Rhetorical question, not seeking an answer.

rpenmanparker 04-22-15 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Gehena (Post 17742014)
I have the saddle on my 29er slightly tilted down because it makes it a bit more comfortable. Due to lack of metric allen keys, i haven't done it on my road bike but...soon...

Could a pro make it that comfortable without the tilt? That is what we are discussing here.

Lazyass 04-22-15 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 17742015)
But is it so fundamentally wrong to tilt it, that the fitter doesn't need a measurement to know that? Rhetorical question, not seeking an answer.

Saddle tilt isn't rocket science. If your privates hurt tilt it down slightly. If you're sliding forward tilt it up. When both issues are eliminated you're good. If not, look for a saddle with a different shape and/or width that fits you. There's no need to overthink it.

Gehena 04-22-15 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 17742017)
Could a pro make it that comfortable without the tilt? That is what we are discussing here.

I think that would entirely depend on the saddle itself if the measurements, bar tilt, are the same. I've never gotten a fitting so i'm probably wrong but it seems like if you take tilt into consideration as a positive, then you would have to configure the whole fitting system in order to compensate for a new geometric to work with. Personally, i think you should just tilt it as much as makes you comfortable.

Edit- Totally read your reply wrong. I think it's possible, but weather it's more or less comfortable would depend on the person i think.

rpenmanparker 04-22-15 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Lazyass (Post 17742032)
Saddle tilt isn't rocket science. If your privates hurt tilt it down slightly. If you're sliding forward tilt it up. When both issues are eliminated you're good. If not, look for a saddle with a different shape and/or width that fits you. There's no need to overthink it.

No, saddle tilt isn't rocket science, but suppose avoiding it is. You're not allowing for the possibility of relieving the pain by the proper position of the saddle and bars without tilt. That would allow a comfortable ride without the forward sliding issue.

bt 04-22-15 03:39 PM

If my professional fitter ever suggested I tilt my saddle even a hair, he would no longer be my professional fitter!

RR3 04-22-15 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Lazyass (Post 17742032)
Saddle tilt isn't rocket science. If your privates hurt tilt it down slightly. If you're sliding forward tilt it up. When both issues are eliminated you're good. If not, look for a saddle with a different shape and/or width that fits you. There's no need to overthink it.

What about the saddle tension screw....you know like on a real saddle. Sometimes loosen it will keep the "Boys" happy and keep you from sliding forward.

dtrain 04-22-15 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 17742015)
Rhetorical question, not seeking an answer.

The entire thread is rhetorical, yeah?

D1andonlyDman 04-22-15 03:51 PM

The only rationale for tilting the saddle would be to compensate for a frame/stem/seatpost combo that otherwise is the wrong size for the rider.

Wanderer 04-22-15 03:52 PM

I, actually, level my saddles with a level, and it's always perfect.

bt 04-22-15 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Wanderer (Post 17742215)
I, actually, level my saddles with a level, and it's always perfect.

what else would you use?

dtrain 04-22-15 04:01 PM

Levels are expensive. I get by with a book and a glass of water. ;)

RoderWrench 04-22-15 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by Wanderer (Post 17742215)
I, actually, level my saddles with a level, and it's always perfect.

I hope you check that the floor is level first, otherwise you're not doing anything.

dtrain 04-22-15 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by RoderWrench (Post 17742250)
I hope you check that the floor is level first, otherwise you're not doing anything.

...make that two glasses of water.

Wanderer 04-22-15 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by RoderWrench (Post 17742250)
I hope you check that the floor is level first, otherwise you're not doing anything.

I usually do it in the kitchen ---- and its so flat that Queen Isabella would be proud!

txags92 04-22-15 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by Wanderer (Post 17742261)
I usually do it in the kitchen ---- and its so flat that Queen Isabella would be proud!

Are we still talking about saddle tilt?

Voodoo76 04-22-15 05:46 PM

Yes

rebel1916 04-22-15 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by RR3 (Post 17742184)
What about the saddle tension screw....you know like on a real saddle. Sometimes loosen it will keep the "Boys" happy and keep you from sliding forward.

Many of us prefer not to ride saddles that weigh more than our frames in order to be "real".

Bandera 04-22-15 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by RoderWrench (Post 17742250)
I hope you check that the floor is level first, otherwise you're not doing anything.

,

Both are verified with a bubble level in my process, with the inevitable exception of the Brooks B-17 on my town bike which requires the traditional "just so" up-tilt at the nose.
And while you are at it set drop bar ends parallel, or nearly so to the verified level floor.

-Bandera

RR3 04-22-15 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by rebel1916 (Post 17742543)
Many of us prefer not to ride saddles that weigh more than our frames in order to be "real".

Where do I get that sub 380 gram frame?

rebel1916 04-22-15 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by RR3 (Post 17742598)
Where do I get that sub 380 gram frame?

It's made of unobtainium!


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