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How to lock up a nice Road Bike in front of work....

Old 05-14-15, 08:42 PM
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How to lock up a nice Road Bike in front of work....

Full title of the post: "How to lock up a nice Road Bike in front of work... Yes, I want to, Yes, I've researched locks and know that power tools can get through any lock, Yes, I'll accept the risks but want to do my due diligence, any advice is appreciated"

Posted under Road Cycling because I figure locking up a high end road bike has its own set of considerations.

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hi all,

This is my first post, and my question / situation will sound weird to some, so go easy on me.

I am a bicycle commuter - I do it for fitness and love of biking, not to save money or for the environment etc. I average 10 miles a day, 7 days a week.

I've been riding a Specialized Sirrus flat bar hybrid, and have transitioned to two bikes that I just purchased : a custom folding Bike Friday Tikit spec'd out with Shimano 105 for most days, and I carry that bike inside to my office; and for the occasional day when I feel adventurous and want to sprint to work for fun, I bought my first road bike: a 2015 Supersix Evo Hi-Mod Dura Ace 2.

(Okay I know, not the typical entry level road bike, especially for someone who uses it as transportation for rides shorter than 5 miles at a time. My last commuter vehicle was a C6 Z06 corvette, that was not necessary either for my short commute.)

When I do ride the Evo to work, it will be locked up in front of a busy building, about 50 feet away from a security guard station in the lobby. This also is in the safest city of its size in the U.S. for 8 years running. If some guy hops out of a van with 42" bolt cutters or is hunched over the bike rack with the sound of an angle grinder coming through whatever insulating material he's using to muffle it and catch the sparks, the security guys will likely notice in less than 2 minutes, certainly less than 5 minutes. One of the security guys is friend and a roadie.

[To address the obvious : No, I can't bring the bike in the building; No, I don't want to ride some beater bicycle to work, the whole point is to enjoy the sweet ride and I'll accept the risk of theft until it's stolen once, then I'll reassess]

So the question is, what's the best way to lock up my road bike in this scenario?

Here's what I'm planning so far:
- 16mm Pragmasis Protector chain with Abus 37/80 padlock around the bike frame, chain suspended above the ground.
AND
- Kryptonite New York standard U-lock through frame and rear wheel. (a second lock through the frame)
AND
- Kryptonite New York Fuhggedabout it mini U-lock between front wheel (Shimano RS81 C24s for now) and the frame.

The 16mm Protector chain can't be cropped with bolt cutters, and requires the angle grinder, I figure two cuts through one link will require at least 2 minutes per cut, 4 minutes total. I can't find anything on the internet indicating anything otherwise. I expect that specific U-lock to buy me another 30 seconds to 1 minute, based on the stuff I've read on the internet. So perhaps total of 4 minutes grinding time, assuming one thief ? (If they come with a team of five, three grinding, one to distract security, and another driving the getaway van, then I'm hosed.)

In an area within view of the security guards, and people walking back and forth, I'm hoping an estimate of 4 minutes grinding time is a sufficient deterrent for a $5K bike.

Thoughts? Thank you for your time and consideration.

(If you must ridicule, just don't say that I should have gotten the Squire SS65CS or Abloy PL362 padlock, or the 19mm chain instead of the 16mm...that boat has sailed, the chain and padlock have already shipped)

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Old 05-14-15, 08:49 PM
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i wouldnt do that. my friends crap canadian tire bike got stolen in front of a government building, i saw the tape, its disgusting. this happened in Canada lol. i honestly wouldnt leave my own bike outside anywhere in the city no matter how safe it seems to be, just not worth it.

this applies to high end bikes, they are just too hot of a target.
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Old 05-14-15, 08:55 PM
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My son has a very expensive road bit and a fairly expensive tri bike, cyclocross bike and mountain bike. I needed to commute to a temp teaching job that was 7 miles as the crow flies or 45 minutes by public transportation. He used a bike he pulled out of the trash and carried a cable lock. No one ever bothered it sine it was a POS.

10 miles is easy, even on a crappy bike.

Save the good bikes for pleasure riding.
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Old 05-14-15, 09:38 PM
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Do what you want but expect your expensive bike to be gone in less than a week. Takes about five seconds to cut a cable lock and about 30-60 seconds to cut a u lock with grinder. I wouldn't count on security to babysit your bike
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Eons ago, when I lived and worked in Manhattan, need a good solid way to lock my bike outside. U-locks didn't exist yet, so I purchased a length of anchor chain and a big padlock. The 8# rig was too much to carry, and if I did, defeated the purpose of riding a decent light top end road bike. So, I left my chain locked permanently to a convenient lamp post where I'd be locking the bike, and simply carried a 1oz. key.

Later, friends started doing the same, and we got together and purchased keyed alike locks giving each of us the use of a growing number of chains and locks spread around lower Manhattan.

So, that's my suggestion, get yourself the best lock system you can find and find a place for it near work, or maybe convince the security staff to let you stash it in the guardhouse. (the lock, not the bike, though why not the bike?)
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The commuting thread is probably best. They are well versed in locking up bikes and being creative.

Is there a parking garage for employees? A parking lot?

You've really explored every option by talking to people?

Scour your building from bottom up and find corners, out of way alcoves, under stairs, anywhere. Then go to the people that be and explain with theft statistics the need for a space. Don't government offices get a kickback for cycle commuters?

The three most important people in any building are:
1. Custodians
2. Maintenance people
3. Security

Talk to them and work something out, doughnuts every other week, case of beer every month. They will find you a space.

What city?
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Thanks for the comments, everyone. It's a good idea to talk to custodians/maintenance/security about making an exception of bringing the bike into the building, I'll consider that. Security has not been helpful thus far.

I'll take the advice to post my message on the commuter forum.
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ride fairly fast and then pull firmly on brake levers simultaneously.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
Eons ago, when I lived and worked in Manhattan, need a good solid way to lock my bike outside. U-locks didn't exist yet, so I purchased a length of anchor chain and a big padlock. The 8# rig was too much to carry, and if I did, defeated the purpose of riding a decent light top end road bike. So, I left my chain locked permanently to a convenient lamp post where I'd be locking the bike, and simply carried a 1oz. key.

Later, friends started doing the same, and we got together and purchased keyed alike locks giving each of us the use of a growing number of chains and locks spread around lower Manhattan.
It sounds like you've got a lot of fun stories to tell.

I agree though, that seems to be one of the best ideas. Buy a really heavy chain then leave it chained to where it's going to be every day. If you show up in the morning at leave around 5, no one will ever be around to remove the "unwanted" chain because everyone would have gone home for the day.
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Old 05-14-15, 10:50 PM
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People like you keep the thieves employed. Lol
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The other reason I wouldn't want to lock up my really nice bike is simple wear and tear on the frame from chain and locks and people bumping into it
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Sorry, this is just a terrible idea. Your bike WILL be stolen (by thieves) or at least seriously damaged (by ******** or drunks) that kick things for fun.
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Old 05-14-15, 11:51 PM
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Some hex keys and metal shears can liberate your pedals, derailleur, seatpost, saddle and maybe a few other goodies from your bicycle without having to cut the chains and locks.
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Insurance.

Or - do you have a parking space at your building? Buy a panel van - remove an essential ignition bit and leave it in your parking spot as a bike locker.

Re-install ignition bit and take it for a drive regularly enough to prove it is not abandoned.


Or ... got a buddy at work who drives a minivan or SUV with ehough space to stash your bike? Offer to help with his parking costs in return for using van/SUV as bike locker.

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Old 05-15-15, 12:07 AM
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A thief can easily steal your shifters and headstem + handlebars in max 5 mins. Add the carbon fork if you didn't lock properly your bike (slight play between the frame from the wheel). Just the shifters are such a pain in the bum to replace... too much trouble for little. Invest in a crappy bike. You can modify it just enough to make it barely enjoyable to ride.
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Hal knows bike locks.
It isn't if to lock a bike, but how.

To me, it ridiculous to commute on a high end bike unless its locked inside.
Buy a cheap bike you can put a rear rack on and carry a couple of D locks...have to lock everything including front and rear wheels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR8jdnsP4Tc

Shocking? Who wants to take a chance with confronting a bike thief? Not many.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AdugFzCi24
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Yeah, I'd just make sure the bike was on my insurance plan and not worry about it. Leave a chain or a couple of Us on the work rack or whatever... seriously, so long as it was reasonably secured, I would not worry much at all. A nice bike, well-secured in a low risk area in a nice town, is not the kind of scenario to sweat.
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Like already pointed out, your components are going to get stripped. Too nice a group set to leave laying around.
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I'd just get a throwaway commuter bike. Unless you can get your insurance company to cover your bike. I know the bike specific insurance is no bargain.
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Outside the box

Find a battery operated camera, preferably something covert (obviously), with a speaker and mic. Attach to bike in such a way as to see the locks and install app to smartphone to watch it. You won't get much work done, but at least you can holler at people when they come to steal it a few times a day.

Even better.....get an extension cord and cut off the end. After you park and lock up, attach the hot wire to the bike, lay the neutral on the ground and go plug in. Set your water bottle upside down and open so it will drip. When someone steps in the puddle AND touches your bike or locks the problem takes care of itself....
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In a city near where I live, there has been a disturbing trend affecting well secured bikes. Thwarted thieves become vandals and destroy anything they cannot take. Seats slashed, tires punctured, cables cut, frames and forks bent or broken using the U-lock as a fulcrum for leverage, etc. It's amazing the damage that can be done in a few seconds.
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I agree with the posts that say theft or not, your bike will get beaten up being used as a commuter and parked outside. You have bought one of the nicest bikes available anywhere, and you want to leave it unattended parked outdoors. It is just plain stupid. I won't even ride my nicest bikes in the rain much less leave them sit out in it. Back to square one.
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Yeah, I'd just make sure the bike was on my insurance plan and not worry about it.
You don't worry about $500 or $1000 deductibles and higher rates from making insurance claims?
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...or at least seriously damaged (by ******** or drunks) that kick things for fun.
This. Happened to me several times with crappy bikes. At least I've got the friction shifting option to limp home.

Plus you've got to carry the locks everywhere.
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Plus you've got to carry the locks everywhere.
Looking at the bright side, around the holidays everyone will think he is pulling off some Ghost of Christmas Past meme....
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