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Old 05-14-15, 08:59 PM
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Hawaii cycling

I'm looking for opinions from those who have cycled Hawaii and especially those who live there and cycle. I am an Oklahoman but multiple time visitor to the Islands and have cycled fairly extensively on Maui and Hawaii. I read today that Hawaii came in I think it was 45th in rankings as being a cycling friendly state. On other forums(trip advisor) I have encountered some significant hostility from locals about cycling in the islands, with quite a bit of a "you shouldn't be on that road" mentality. I have never encountered any overt hostility from drivers, however today I was cycling from Mauna Lani up to Hawi and had a flat, and during the time I was fixing it 100 cars must have passed. No offers for help or asking if I was OK( i was and didn't need help). In oklahoma out of 100 cars 10 would have asked. Any thoughts? Seems a shame in a place with such great weather for cycling to be looked at negatively.
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Lived there for years and I'm moving back in October. I know it is messed up but if you are a ***** by chance, then everything is always harder. I'm black and I speak pidgin so I can usually get a pass when I'm in the middle of nowhere on Hawaii or the more 'local' pockets of other islands, but just BARELY.

Itll never change. You have better luck on Oahu. People give you a ride all day long there. I had 100 cars stop and ask if I was okay once, and I was just retracing my steps after dropping my drivers license on a ride.
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Old 05-14-15, 10:19 PM
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Haha, the Hawaiian word for white guy is blocked out. This forum has everything covered.
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I cycle every day on Oahu. For a while I was a very angry person and let people know when they were being dangerous or stupid, which is often. Nowadays I've completely mellowed out to Zen like levels, but coupled with that extremely defensive riding, I always assume drivers are not looking and I check over my shoulder waaaay more than other cyclist. To date, a friend of mine who also commutes has been hit by a car (at low speed, the typical intersection danger zones) twice in a 6 month period. I have never been hit, but had many close calls in the past 2.5 years.

However, most normal drivers in town (Waikiki and Honolulu) are fairly innocuous attitude wise. It's the public bus and taxi drivers that are completely out of line. It's not specific to cyclists either, they cut of other motorists haphazardly as well.

It is worth noting that our asphalt quality is complete crap.
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I was stationed at Schofield for three years and lived on the North Shore. The only safe road cycling was on base itself. I was pretty much riding the mountain bike all the time. I miss going up to Peacock Flats (and down).
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My experience as a cyclist is I wasn't there or like invisible. No body noticed me or cared. It wasn't as if they were angry or anything; I was ignored on the roads.

I can see how no one stopped to help when you flatted.
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It is what it is. The climate's great! Otherwise . . .
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Originally Posted by oujeep1 View Post
I have never encountered any overt hostility from drivers, however today I was cycling from Mauna Lani up to Hawi and had a flat, and during the time I was fixing it 100 cars must have passed. No offers for help or asking if I was OK( i was and didn't need help). In oklahoma out of 100 cars 10 would have asked. Any thoughts? Seems a shame in a place with such great weather for cycling to be looked at negatively.
In Minnesota, I would be shocked if one car stopped to offer help while working on my bike. Hell, I'm lucky to get 10% of bikers to offer help.

I've been to the North Shore of Oahu a couple times, I have not, but would be happy to ride those roads (my wife would not be happy riding those roads).
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I've ridden part of the south shore and a good portion of the eastern shore of oahu.

I've also done a little on Kauai.

i felt safer on Kauai than I did on Oahu, but not less safe on Oahu than I do in NYC, Boston or DC.

as always... buses and Taxis are your largest danger.
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Lots of traffic and not the best drivers there. I'd go on weekends early maybe. There aren't many islands like that which are great places to bike. The howely thing is very true. Lots of racism alive and well on the islands.
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North Shore on Oahu.
That's Waimea, I passed that every day to and from work. Broke a rib on the shore break the first time I went out to surf haha. The Foodland grocery store up the road is the best in the world. Filled with girls in thongs That road shoulder is super dangerous for cycling, though.
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That's Waimea, I passed that every day to and from work. Broke a rib on the shore break the first time I went out to surf haha. The Foodland grocery store up the road is the best in the world. Filled with girls in thongs That road shoulder is super dangerous for cycling, though.
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Lots of traffic and not the best drivers there. I'd go on weekends early maybe. There aren't many islands like that which are great places to bike. The howely thing is very true. Lots of racism alive and well on the islands.
True. But even with the traffic and lack of wide shoulders, if you're an urban rider, like I am, it's just not an issue.
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Across the street from there is a state park with mountain bike trails. Jurassic Park was filmed in that valley. Me there in the '95 Hawaii State MTB championships (3rd place).

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Across the street from there is a state park with mountain bike trails. Jurassic Park was filmed in that valley. Me there in the '95 Hawaii State MTB championships (3rd place).

Nice! I really like that area. My mother in law lives in Kailua, so I've probably pedaled Kailua to Waimea 50 times. I used to pedal the opposite direction, Kailua to Wikiki, but after you pass diamondhead, the quality of that ride is much less enjoyable.
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I was stationed at Schofield for three years and lived on the North Shore. The only safe road cycling was on base itself. I was pretty much riding the mountain bike all the time. I miss going up to Peacock Flats (and down).
I've been up Peacock Flats many times. I lived on the North Shore, across Kam Hwy from Velzyland, for almost 6 years and loved riding the North Shore and windward regions.
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I've been up Peacock Flats many times. I lived on the North Shore, across Kam Hwy from Velzyland, for almost 6 years and loved riding the North Shore and windward regions.
My buddy and I rented a house on the beach right next to Ehukai Beach Park, across the highway from Sunset Beach Elementary. Gas Chambers was in front of our back deck. A girl from Cali owned it, her rich dad gave it to her. She was a drug addict and wanted to rent it to GI's because she thought they were more reliable with the rent. The very first weekend we lived there we sat on the deck and watched two topless girls sunbathing. One got up and walked up to us baring it all and asked to use our outdoor shower haha. I almost left the military and stayed there, all I cared about was surfing. Can't even describe how much I miss it.
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My buddy and I rented a house on the beach right next to Ehukai Beach Park, across the highway from Sunset Beach Elementary. Gas Chambers was in front of our back deck. A girl from Cali owned it, her rich dad gave it to her. She was a drug addict and wanted to rent it to GI's because she thought they were more reliable with the rent. The very first weekend we lived there we sat on the deck and watched two topless girls sunbathing. One got up and walked up to us baring it all and asked to use our outdoor shower haha. I almost left the military and stayed there, all I cared about was surfing. Can't even describe how much I miss it.
I'm with you on that. I left there in 97 and still think about it almost every day.
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