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[Need Help] Best bikesdirect bikes
Hello i'm trying to show my friends and family some good road bike options on bikes direct (they all have different price ranges) so I want your opinion on the best road bike (best components, frames, shape... for the price) in these price ranges. this what I have so far
[$250-$450]
Save up to 60% off new Road Bikes - Gravity Avenue A | Save up to 60% off new road bikes
Save Up to 60% Off Carbon Fork Shimano Road Bikes - Motobecane Mirage S
Save up to 60% off new Road Bikes - Gravity Avenue C | Save up to 60% off new road bikes
Save up to 60% off new Road Bikes - Gravity Liberty 2 | Save up to 60% off new road bikes
[$450-$700]
Save Up to 60% Off Road Bikes - DawesLightning1200
Save Up to 60% Off Shimano Claris Carbon Fork Road Bikes - Windsor Wellington SL Web Sale Prices
Save Up to 60% Off Road Bikes - Motobecane Mirage SLX Carbon Fork Shimano Road Bikes
Save Up to 60% Off Road Bikes, Roadbikes - 2015 Mercier Galaxy AL
[$700-$900]
Save up to 60% off new Shimano 105 Road Bikes - Gravity COMP22 | Save up to 60% off new road bikes
Save Up to 60% Off Road Bikes - DawesLightning1200
Save up to 60% off new Road Bikes - Motobecane Vent Noir
Free Shipping* Save up to 60% off new Cyclocross Road Bikes - Motobecane Fantom CX Clearance
[$900-$1000]
Save Up to 60% Off Motobecane Cyclocross Bikes - Fantom Cross Outlaw
Save up to 60% of new Shimano Ultegra 6800 22 Speed Road Bikes | Motobecane Super Strada Road Bikes Sale | Save up to 60% off your next new Road Bike
Save up to 60% off new Shimano Ultegra Road Bikes - Gravity PRO22 | Save up to 60% off new road bikes
[$1000-$1300]
Save Up To 60% Off Shimano 22 Speed Aero Carbon Road Bikes- Motobecane Le Champion CF Comp
Save Up To 60% Off Shimano Carbon Road Bikes- Motobecane Sprint CF Carbon
[$1300+]
Save Up to 60% Off Shimano 22 Speed 105 equipped Carbon Road Bikes - NEW Kestrel Evoke Road Bicycles with Shimano 105 group | Save up to 60% off List prices
Save Up to 60% Off 22 Speed Shimano Carbon Road Bikes, Roadbikes - 2015 Motobecane Immortal Pro
Save Up To 60% Off Shimano Ultegra Full Carbon Road Bikes- Motobecane Sprint CF PRO
Save Up to 60% Off Cyclocross Bicycles | Road Bikes - Motobecane Fantom Cross Team Aluminum | Cross Bikes
Save Up to 60% Off Kestrel Legend Shimano 105 Bike Get FREE SHIP 48
Save Up To 60% Off Ultegra 11 Speed Road Bikes- Motobecane Le Champion CF Aero Carbon Road Bikes
Save Up to 60% Off Shimano 22 Speed Ultegra equipped Carbon Road Bikes - NEW Kestrel Evoke Road Bicycles with Shimano Ultegra group | Save up to 60% off List prices
Save Up To 60% Off Titanium Road Bikes and Bicycles from bikesdirect.com
Save Up To 60% Off Ultegra 22 Speed Road Bikes- Motobecane Le Champion CF LTD Aero Carbon Road Bikes
Save Up To 60% Off Shimano Ultegra 6800 11 Speed Road Bikes- Motobecane Sprintour
Save Up To 60% Off Shimano Ultegra Road Bikes | Titanium Road Bikes | Roadbikes - Motobecane Le Champion SL Ti
Buy ONE 2014 Kestrel RT1000 Ultegra Bike Get FREE Shipping 48
P.S. I will most likely end up using this as a guide alot for me, my family, friends...
[$250-$450]
Save up to 60% off new Road Bikes - Gravity Avenue A | Save up to 60% off new road bikes
Save Up to 60% Off Carbon Fork Shimano Road Bikes - Motobecane Mirage S
Save up to 60% off new Road Bikes - Gravity Avenue C | Save up to 60% off new road bikes
Save up to 60% off new Road Bikes - Gravity Liberty 2 | Save up to 60% off new road bikes
[$450-$700]
Save Up to 60% Off Road Bikes - DawesLightning1200
Save Up to 60% Off Shimano Claris Carbon Fork Road Bikes - Windsor Wellington SL Web Sale Prices
Save Up to 60% Off Road Bikes - Motobecane Mirage SLX Carbon Fork Shimano Road Bikes
Save Up to 60% Off Road Bikes, Roadbikes - 2015 Mercier Galaxy AL
[$700-$900]
Save up to 60% off new Shimano 105 Road Bikes - Gravity COMP22 | Save up to 60% off new road bikes
Save Up to 60% Off Road Bikes - DawesLightning1200
Save up to 60% off new Road Bikes - Motobecane Vent Noir
Free Shipping* Save up to 60% off new Cyclocross Road Bikes - Motobecane Fantom CX Clearance
[$900-$1000]
Save Up to 60% Off Motobecane Cyclocross Bikes - Fantom Cross Outlaw
Save up to 60% of new Shimano Ultegra 6800 22 Speed Road Bikes | Motobecane Super Strada Road Bikes Sale | Save up to 60% off your next new Road Bike
Save up to 60% off new Shimano Ultegra Road Bikes - Gravity PRO22 | Save up to 60% off new road bikes
[$1000-$1300]
Save Up To 60% Off Shimano 22 Speed Aero Carbon Road Bikes- Motobecane Le Champion CF Comp
Save Up To 60% Off Shimano Carbon Road Bikes- Motobecane Sprint CF Carbon
[$1300+]
Save Up to 60% Off Shimano 22 Speed 105 equipped Carbon Road Bikes - NEW Kestrel Evoke Road Bicycles with Shimano 105 group | Save up to 60% off List prices
Save Up to 60% Off 22 Speed Shimano Carbon Road Bikes, Roadbikes - 2015 Motobecane Immortal Pro
Save Up To 60% Off Shimano Ultegra Full Carbon Road Bikes- Motobecane Sprint CF PRO
Save Up to 60% Off Cyclocross Bicycles | Road Bikes - Motobecane Fantom Cross Team Aluminum | Cross Bikes
Save Up to 60% Off Kestrel Legend Shimano 105 Bike Get FREE SHIP 48
Save Up To 60% Off Ultegra 11 Speed Road Bikes- Motobecane Le Champion CF Aero Carbon Road Bikes
Save Up to 60% Off Shimano 22 Speed Ultegra equipped Carbon Road Bikes - NEW Kestrel Evoke Road Bicycles with Shimano Ultegra group | Save up to 60% off List prices
Save Up To 60% Off Titanium Road Bikes and Bicycles from bikesdirect.com
Save Up To 60% Off Ultegra 22 Speed Road Bikes- Motobecane Le Champion CF LTD Aero Carbon Road Bikes
Save Up To 60% Off Shimano Ultegra 6800 11 Speed Road Bikes- Motobecane Sprintour
Save Up To 60% Off Shimano Ultegra Road Bikes | Titanium Road Bikes | Roadbikes - Motobecane Le Champion SL Ti
Buy ONE 2014 Kestrel RT1000 Ultegra Bike Get FREE Shipping 48
P.S. I will most likely end up using this as a guide alot for me, my family, friends...
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You might have a problem finding stem shifters on bikes over $1k.
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How do we rank "best" and "worst" BD bikes? They're basically all the same: Generic Kinesis frames, with decals from old dead brands, and raising levels of components depending on how much you pay. My guess would be a $1300 BD is better than a $250 one. Ranking bikes available at each price bracket? Who exactly has the broad knowledge of all BD bikes that would allow them to do that?
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How do you know that they are going to be comfortable without a test ride. If you don't know enough to know which bikes are good, I doubt if you're going to be able to decide for them which bike is the best fit for them (if you can actually get a fit for them at all). And will you be able to put the bikes together and do the maintenance for them?
Take them to a LBS (or 2 or 3) to test ride some bikes. If you're really worried about price, if you can find a Peformance Bike near you, they have very competitive prices. By the time you or they pay a LBS to put the bikes together and do maintenance, you've probably eaten up all the savings from BD.
BD is really only a great option for people that already know how to do maintenance and have a bike with a good fit, and know the measurement, so they can transfer them to a BD bike.
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Take them to a LBS (or 2 or 3) to test ride some bikes. If you're really worried about price, if you can find a Peformance Bike near you, they have very competitive prices. By the time you or they pay a LBS to put the bikes together and do maintenance, you've probably eaten up all the savings from BD.
BD is really only a great option for people that already know how to do maintenance and have a bike with a good fit, and know the measurement, so they can transfer them to a BD bike.
GH
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Which ever one is orange is the best bike.
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How do we rank "best" and "worst" BD bikes? They're basically all the same: Generic Kinesis frames, with decals from old dead brands, and raising levels of components depending on how much you pay. My guess would be a $1300 BD is better than a $250 one. Ranking bikes available at each price bracket? Who exactly has the broad knowledge of all BD bikes that would allow them to do that?
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Higher price = Better components.
Given that BD is a level playing field, i.e. you're not paying a premium for boutique branding, if you narrow down to the type of bike you want, you can pretty much guarantee that a higher cost bike is going to be better equipped.
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How do you know that they are going to be comfortable without a test ride. If you don't know enough to know which bikes are good, I doubt if you're going to be able to decide for them which bike is the best fit for them (if you can actually get a fit for them at all). And will you be able to put the bikes together and do the maintenance for them?
Take them to a LBS (or 2 or 3) to test ride some bikes. If you're really worried about price, if you can find a Peformance Bike near you, they have very competitive prices. By the time you or they pay a LBS to put the bikes together and do maintenance, you've probably eaten up all the savings from BD.
BD is really only a great option for people that already know how to do maintenance and have a bike with a good fit, and know the measurement, so they can transfer them to a BD bike.
GH
Take them to a LBS (or 2 or 3) to test ride some bikes. If you're really worried about price, if you can find a Peformance Bike near you, they have very competitive prices. By the time you or they pay a LBS to put the bikes together and do maintenance, you've probably eaten up all the savings from BD.
BD is really only a great option for people that already know how to do maintenance and have a bike with a good fit, and know the measurement, so they can transfer them to a BD bike.
GH
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Here's a good way of ranking:
Higher price = Better components.
Given that BD is a level playing field, i.e. you're not paying a premium for boutique branding, if you narrow down to the type of bike you want, you can pretty much guarantee that a higher cost bike is going to be better equipped.
Higher price = Better components.
Given that BD is a level playing field, i.e. you're not paying a premium for boutique branding, if you narrow down to the type of bike you want, you can pretty much guarantee that a higher cost bike is going to be better equipped.
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Haters gonna hate, but I think this is a pretty rad deal in the sub-$900 category-
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Nice looking steel frame, 11 speed 105 (of course, not a complete group, the brakes and crank are probably sub-par), ect. I wouldn't kick it out of my garage. Don't let the naysayers on here deter you from buying a bike on there. The prices are very low on the face of it (Carbon! Ultegra! $1400!!), but you just have to know what you're getting yourself into and be absolutely sure about the frame size.
Edited to add: There's probably no way to test any of these back to back unless you know someone with a few of their models, so your best bet with picking one versus another in a given price bracket is which one looks the best to you and hoping for the best. If you make an educated choice about groupset in advance you can be quite happy, my brother dropped $650 on a Motobecane Vent Noir and 5 years later it's going strong and he loves it, but it's definitely a heavier bike and limited a little by Tiagra shifters which I personally don't care for, but some people like them a lot so YMMV.
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Nice looking steel frame, 11 speed 105 (of course, not a complete group, the brakes and crank are probably sub-par), ect. I wouldn't kick it out of my garage. Don't let the naysayers on here deter you from buying a bike on there. The prices are very low on the face of it (Carbon! Ultegra! $1400!!), but you just have to know what you're getting yourself into and be absolutely sure about the frame size.
Edited to add: There's probably no way to test any of these back to back unless you know someone with a few of their models, so your best bet with picking one versus another in a given price bracket is which one looks the best to you and hoping for the best. If you make an educated choice about groupset in advance you can be quite happy, my brother dropped $650 on a Motobecane Vent Noir and 5 years later it's going strong and he loves it, but it's definitely a heavier bike and limited a little by Tiagra shifters which I personally don't care for, but some people like them a lot so YMMV.
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Haters gonna hate, but I think this is a pretty rad deal in the sub-$900 category-
Save Up To 60% Off Pro Level Steel Road Bikes | Commuting | Commuter Bikes | Motobecane Gran Premio PRO
Nice looking steel frame, 11 speed 105 (of course, not a complete group, the brakes and crank are probably sub-par), ect. I wouldn't kick it out of my garage. Don't let the naysayers on here deter you from buying a bike on there. The prices are very low on the face of it (Carbon! Ultegra! $1400!!), but you just have to know what you're getting yourself into and be absolutely sure about the frame size.
Save Up To 60% Off Pro Level Steel Road Bikes | Commuting | Commuter Bikes | Motobecane Gran Premio PRO
Nice looking steel frame, 11 speed 105 (of course, not a complete group, the brakes and crank are probably sub-par), ect. I wouldn't kick it out of my garage. Don't let the naysayers on here deter you from buying a bike on there. The prices are very low on the face of it (Carbon! Ultegra! $1400!!), but you just have to know what you're getting yourself into and be absolutely sure about the frame size.
Of course, if you're a beginner you're much better buying a bike that you can actually test ride first. Some states have BD stores, that allow you to do that. For most buying online is going to be a lottery.
EDIT: BTW if you look at the dropouts and seatpost detail on that bike's frame, you can see that it's essentially the same frame as the Jamis Quest Elite, except with lower quality tubing (and the geo's probably different). Not surprising I guess as they're likely both frames made by Kinesis.
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Do the research yourself, most of the BD bikes have Shimano components. There, I did some of your work for you. That one page will help tell you which Shimano groups are better.
What size are you going to order for your relatives? Do you know how to measure them, and compare those measurements to the geometries of the bike to get a close fit? Do you know the difference between race and endurance geometries?
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I really think you are asking a lot of posters here - you could mostly do this research yourself. Even if I wanted too, the results might vary if I valued certain things more than others would. For example, is full carbon more important than Ultegra shifters? Is comfort or speed/aero positioning more important?
For components:
Tourney - Claris - Sora - Tiagra - 105- Ultegra - Dura Ace
and/or
Apex - Rival - Force - Red
For components:
Tourney - Claris - Sora - Tiagra - 105- Ultegra - Dura Ace
and/or
Apex - Rival - Force - Red
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I really think you are asking a lot of posters here - you could mostly do this research yourself. Even if I wanted too, the results might vary if I valued certain things more than others would. For example, is full carbon more important than Ultegra shifters? Is comfort or speed/aero positioning more important?
For components:
Tourney - Claris - Sora - Tiagra - 105- Ultegra - Dura Ace
and/or
Apex - Rival - Force - Red
For components:
Tourney - Claris - Sora - Tiagra - 105- Ultegra - Dura Ace
and/or
Apex - Rival - Force - Red
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1. But yes, with the amount of bikes on BD with redundancy, overlap and personal preference one person's list of best bike at all of those price points will vary from another's.
2. That is a lot of leg work for someone to come on a forum and ask complete strangers to do for them
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If you don't know which components are better, by doing a little internet research, I don't have much confidence in how well you can maintain the bikes, even if you love fixing things and have all the tools.
Do the research yourself, most of the BD bikes have Shimano components. There, I did some of your work for you. That one page will help tell you which Shimano groups are better.
What size are you going to order for your relatives? Do you know how to measure them, and compare those measurements to the geometries of the bike to get a close fit? Do you know the difference between race and endurance geometries?
GH
Do the research yourself, most of the BD bikes have Shimano components. There, I did some of your work for you. That one page will help tell you which Shimano groups are better.
What size are you going to order for your relatives? Do you know how to measure them, and compare those measurements to the geometries of the bike to get a close fit? Do you know the difference between race and endurance geometries?
GH
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Haters gonna hate, but I think this is a pretty rad deal in the sub-$900 category-
Save Up To 60% Off Pro Level Steel Road Bikes | Commuting | Commuter Bikes | Motobecane Gran Premio PRO
Nice looking steel frame, 11 speed 105 (of course, not a complete group, the brakes and crank are probably sub-par), ect. I wouldn't kick it out of my garage. Don't let the naysayers on here deter you from buying a bike on there. The prices are very low on the face of it (Carbon! Ultegra! $1400!!), but you just have to know what you're getting yourself into and be absolutely sure about the frame size.
Edited to add: There's probably no way to test any of these back to back unless you know someone with a few of their models, so your best bet with picking one versus another in a given price bracket is which one looks the best to you and hoping for the best. If you make an educated choice about groupset in advance you can be quite happy, my brother dropped $650 on a Motobecane Vent Noir and 5 years later it's going strong and he loves it, but it's definitely a heavier bike and limited a little by Tiagra shifters which I personally don't care for, but some people like them a lot so YMMV.
Save Up To 60% Off Pro Level Steel Road Bikes | Commuting | Commuter Bikes | Motobecane Gran Premio PRO
Nice looking steel frame, 11 speed 105 (of course, not a complete group, the brakes and crank are probably sub-par), ect. I wouldn't kick it out of my garage. Don't let the naysayers on here deter you from buying a bike on there. The prices are very low on the face of it (Carbon! Ultegra! $1400!!), but you just have to know what you're getting yourself into and be absolutely sure about the frame size.
Edited to add: There's probably no way to test any of these back to back unless you know someone with a few of their models, so your best bet with picking one versus another in a given price bracket is which one looks the best to you and hoping for the best. If you make an educated choice about groupset in advance you can be quite happy, my brother dropped $650 on a Motobecane Vent Noir and 5 years later it's going strong and he loves it, but it's definitely a heavier bike and limited a little by Tiagra shifters which I personally don't care for, but some people like them a lot so YMMV.
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bikesdirect switched completely to shimano (anything otherwise I'm pretty sure is just leftover) and originally thats what I was solely basing my options on. Yes I do know how to measure it it's generally measured from the center of the pedal to base of the seat post unless stated otherwise and yes I do endurance geometry tends to have the handlebars higher.