New cranks... Ultegra or 105
I'm considering my next upgrade. right now I have Shimano R565 50/34 cranks paired to a 105 11/25 cassette. I'm going to go either 105 or Ultegra 11/23 cassette and want to swap out the cranks for a standard 54/39 but not sure if I should go Ultegra or 105. I only ride the flats here in south Florida, I don't race, maybe once a year I travel to Virginia to ride mountains so weight isn't an issue. I have Ultegra RD & FD so other than keeping the groupset the same is there any real reason to go Ultegra over the 105? What would you do?
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Color? 105 is black and Ultegra is more greyish. I don't think the weight is really different. (I think I read less than 200g different between the two entire groupsets, and most of that is in the shift levers, carbon vs aluminum)
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I would go with the same group so it's all matchy-matchy.
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Originally Posted by RPK79
(Post 17838804)
I would go with the same group so it's all matchy-matchy.
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I assume we're talking about 11 speed Ultegra vs 105 here?
The 105 crank is slightly heavier, and is constructed slightly differently than the ultegra. On the 105 the big ring is one solid piece, whereas the Ultegra is 2 pieces stuck together with a hollow inside. The 105 big ring gets over the increased weight of being a one piece by having cut outs on the inner edge, as seen in this picture: http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=453665 For $80 less (on Merlin), I'd go with the 105 crankset. |
Originally Posted by floridamtb
(Post 17838825)
I wouldn't want to upset the velominati by having an unmatched groupset
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I'd vote Ultegra. There's a pretty significant difference in the crank weight, and the cost isn't that much.
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why change it at all? If all you ride is flat terrain then you should just be on the 50T ring all the time. Going to a 53 is not going to make any difference, and 50x11 is good up to 35mph, which if you can hold for any significant period of time on a flat, you should probably consider going pro.
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The R565 crankset is 10 speed, so I will assume you are sticking with a 10 speed setup. Like already suggested you might want to look at other brands. There are some very good deals to be found on lightly used Sram Red and Rival 10 speed carbon cranksets. Nothing wrong with the Shimano stuff, but you might be able to get a carbon crankset for less.
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Originally Posted by redlude97
(Post 17838969)
why change it at all? If all you ride is flat terrain then you should just be on the 50T ring all the time. Going to a 53 is not going to make any difference, and 50x11 is good up to 35mph, which if you can hold for any significant period of time on a flat, you should probably consider going pro.
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Rumour has it that the UK mail order sites have Ultra 6700 cranks (10 speed, standard 53/39) on the super-cheap.
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Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 17839279)
Rumour has it that the UK mail order sites have Ultra 6700 cranks (10 speed, standard 53/39) on the super-cheap.
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Originally Posted by floridamtb
(Post 17839340)
I get 20% off from my LBS and I really do benefit greatly from my relationship with them. They've gone to bat for me with Trek over some things before, they've served me well, given me free stuff before, excellent customer service. I know I can probably save some online but I like supporting my LBS.
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I vote for neither. It was a 'maybe' at Ribble-type pricing, but not for what you'll pay at the LBS (even though I applaud your support).
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I vote to always match. Nothing annoys me more than mismatching components.
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Originally Posted by floridamtb
(Post 17838789)
I'm considering my next upgrade. right now I have Shimano R565 50/34 cranks paired to a 105 11/25 cassette. I'm going to go either 105 or Ultegra 11/23 cassette and want to swap out the cranks for a standard 54/39 but not sure if I should go Ultegra or 105. I only ride the flats here in south Florida, I don't race, maybe once a year I travel to Virginia to ride mountains so weight isn't an issue. I have Ultegra RD & FD so other than keeping the groupset the same is there any real reason to go Ultegra over the 105? What would you do?
You might save 5 or 10 grams, the equivalent of a piece of lint falling out of your pocket, or a drop of sweat rolling off your face. Doesn't seem to be worth the bother of buying a new crank, installing it, selling off the old one, or adding part to the spare parts bin taking up space serving no purpose. |
Originally Posted by Ayers
(Post 17839367)
Your loyalty is commendable. I just last week ordered a complete 105 5700 ten speed compact group set from Wiggle and saved about 400 dollars over buying it locally. I'm not that loyal when it gets to those kind of dollars.
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Originally Posted by sam_cyclist
(Post 17839402)
I wouldn't bother with the upgrade. It's not really an upgrade, since there will be no functional difference.
You might save 5 or 10 grams, the equivalent of a piece of lint falling out of your pocket, or a drop of sweat rolling off your face. Doesn't seem to be worth the bother of buying a new crank, installing it, selling off the old one, or adding part to the spare parts bin taking up space serving no purpose. |
the carpet must match the drapes.
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Originally Posted by floridamtb
(Post 17839404)
But I'm not talking a $400 difference, I'm maybe talking $25-$40 difference (then have the shipping costs, wait time etc), for that I'll buy local. If I was looking at an entire groupset then yeah I'd have to look at online sources.
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Originally Posted by Ayers
(Post 17839471)
Be sure and put pencil to paper to that. LBS here pay significantly more for Shimano components at shop wholesale price than ordering them from England costs me. Merlin, Chain Reaction, Wiggle, Ribble, etc don't charge shipping on orders over about 50 bucks. Wait time is three days to ten days depending on what carrier they select.
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Originally Posted by redlude97
(Post 17838969)
why change it at all? If all you ride is flat terrain then you should just be on the 50T ring all the time. Going to a 53 is not going to make any difference, and 50x11 is good up to 35mph, which if you can hold for any significant period of time on a flat, you should probably consider going pro.
Sometimes change is good, sometimes it's just a waste of money. |
Maybe Ultegra stickers/skins for the cranks?
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Originally Posted by dtrain
(Post 17839876)
Maybe Ultegra stickers/skins for the cranks?
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Originally Posted by redlude97
(Post 17838969)
why change it at all? If all you ride is flat terrain then you should just be on the 50T ring all the time. Going to a 53 is not going to make any difference, and 50x11 is good up to 35mph, which if you can hold for any significant period of time on a flat, you should probably consider going pro.
And I'm all for a mismatch grouppo, it kinda tells that you understand about your components selection and people would assume that you build it yourself instead of buying a full OEM bike |
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